Since there's all this idea stuff goin around, thought I must add this in.  Trevor and Raigen were talking about uniforms apparently, and Trevor gave me an image of this:

http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/c/c5/Fly_for_the_Empire%21.jpg

I believe he wanted to use it for marketing

Lol, to say the least- not bad.  But, the first thing I thought was: she looks good in it, but no one else does.  I suppose my question is- should we consider making a pilot helmet of our own?  If so, is there anything we could base them off of that still looks star warsish?  I'm not sure we should go all top gun if anything, but I suppose its just a thought.  What does anyone else think?

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Phoenix Wing Commander and Training Officer

Sounds like a good idea. I always thought those helmets were darn ugly. But i'm sure the reason for that is because we all know you could strike fear into the hearts of enimies with a helmet that looks like a butterfly...

But the coloring idea would be cool. Have each squadron color along with the pheonix wing color on the uniform. But as for the actual helmet, i have no idea.
 
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TECH/CPO Tokijin/Phoenix Wing/Str Doashim/1FL/VEN/VE (=*A*=) [BWC] [VC:B]

pilots like those are what brings about distraction to the male pilots and what's with the high heels?
 
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"A dishonest man, you can always trust to be dishonest. Honestly, it's the honest ones you want to watch out for, because you can never predict when they're gonna do something incredibly stupid." - Captain Jack Sparrow
"Happy endings are just stories that haven't finished yet." - Jane Smith
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Number 1, the helmet is designed to prevent the head from snapping in high g maneuvers. The eye lenses also have light filters and I would also bet the helmet has better protection than the Rebel models.

Number 2, what is with this whole "we're not the Empire" thing going around lately. We may not be THE Empire, but we are a remnant of it. I have now problem with adding colors to the flight suit, but changing the over all cut or the helmet just seems wrong to me.
 
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EXO/CWO Than Sion/Kaph 5/Wing 1/mSSD Atrus/DEF/VEN/VE(=A=)(=*SA*=)(=MA=)[LoM][VC:S][CBV][MC:1][SWC]{VB}

Never under estimate the power of stupid people in large numbers, unless you have a lot of cookies to throw in opposite corners to distract them.

For reference:
http://www.imperial-navy.com/handbook/index.php?file=section07.xml

The offical uniform page in the Pilot's Handbook.
 
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Fleet Admiral Japheth Cappadocious, Krath Templar
Naval Commander in Chief, Captain of the mSSD Atrus
Headmaster of the Dark Jedi Order Academy
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NCC/FAD Japheth Cappadocious/NHC-1/mSSD Atrus/DEF/VEN/VE/(=MA=)(=SCPA=)(=FCO=)[BRC][BWC][LSM][MC:1][KC:OC][IGCx2][MoHx2]
HM/KT Japheth Cappadocious/DC-3/Krath Order/Elite Griffen Sect/VEDJ/VE/[SoY][EoP]

Stick the barrel down your pants and hope the waist band holds it in place. Also hope that it doesn't decide to go off. That would be bad. That or put it into a boot.

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The VEN`s #1 writer as of ESC `06

Agreed.  I asked the question in part to see what kind of answers I would get.  I was not disappointed
 
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"The way of war is a way of deception. When able, feign inability; when deploying troops, appear not to be. When near, appear far; when far, appear near. Lure with bait; strike with chaos. If the enemy is full, be prepared. If strong, avoid him. If he is angry, disconcert him. If he is weak, stir him to pride. If he is relaxed, harry him; if his men are harmonious, split them. Attack where he is unprepared; appear where you are unexpected. This is victory in warfare; it cannot be divulged in advance. Victory belongs to the side that scores most in the temple calculations before battle. Most spells victory; least spells defeat; none, surer defeat. I see it in this way, and the outcome is apparent." -- Sun Tzu

"Ultimate excellence lies not in winning every battle but in defeating the enemy without ever fighting." -- Sun Tzu

We're not talking about replicas here, for one. Another important point would, perhaps, be that it is highly unlikely that an officer's Navy-issued pistol-type sidearm is going to have a scope. In general, it is unusual for pistols of any sort to have a scope since the range one typically employs a pistol in is close enough that the magnification provided by a scope tends to be more of a hinderence than any kind of help.

I can't imagine that a clip-on/off type of 'holster' is better for standard usage simply because it gives an enemy too easy a shot at your sidearm before you even have the chance to draw it. It is very natural to draw ones own weapon from a holster and difficult to draw someone else's. Conversely, simply yanking someone else's unwielded weapon away from their waist is almost trivially easy.
 
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Naval Commander in Chief, Captain of the mSSD Atrus
Headmaster of the Dark Jedi Order Academy
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HM/KT Japheth Cappadocious/DC-3/Krath Order/Elite Griffen Sect/VEDJ/VE/[SoY][EoP]

My thought wasn't to take the safety properties alluded to in our materials away from the helmet, but to transfer them to something a bit different.  However, upon a little greater inspection- the stormtroopers look ugly but they don't necessarily change because they are not 'Empire'.  I suppose I was looking for a more complete look in general- it always seems like the helmet is the only protective device- the clothing just looks like clothing unless you look at the art with Baron Fel: he usually looks fairly righteous.  Yes, its supposed to protect from fire-hazard, seal the body from space and make thinner folks look a bit beafier.  It usually fails in the last respect though- I suppose I'm looking for a more fitting example.  All the first picture did was give something where you're like- that doesn't look quite as dumb, because it appears to fit in one way or another.  Instead of just black, it added the silver lining in areas, almost bracelets or cufflings in some areas: I think it just looked better. 

Certainly there is some kind of example or way we can make the imperial pilot look just a little more like they should...  Which I'm not sure how to explain, lol.  Right now we look like little kids in our Dad's clothes- something more gripping should take place when people see a TIE pilot.  You can't see their eyes- that's significant.  They have an almost mechanical feel: again important to the emotions they inspire.  I just don't feel the rest of the suit completes it.  Can anyone agree to that?

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Phoenix Wing Commander and Training Officer

If we stress color coding and uniform tightness, would that work...

p.s. I refuse to fly in spandex!
 
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When Mustafar freezes over...
 
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[Black League]
SM/Com Sayah/Task Force 1/Eta Squad/2nd Platoon/Red Company/1st Battalion/KBcC Helsa/OFF/Army/RDA(L)
"And we are here as on a darkling plain
Swept with confused alarms of struggle and flight,
Where ignorant armies clash by night."

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy."

I can actually draw. I could whip something...Actually I have drawn a picture of a tie pilot wearing that sort of uniform. I'll get it put up on the internet some time.

I was just wondering if we couldn't all agree on writing with tighter fitting uniforms in mind.
 
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FM/PO2 Casca "Black Curse" Phennir/Nazgul Squadron 2-7/Phoenix Wing/mSSD Atrus/1VENF OFF/VEN/VE(=*A*=)[VC:B][BWC]
SDJ-75-13

And get out of the Navy CommNet Sayah!

Just giving some mere images I gathered during the ESC and were going to make an wiki post that I never got around to.

The standard Imperial Navy service uniform:


The standard Imperial Dress uniform



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And if you want to try colorization patterns on the TIE suits, just give me a description and/or a rough color scheme sketch and I'll see what I can generate for ya.
 
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Riqimo "Doc" Pershaw

"Stormtroopers don't die; they just go to hell to regroup."

Eclipse Squad

SL/SGT Riqimo/2SQD/2PLT/1COM/1RGT/1BAT/Tadath/VEA [EW1][ES2]

+ Advance Recon Commandos {ARC} +

I agree with Than.  First, the uniforms should be black, olive green, and grey.  Second, there is a flap without gold buttons.  If you could tailor them a little more like the movie ones (with the colour schemes listed in the navy manual) that would be much better
 
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