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Fury
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  State of the galaxy
November 14, 2005 11:12:33 PM    View the profile of Fury 
(Damn browser crash when doing checking out reference info. Didn't feel like writing this all over again last night.)

Alright, here's the deal.  Judging by recent storylines and conversations, many of you know the movies, the games, and not much else about Star Wars. Which is fine, we don't expect you all to be fully submerged in the culture, but it does make certain things harder.

One of those is continuity and in knowing how events affect our storylines and vice versa.  Seeing as we're now looking to veer off of the established continuity a bit, let me bring you up to speed on what has gone on so we can work with an around it.

First off, the Battle of Endor. Established chronologies put this at 4 years after the Battle of Yavin (or 4 ABY to use the terminology in play). Here are the high and low points of the battle.

After the loss of Grand Admiral Teshik's star destroyer, Captain Pellaeon of the Chimaera sounds a general retreat and regroup for the fleet. This decision, and the loss of the Emperor, leads to various rifts and the creation of the following factions:

- Admiral Harrsk, takes one Endor task force to the Deep Core to secure the Imperial safeworlds

- Admiral Teradoc creates his own piece of the Empire in the Mid-Rim

- Admiral Gaen Drommel takes over his sector, in command of the SSD Guardian

- Grand Moff Ardus Kaine, who succeeded Tarkin, creates the Pentastar Alignment, nominally in the Outer Rim

- "Superior General" Delvardus claims much of the Rimma Trade Route

- Grand Admirals Grunger and Pitta both claim the Corellian sector

- Admiral Zsinj takes over the Quelli sector

- Sate Pestage -  and increasingly Ysanne Isard - rule much of the remaining Empire from Coruscant

- Truce at Bakura campaign pitting a combined Rebellion/Imperial fleet against the Ssi-ruuvi

5 ABY

- Central Committee of Grand Moffs moves against Isard. Internal struggles and NR efforts derail the plot.

6 ABY

- Grand Admiral Syn killed at Kashyyyk. Grand Admirals Grunger and Pitta kill each other in infighting in Corellian system.

6.5-7 ABY

- Coruscant falls to the New Republic, Isard unleashes the anti-alien Krytos Plague

7 ABY

- Bacta War; Isard, driven from Coruscant, takes over the bacta supply at Thyferra. NR eventually defeats her and believes her dead

8 ABY

Warlord Zsinj preys on NR fears and sends brainwashed aliens to key NR leaders to disrupt multicultural make of NR. Escapes after NR invades his territories. Is eventually killed over Dathomir.

8.5 ABY

The loss of Zsinj creates a land grab by Imperial leaders Admiral Rogriss and Warlord Teradoc, who both quickly lose their gains to the New Republic. Both NR and Imperial fleets are diminished by years of constant fighting.

9 ABY

Advent of Thrawn. Most loyalist Imperial have thrown in with the Grand Admiral. Warlords such as Admiral Krennel and Grand Moff Kaine are left out of the reconstituted Empire.

To date, Thrawn has had the following campaigns

- Battle of Obroa-skai
- Raid on Nkllon
- Katana Fleet; Thrawn captures just slightly more than half the fleet of ships.

This leaves him weaker than official chronology states. NR agents, including Solo, Skywalker, and Calrissian slave 80 ships and send them into a sun to avoid their being captured by Thrawn. Of the original 200, he retains 104, the New Republic capture 15, rather than the 184 he officially captured. One Dreadnaught destroys a Thrawn star destroyer.

This is where we are to date. Thrawn is forcing the NR into retreat on many fronts, but his resources are stretched.  Without additional Imperial backing, he will not be able to advance.

Upcoming are the Seige of Coruscant and the confrontation at Wayland.

The warlords, marginalized, are currently sitting out the campaign. Admiral Krennel's Ciutric Hegemony has rebulit from earlier setbacks. The Deep Core warlords, including Harsrk and Delvardus are not currently committed to the campaign. Isard remains unaccounted for. There is a lot of Empire left to string together, if they can stop shooting at each other long enough to do so.

That said, there are likely a few roads we are not taking. I imagine, from talks with Talon, that the Dark Empire timeline won't occur in our's. No cloned emperors, or clones of said clone. No Kevin J. Anderson superweapons of the week or Hutt superlasers.  Some of these things are just plain impractical if nothing else.

We, the VE, are on the fringes of space with a nice finger of conquests heading Coreward. We have NR in front of us, warlords on one side, pirates and Thrawnist Imps on the other. Our trade lanes are preyed on by pirates and rogue Imperials.

We have a lot of independent worlds for the taking and some NR conquests to make. We can also fight a couple Imperial factions if the story requires it.

I'll add some links in a bit to help you get a better look at all this. I hope it helps. I welcome your feedback. Squad leaders, I will post in the next couple days concerning my thoughts on planets and campaigns you may wish to run either with your squad or with others.  That way, you can help advance the Corps plot without just having random chance encounters.

I hope this helps more than it confuses.


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  RE: State of the galaxy
November 14, 2005 11:25:07 PM    View the profile of Sinister 
Very interesting if I do say so, always good to learn so more of the history.
 
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November 15, 2005 12:13:38 AM    View the profile of Cosmic 
Ah, yes. Extremely helpful, Fury. Thanks much.
 
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  RE: State of the galaxy
November 15, 2005 12:44:38 AM    View the profile of Sniping101 
Straightens some things up, thanks for taking the time.
 
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  RE: State of the galaxy
November 15, 2005 6:53:55 AM    View the profile of Raziel 
Excellent Fury, thanks for that!
Also, for those who havent read the Thrawn trilogy:

http://starwars.wikicities.com/wiki/Thrawn_campaign

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  RE: State of the galaxy
November 16, 2005 9:53:54 AM    View the profile of Fury 
A few links of interest for those of you doing research.

These are commonly known so many of you may be aware of them already.

- Cartographer's Nav Computer
- CUSWE - Completely Unofficial Star Wars Encyclopedia
- Star Wars Chronology
- Wikipedia's Dates in the Star Wars universe
- Star Wars Planets Guide - more than a bit out of date but useful
- Wikipedia list of planets
- SWRPGNetwork

And just in case you're shopping for a new book, an extensive writeup on The New Essential Chronology.

Add other links you may find useful.

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November 16, 2005 9:56:44 AM    View the profile of Hellra 
Thanks Fury,this is gonna clear up alot of stuff, maybe you should include these links in the recuits emails,
 
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November 16, 2005 9:59:10 AM    View the profile of Sinister 
Speaking from personal experience, it would be helpfull for new recruits to have this sort of information, to help them with character biographies and all.
 
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  RE: State of the galaxy
November 16, 2005 10:15:38 AM    View the profile of Fury 
Part of the problem lies in figuring out how much info to give new troopers. I'd rather have them figure out how to work in a squad, then develop their knowledge base down the line.

There's a happy medium somewhere, we just have to find it.
 
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November 16, 2005 10:33:35 AM    View the profile of Sinister 
I was mainly speaking of giving them a general time period in which to base their character. For example, I have seen a few Bios on the ComNet that, for lack of a better word, have been picked apart because of the chronological inaccuracies.  But I do personally agree that having people develop and learn the time line is a good thing, makes you feel like your more involved in the timeline.
 
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November 16, 2005 11:39:17 AM    View the profile of Cosmic 
Perhaps just stating, in so many words, "We're in the Thrawn Era, approximately 10 years after RotJ" or something. *shrugs*
 
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November 16, 2005 12:17:09 AM    View the profile of Sinister 
Yeah thats what I meant.
 
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May 9, 2006 10:28:17 PM    View the profile of Rozelo Kondant 
ya this helps thank you, i new the basics, saw all the movies and have played the storis of most star wars games,  and ya i want to get into a squad soon
 
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June 24, 2006 6:06:00 AM    View the profile of Mike Zenima 
This helps a lot, thanks Fury
 
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August 14, 2006 4:26:33 PM    View the profile of jag fel 
very good maybe it might be worth mentioning outbound flight seeing as there are a few refrences in the books.
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August 29, 2006 10:26:47 PM    View the profile of Red Sand 
He he he, I am a avid reader of Star Wars Novels so I know the time line.  I have it copied down on graph paper from the New Jedi Order Series in a time line form.  But where VE is exactly, in the Thrawn Trilogy, right now was very interesting indeed because I always wondered that.  Now the only thing is we shouldn't compleatly say that everything in the Dark Saber book should be false.

It would cut out a big part of the Admiral Dalaa story.

Crix Madeen died in the book.

Events in the book are also mentioned in others a few times.
 
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August 31, 2006 6:37:13 PM    View the profile of Angel 
The only thing I imagine we will be keeping from the Daala series is the establishment of the Jedi Temple on Yavin and the reconstruction of the Jedi Order. But that falls solely under the discretion of Talon, since all things Force related are his jurisdiction. Nothing else really important happened during that series.
 
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August 31, 2006 6:44:12 PM    View the profile of Red Sand 
I forgot to mention this earlier.  That book also showed a piece of the Palleon story.  You can't just ignore him.  He ends up being the leader of the Empire eventually.
 
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August 31, 2006 7:14:32 PM    View the profile of Kairo 
Whose Empire is the question Red. Who says the VE isn't going to diverge from the books during the Thrawn era and take over the Thrawn controlled territory and such, thus basically eliminating the need for Palleon
 
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September 1, 2006 10:01:09 AM    View the profile of Red Sand 
Nobody, I just assumed we weren't going to defy the offical SW history.
 
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September 1, 2006 3:34:49 PM    View the profile of Raigen 
Which mean Raigen was born at the beginning of 6BBY. Which means Raigen could never have been enlslaved at stars end. Ill have to fix that. Also, Raigen started traveling the galaxy during the destruction of the death star and  That means his father was of the first Imperial Pilots after the clonewars.... sweet....heritage. We are the second generation of Tie Pilots!
 
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September 6, 2006 9:13:11 AM    View the profile of Raigen 
I'm probably not the first person to ask this, but what sector are we in and where is it?
 
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September 6, 2006 2:01:54 PM    View the profile of Garet Daimun 
I know some people have the updated galaxy map, but on most Galactic Maps it doesn't have us. We're near the top of the "Unknown Regions".
 
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September 8, 2006 4:38:11 PM    View the profile of Sayah 

got it...
 
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March 18, 2008 11:50:28 AM    View the profile of TX-47 
BTW, General Crix Madine lay live; it's the HC's call.....

So to make sure I'm Crystal-Clear on this:  Grand Moff Kadann is not on board with Thrawn.  Is he allied/neutral/hostile?


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Alzoc III
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Chandrila
Cinnagar
Corellia
Dantooine
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Rhen Var
Talay
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Taspir III
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March 18, 2008 1:00:46 PM    View the profile of Dante 
Q1: Hostile as in "eliminate with extreme prejudice".

TX, if you want answers for all of those that badly go look through the old stories.

If they aren't mentioned and they're an important planet, they're hostile/neutral.

P.S.
Some of these are obvious:
Thyferra is under a pro-NR regime as shown in the X-wing book series. Read first, ask questions later.
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March 18, 2008 2:31:54 PM    View the profile of Riqimo 
We're somewhat hostile to Thrawn, more of hostile/neutral.

As for planets, I most would be neutral, unless they are directly within the New Republic, or we have taken recent military action against them.  At least that's my guess.
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March 18, 2008 6:04:16 PM    View the profile of Sniping101 
Actually, this reminded me, do we have a list anywhere of the planets we've taken over, because as is said, we have a finger stretching coreward.
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  RE: State of the galaxy
March 18, 2008 6:51:40 PM    View the profile of Decembrist 
Find Moorja and look towards the core. I dunno exactly what planets have been taken, but as Snipes said, that's where our "finger" is.
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May 6, 2008 12:06:40 AM    View the profile of Fury 
You're right, we should have a map of this. But, lacking that for the moment, follow the path (as mentioned to you) with us occupying Moorja, and then down to Bestine IV, which is also ours.

We have a client state arrangement with Kiffu/Kiffex and somewhat allied Imperials at Eriadu and down the Trade Spine. Yag'dhul is forcibly neutral. We can't actually take the place but have denied their shipyard manufacturing to the NR.

We worked to increase Devaron's neutrality, but that was a mixed mission. Plus, we are working to increase the Tapani Sector's independence (hence the Hast Shipyards mission).

There is likely opportunity to run some stories along the gap between VE space and the region of space we are working in, so, have fun with that.
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