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Raziel
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  RE: Main Page Content Revision
May 29, 2012 10:29:24 AM    View the profile of Raziel 
That banner is horrific.

Drop down menu's are a little 2003? Though I suppose they may be cleaner using html5.
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  RE: Main Page Content Revision
May 29, 2012 10:39:02 AM    View the profile of Raziel 
A few things that need considering.

The current meta tags:

star wars, star wars club, star wars clubs, star wars clan, star wars clans, fanfic, fan fic, clubs, clans, fan fic, star wars fanfic, star wars organizations, star wars forum, imperials, the empire, star wars imperials, star wars stories, Jedi Knight, JK, Jedi Outcast, JKII, JO, BF1942, Battlefield 1942, Freelancer, XWA, x-wing alliance, XWA, XvT, X-wing vs tie figher, Tie figher, AT-AT, AT-ST, Star Craft, SC, dark forces, DF, rebellion, role playing, role playing game, imperial role playing, RPG, Star wars role playing game, Star wars RPG, SWRPG, Mysteries of the Sith, MOTS, force commander, imperial, star destroyer, ISD, super star destroyer, SSD, battlefront, empire at war

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The Vast Empire is an unofficial online gaming organization based on the Imperial side of the Star Wars Universe created by George Lucas. We are a collection of individuals who play all of the Star Wars computer games made by the LucasArts Entertainment Company. We also do a large amount of online role playing simulations, multiplayer gaming, webpage creation, ICQ/IRC chatting, and Star Wars fiction writing as well.

Painfully out of date.


We should include a statement that we:

Welcome members of all writing abilities.
Are in the year 12aby and include a rough description of our current place in the galaxy/recent events.

I think we should have a direct link to Welcome topics for both the academy and navy . . . or get our arses in gear and do a joint topic that links to relevant wiki pages and guides.

I also think we should consider a revised application form, but that's another matter.
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  RE: Main Page Content Revision
May 29, 2012 11:45:29 AM    View the profile of Raziel 
Also let's consider that we're not in the 56k-tastic 90s any more.

Look at www.newgrounds.com

We could have a similar CSS layout where the main content is on a fixed width and sat on a mass, awesome background image that fills the rest of the page. (View the background on newgrounds to see the size of the image)

If we can create/use something similar it would be very easy to implement.
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  RE: Main Page Content Revision
May 29, 2012 11:54:49 AM    View the profile of Skarr 
Damn. That goes to show that I haven't been on newgrounds in forever. I didn't know they changed the layout. But I like it.
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  RE: Main Page Content Revision
May 29, 2012 12:15:23 AM    View the profile of Trykon 
If someone from the Army wants to work on a joint welcome splash page, I'm available.  Here's what the Navy's been using here on the ComNet: http://comnet.imperialnetwork.com/topic/14995/.

EDIT: Also, does everyone remember Kami's eloquent post, The VE: Not Just a Hobby?  Kami, what would you say to allowing some version of that to show up on the new main page? 
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  RE: Main Page Content Revision
May 30, 2012 12:39:59 AM    View the profile of Raziel 
Let's snazz it up a bit.

Take the basic premise of this one:

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v72/Riznak/?action=view¤t=VEhome.jpg

Have the background fade out to the edges and bottom. The whole page can be a fixed width css design so users only see the amount of background that can fit on their screen.

(It'll also look like it's not from the 90's)
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  RE: Main Page Content Revision
May 30, 2012 1:51:14 PM    View the profile of Raziel 
First I need a few background images wre can use.
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  RE: Main Page Content Revision
May 30, 2012 2:12:36 PM    View the profile of Trykon 
Been lookin... it's tough, finding one we can use without legal entanglements.
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  RE: Main Page Content Revision
May 30, 2012 7:20:02 PM    View the profile of Skarr 
I'd try searching through DeviantArt. A ton of people on there can be really cool about having their images use so long as you credit them.
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  RE: Main Page Content Revision
May 30, 2012 11:05:59 PM    View the profile of Kami 
I have no issue if you guys want to use my gushy 'I <3 VE' post. Hell, if it makes some newbloods trickle in I'll spam it whenever and wherever I can
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  RE: Main Page Content Revision
June 21, 2012 1:01:40 PM    View the profile of Trykon 
Breaking news: I've gotten in touch with an artist who does AMAZING 3-D renderings of Imperial ships, and he's granted the VE permission to use his work - and even MODIFY his work - for the site, since we're a non-commercial venture.  All we have to do is make sure he's credited on the final, used images!

Raz, I'll get to work ASAP putting together a collage image that's like what you're lookin' for! 

Oh!  And the artist goes by the handle Fractalsponge.  You can check out his rad stuff here.

Um... newgrounds is down, now, I think.  How big do we need this background image to be?
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  RE: Main Page Content Revision
June 21, 2012 2:58:44 PM    View the profile of Raziel 
I loves you tryk, how did people feel about the semi transparent pane in the middle against just having a header and side bars?
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  RE: Main Page Content Revision
June 21, 2012 3:02:23 PM    View the profile of Trykon 
I liked the semi-transparent pane, provided we can come up with an image that's low-contrast.  Something with a lot of contrast or even many hues in the palette might make it tough to read text over it.

If someone can provide me with a background cityscape or something that we have clearance to use, I can pop in some stormtroopers and shuttles and fighters and such to "starwarsify" it.
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  RE: Main Page Content Revision
June 21, 2012 3:47:57 PM    View the profile of Drac 
Trick...wow. Those images are amazing! Even if we don't use them on the main page, I think I see a re-work of a lot of Naval wiki pages' images in our future. With appropriate credit, of course.

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  RE: Main Page Content Revision
June 21, 2012 4:22:26 PM    View the profile of Trykon 
Way ahead of you.    I actually used FS's images unknowingly, back when I made those recruitment posters for the Navy (a google image search got me to some page where they were used, but he wasn't credited on the page).  The images were so great, though, that I've been obsessed with finding him ever since.  Sure enough, there are more amazing renderings than the few I found then, and now we have official permission to use 'em! 

Also, I found another artist who's done some matte paintings of a planetscape that just screams Abrae... gonna see if I can't get in touch with him, too. 
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  RE: Main Page Content Revision
June 21, 2012 4:36:38 PM    View the profile of Raziel 
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  RE: Main Page Content Revision
June 21, 2012 4:42:08 PM    View the profile of Trykon 
I assumed we'd want a planetary scene, so as to show both ground forces AND ships/fighters.  But I can easily whip up a space scene like that one, no problem.  Desired dimensions?
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June 22, 2012 2:30:26 PM    View the profile of Trykon 
Would something like this work?  This is VERY rough, and tinypic won't make it the proper size, but just to give us an idea: http://tinypic.com/r/2igywm0/6
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  RE: Main Page Content Revision
June 22, 2012 3:22:32 PM    View the profile of Skarr 
Wow, those are really amazing. Hopefully this will be the kick to get this effort moving again.
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  RE: Main Page Content Revision
June 23, 2012 3:26:59 PM    View the profile of Trykon 
I was also thinking maybe all the content currently on "www.vastempire.com/main" could not only be spruced up/given new spiffy art (as we've been talking about/doing), but also be moved to "www.vastempire.com"?  The flash intro has served well, and long, but it might be time to retire it in favor of a streamlined vastempire.com that can be easily incorporated into recruiting posters?  As opposed to asking people to visit www.vastempire.com/main...
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  RE: Main Page Content Revision
June 23, 2012 11:46:27 PM    View the profile of Drac 
I'll get behind that. For whatever reason that flash never worked for me anyway, and actually caused me to join a year later than I might have. The first time I found the VE I couldn't discover a way past it.

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June 24, 2012 3:22:54 AM    View the profile of Serpent 
I totally concur with Drac and Trykon.  Making the site more (and quickly) accessible by just having vastempire.com as the main page is a great idea.
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  RE: Main Page Content Revision
June 24, 2012 8:38:49 AM    View the profile of Trykon 
So, fueled by far too many vodka-redbulls, I went ahead and experimented a bit in photoshop.  What do we think of something like this: http://oi48.tinypic.com/5ldx1x.jpg
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June 24, 2012 9:47:10 AM    View the profile of Serpent 
Oh YES Trick, you have outdone yourself.  That is exactly the sort of thing we need!

Give this man a medal.  (another one, I mean)
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  RE: Main Page Content Revision
June 24, 2012 12:54:15 AM    View the profile of Raziel 
Can you email me the full sized background and I'll have a play?

I already have a reasonable CSS template for a transparent panel here:

http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~ppxrr/

I'll shift the right panel over the the left for some links and have a try and do some styles for the main content.
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  RE: Main Page Content Revision
June 24, 2012 2:33:14 PM    View the profile of Trykon 
Thanks Serpent.  And gladly, Raz.  How do you want it: jpeg, photoshop file?  And shall I just Dropbox it to you?  PM me details.

A few thoughts about the above example, now I'm fully awake (and sober) again:
1.) If possible, I think we should incorporate the "A long time ago..." and the Star Wars font logo and some version of a crawl, right up front.  I mean, you can see the results for yourself above, but to me, using those touches grabs Star Wars fans right away, and the slight changes to those touches introduced by the Imperial POV grabs anyone who's even remotely into Star Wars but is REALLY into writing/reading interesting stories.  In other words, it grabs who we want to grab. 
2.) Let's make sure to add a "follow the VE on twitter" button, and another to like our facebook page.
3.) I'm in photoshop mode, now, so I can whip up a set of recruitment posters for lower down the page, one for the Stormtrooper Corps and another for the Navy, if there's interest.
4.) We have to make sure to credit Ansel Hsaio for his gorgeous Imperial ship models (meshes, I think is the term) in the final version!!!
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June 24, 2012 5:37:57 PM    View the profile of Trykon 
Okay, a little more refinement, of both the visuals and the copy: http://oi48.tinypic.com/wl3m29.jpg

Raz, I've sent you the elements in an email.  Hope everything's in the proper format!

Hehe.  The Star Wars site let's you make your own crawl: http://www.starwars.com/play/online-activities/crawl-creator/index.jsp?cs=3nur5uap93
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  RE: Main Page Content Revision
June 26, 2012 6:07:34 PM    View the profile of Trykon 
Has anyone heard of the Star Wars Combine Banner Exchange?  It seems like something we might want to incorporate somehow, yeah?  Get exposure for the new-and-improved VE site, once we roll the new-and-improved site out? 
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June 26, 2012 9:00:45 PM    View the profile of Crest 
I've got a Combine account. Mind letting me get the CPs (their OOC reward) for it? :P

In all seriousness, most of the Banner Exchange is linked to the Combine or its faction's websites....and most banners are horrible quality. Probably not something we want to mar our new site with.
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  RE: Main Page Content Revision
June 27, 2012 4:01:49 PM    View the profile of Raziel 
Going to need:

A higher res banner
To learn how to do drop down menus in html5
To make my stylesheet compatible with current homepage
To do the styles for all the different homepage requirements

http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~ppxrr/veweb/
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