I don't know how other feel about this, but i was wondering about this now for several weeks. and i felt like posting it, since this is a star wars web and the good and bad plays a mojor role in it, well in the movies anyway.

Why do we have emotions?...this may seem like a dumb question, but to me its more than just words. I failed history{my best subject} because i didn't just answer my questions, i pondered on them to much, and thought about them in a phillospy manner...wrong grammar i know.


What are you?...good or bad?
And i mean not,  some peoiple choose being bad because it sounds sou cool, and other wants to be good, to set an example, but i am not talking about either of those reason's

I guess if i have to choose,{ im still not sure}
i guess i would be neutral...how to put this.
I stand for my own moarls and choises. but then the question arises...what is morals?
Morals is concepts taught to you from young age by your parents. Or rather not taught, but infulenced, we still make the choice at the end of the day.
No matter what, there is always a choice, even if it is teasing your bro or sis, or just walking home. There are two ways to my home, and each day when i walk, i ind my sel finding it difficult to choose between those paths. this sounds like im talking about the path of good and eveil, i am literaly talking about two roads that leads to the same house, and there is no difference between them, both are the same lenght, both have over a 100 steps etc.


There is a fine line between choices, between irony, sarcasm and sincerity.

But lets go back to bad and good.
I am not heartless, ok i am bit, or so my friends say at school because of my sarcasm and because i refuse to give money to beggars etc...oh yeah and i insult them most of the times when they ask my opinion, and well i am a straight foreward person...in the last times they don't bug me with question anymore..lol

Everything i am mentioning is examples of my point of view.

The reason why would refuse to give moeny is, it won't bring him anywhere. He would go buy a drink or some food, but it won't bring himanywhere so why give?
someone once said.,,give a fishing rod to the beggar instead of fish.

I am relious, but its foolish to always comment out of a religious perspective, it would mean being narrow minded sometimes. I mean, i hate the day, and summmers, the only bomus is swimming. the night is my element, and when it rains im happy, some see that as bad signs...
If i looked at this in a non religious, then i say....what is te difference netween good and bad?...we all die sooner or later...the same with roads leading to my house.

what makes me good?
what makes me bad?
and how do i see it?
Does good mean being compasionate?
Does bad mean being heartless?
I am in between, since the good never does win everyday..
and the bad guy drowns in his own mistakes usually.
Being good, does  forgiving and forgetting?

And where does the traitor fit?







 
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Sometimes your the pigeon, sometimes your the statue....
Rather be the table cloth than the dishrag...
Everyone makes mistakes, acknowledge them, learn from them but dont drown in them...
I can sum up everything i have learned about life....s@#t happens...
There is a fine line between everything, before one decides on a matter, make sure you can see that line....
The lie is but moment, the truth is forever...
When i could see it, i couldn't stop it, when i could have stopped it, i didn't see it.....
Money is the root of all evil, but it makes the misery so much more comfortable...

Well i asked those questions, its those questions that one answers for himself.
A greath French philoshoper{Jean Jaques Rassouw} stated that the human in his most natural form can be without sins. Like the bushmen.{Khoisans}

But it just brings up another question...why do we kill?..yes, maybe it is the need for money and jealousy etc.
But where does rape fit in?...what drove the human to that point?....Creatures from the animal world don't do that.
It is sad to me, that the human race is more animalistic then most people think.

And i Know that i am insulting some people here. And i don't mean any offense. What is the enjin of the human mind?...why do we make the choices we make?


Eviscars thank for the reply, it is intresting to see ohther's opinion.
And i also belive in you learn from your mistakes.
Everyone makes mistakes, acknowledge them. learn from them but from them but don't drown in them.
You may bump you more than once, even on the same place, but watch out to much bumping causes damge to the skull and brain......
 
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Sometimes your the pigeon, sometimes your the statue....
Rather be the table cloth than the dishrag...
Everyone makes mistakes, acknowledge them, learn from them but dont drown in them...
I can sum up everything i have learned about life....s@#t happens...
There is a fine line between everything, before one decides on a matter, make sure you can see that line....
The lie is but moment, the truth is forever...
When i could see it, i couldn't stop it, when i could have stopped it, i didn't see it.....
Money is the root of all evil, but it makes the misery so much more comfortable...

I dont believe in good and bad, sence both are subjective (wow, another Star Wars theme). and in the end niether actualy matter, to seperate the world into two sphere, one good and one bad only limits what you will experiance and how full your life will be. you cant be a good person or a bad person becuase both spheres exist in you, in truth to be a 'bad' person is almost more natural, sence many of the things associated with it are spurred often by strong emotion or indulgence of your emotions, your fears, your loves, ect. and to be a good person is to control these emotions and let them mold, to withstrain them and control them. in this sence love is often misunderstood, however we do control it, we keep much of it secret and let it fill us with shame should it come up in polite conversation, no you never hear people talk about thier feelings, it is my belief that the true reason behind that is because to accept those feelings, wholey and truely would mean to break the morals that were taught to you, to us, by those that came before us, but they cant be trusted, they could make mistakes, and they do. there is no good and there is no bad, they are things invented by the human kind to keep control of the rest, to bring peace and self-preservation; however niether truly exist and there is no point trying to be on or the other, not all people who give into thier nature are 'bad' just as many that do are considered so. to care how others judge you, vanity, is not worth the time it takes to jump through thier hoops, and everyone has thier own set of hoops. accept people for how they are, it is thier nature, or rather thier way to be like that and so you as a person have no right to judge it good or bad when you yourself contain both spheres of inflluence.

the traitor is a hero or a dog, depending who wins.

If you have not already, read all of Herman Hesses books, all of them, even Beneath the Wheel although most people will tell you its pointless, its not. i havent read all of them though, theres still two i think that i cant find anywhere.

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"Next time I hide something, I'm packing explosives around it. Explosives shaped like silver bananas! Stops thieves, monkeys and monkey thieves in one fell swoop." - Kang the Mad

Yes, it is both path ways people seems to follow.
Like i said before, i am looking at this in a none relgious perspective, i am bit in the middle leaning over to goodness. Or wait let me put it like this. I am good, but my ideas about life is in the middle. Looking at this in a relgious manner, i am relgious, though some of my actions don't prove that sometimes. everyone makes mistakes.
I don't know if it is alright bringing is this this example, okay i would not give an example, lets say the dark path...why do some choose it?
Are they consumed by greed, hate what?...
I am not asking this because i don't know, i am asking because everyone has a different idea, and it is intresting hear those ideas, it some times changes my ideas.

Intresting thing you said there Zar...it makes alot of sense

too... deepp.............. for....me........
 
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A high school teacher I once had who is now studying for his Phd. got our class to discuss whether or not the world was "going to hell".  And we discussed wars, terrorism, disease, poverty, etc.  But that didn't get at the root cause.  So we dug deeper and discovered two key concepts led to the evil in our world.

Ignorance and Apathy.

We make choices in our lives, and some of us choose or just don't know, and others choose not to care.  It is this dangerous combination that I believe then leads to evil.

If one doesn't care, then they lack interest and empathy in their approach to dealing with life and society.  The lack of caring and its indirect offshoots (lack of compassion, etc.), does not mean that a person is evil but it means that they are unlikely to know, care, or do anything about the present situation.  When mixed with not knowing, this becomes even more dangerous.  If you know but don't care, you are logically speaking turning your back on the ills of society and thus exhibiting a poor example.  If you don't know and subsequently don't care, that means you are disengaging yourself completely from society and thus are useless in the struggle to help rid the world of evils.  If you don't care about the evils in the world, that means you indirectly accept all actions, positive and negative, thus a subtle condoning of both compassion and cruelty.

Finally, and most dangerous of all.  If you don't know but care, this leaves one blinded to reason and logic and easy prey for propaganda.  If you are clouded and unable to see through the smoke and mirrors spewed out from all sides, you cease to become a participating being in society and become a walking machine of ignorant propaganda that can have a positive or negative impact on society.  It brings information to simplicity and affects the emotions rather than the brain.  This can be a prime source to fuel hatred and racism.

Ultimately, the message from the lecture was, at all times, seek out for knowledge and always care about society and what is going on in it.  Once we no longer know or care, we no longer serve our society and subsequently, condone all good and evil that comes from it.

Hellra, that may not directly answer your question but there it is anyhow.
 
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"The way of war is a way of deception. When able, feign inability; when deploying troops, appear not to be. When near, appear far; when far, appear near. Lure with bait; strike with chaos. If the enemy is full, be prepared. If strong, avoid him. If he is angry, disconcert him. If he is weak, stir him to pride. If he is relaxed, harry him; if his men are harmonious, split them. Attack where he is unprepared; appear where you are unexpected. This is victory in warfare; it cannot be divulged in advance. Victory belongs to the side that scores most in the temple calculations before battle. Most spells victory; least spells defeat; none, surer defeat. I see it in this way, and the outcome is apparent." -- Sun Tzu

Nice post Art though i cant make a comment on it, i still need to think about it for a while.
Snipes about your comment, that is intresting, because my first post does have some about that. What drives the human mind?,....why did the hman develop in such dominating being?...
 
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Like i aslo said, this one french philospher said in one of his letters, the human in his most natural form is a good being, but when a small object is added, like a weapon, alust for power, or jealousy is developed...if i can give an good example of some people like that, its the bush man of south-africa, if you still don't understand or just want to know more, i reccomend the movie..."The Gods must ne crazy"
 
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In most simplistic terms I suppose the best way to put how I portray my character here is to say that I am a Fallen Angel.

I suppose in many ways even as a person I am still a Fallen Angel.

A person who wants nothing more then to see the brightest future but in striving for it commits or calls upon thier own darker natures to do so and in the process becomes of thier own darkness.

We all have that bit of good and evil in us.  We are neither solely one or the other but yet we are constantly both.  One may gain dominance over the other but niether can ever truely destroy the other.

Look at my comnet avatar.  It is very symbolic of my perception of myself and what terms I have come to with myself.

Emotions also help define us and who we are.  Without them we may as well be rocks gathering moss.  I can't prove if rocks are capable of thought or not but I can prove they don't show emotion in any humanly perceptable manner.

For better or worse how we are raised effects our future and who we are.

I can't remember the Great Philospher's name that said this but "If you can even truely completely understand even yourself let alone others then you are way ahead of the rest of us."  I think I'm missremembering the second half of the quote but oh well not much I can do about that untill I find it again.
 
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You're right Sniping, that just adds to the fact that no one can judge whos good and bad, and the constant conflict of situations if viewed correctly. But then, how do you know whats viewed correctly? <----see
 
Oh, thanks for the kudos Snipes, I appreciate it
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"Courage and bravery are your two primary weapons on the battlefield, without them, it is difficult and sometimes impossible to prevail"-Jakireth Cadrimos

Thanks for responding your thoughts to this thread, it gave a greater perspective to me.
The questions i asked here didn't necessarily neededb answering. I thnk the concept of good and bad is how one's perception is on where to draw the line.
I think it is also about the community's moral and rules, if you go against the community then you would be disliked by most, since the rules are there to keep the majority happy. The community's morals, and culture has to be accepted by its superior city and the city's to the country,
so killing people wouldn't be bad judging on your community standard. So killing could be justified, because you grew up with it, and its could be the standard of the your family.

Planet Earth has a reigning majority of people against killing and abusing, thus it is concidered bad, and must be punished. I think the reason why the human being is so different from animals is because we are also the most dominent creature, we are over 6 billion, and the unspoken agreement animals have with each other doesn't exist in us, thus is why morals and rules are created...okay i dont think that exactly, but my thoughts are something in that line...
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whoops i guess....i was just writing my final thought...anyway ciao...

  Good and Evil are points of view. For example, my VE char is Good, but he is a member of the Empire. He believes the rebellion is evil and the empire is good. Its all perspective.
 
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The Vast Empire Medic. (As far as I know, Im the only one)

Perspective doesnt make anything "true"
We are trying to decide (or have already done so) what is bad, and what is good. A certain perspective clouds that decision.
 
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"Courage and bravery are your two primary weapons on the battlefield, without them, it is difficult and sometimes impossible to prevail"-Jakireth Cadrimos