Fury
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RE: IRC pros and cons
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February 25, 2004
9:39:33 PM
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With all the hoopla that has come up of late, it became a problem for me tonight when I realized that a lot of the folks who hang around on our IRC channel(s) have a better sense of our recent events than of those who don't.
The smarmy answer is: get them online.
That actually doesn't quite do the job because of schedules or whatnot.
Before I go further, I don't know if I have anywhere to go with this, I just wanted to put the idea out there. Basically, a lot of background stuff goes on via IRC. All anyone who doesn't use the program much gets are the meeting logs. The rest of the time is usually dead air and silly conversations. However, occasionally something important to the club happens there and we owe it to everyone to somehow get that info across.
I'm not sure through what means or how often, but its important that we are all on the same page as a club so we know what our successes and problems are.
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Japheth
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RE: IRC pros and cons
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February 25, 2004
10:11:38 PM
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IRC is a tool. A very powerful tool.
For example:
We used the topic of the Griffen Sect channel to signify who was writing on the story at that time so that we wouldn't have two people writing a follow up to the same post.
Similarly it gives you a chance to get to know other people in your unit. Because of that I feel that I'm often able to portray their characters better, and I just generally have a great deal of fun talking to people (in general, obviously there are exceptions :P)
So yes, I support a gentile push for members to be on IRC. A great deal can be resolved via IRC ("Whats going on in our story right now." or "Can I even throw a grenade that far") and games can be easily arranged, ips and servers sorted out and whatnot.
Yeah, tehres my .02 credits -----------------------
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Talon
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RE: IRC pros and cons
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February 25, 2004
11:36:58 PM
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Do as the old man says and the hamster lives. -----------------------
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RE: IRC pros and cons
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February 26, 2004
1:12:33 AM
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Couldnt have put it any better japh....cept for the whole Griffen sect thing...but Raiders has utilized it recently to keep our storyline organized and moving. Japh is totally right about getting a better feel for you squaddies. Finding out their habits, and speech patterns helps you write them accurately in your posts...made me feel more confidant about using others more often...
Oh and lets save the hamster
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Liquid
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RE: IRC pros and cons
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February 26, 2004
8:11:37 AM
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I find IRC to be a very powerful tool as well for organizing meeting in between squad members, organizing gaming, and even reprimanding members in private (yes, sometimes it has to be done) For instance, so-and-so doesn't turn in a report, but shows up on IRC, i personal message him to find out what's going on, and tell him/her that he/she needs to turn one in next week or they'll be put on AWOL. it's a lot easier to do this when you can get an instant responce than through email or on the comnet, sure, the comnet is also a powerful tool, but we (as a whole) need to take full advantage of the resources that are available. Also, it helps the atmosphere of the club if we see you online, we think that you're a more active member, and we can get a hold of you to commend you and what not.
oh, and show up for the meetings on sundays as well, i realize that some of you in different time zones don't have that luxury, but, if you can make it, it's an awesome way to show activity. -----------------------
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Argon Viper
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RE: IRC pros and cons
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February 26, 2004
11:50:51 AM
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Well, I'm in PST, so I don't have the excuse of time zones. I do, however, have the excuse of schedules and real life. I have class most weekdays, pretty much all day, and in the evening, I like to spend time relaxing or doing homework. On weekends, I usually go somewhere and do stuff. Needless to say, I don't have time to hang out on IRC. In my other two clubs (the EH and the RS), this defficiency is made up for by the fact that most stuff takes place by e-mail, and I usually manage a few checks daily. Here, I try to check the comnet at least once a day to keep up to date. Hanging out on IRC a lot just to stay in touch really isn't an option for some of us, so I'd like to see a less time-consuming method come up. Things can take place on IRC, they always have, and probably always will, but it'd be nice if they made it to the comnet as well, so that those of us with less time can hear about them 
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Darkhawk
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RE: IRC pros and cons
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February 26, 2004
3:37:41 PM
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I'm with Argon on this one. I live off-campus, and I spend most of my days on-campus. That means that I'm rarely at my computer, and even when I am, I often don't have time to get on IRC. The ComNet has always been my main means of communication (note my large number of posts). IRC is great, don't get me wrong - if you have the time for it. I know I could do a better job, but I would also really appreciate it if there was some way to get important events that occur on IRC posted onto the ComNet.  -----------------------
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Cosmic
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RE: IRC pros and cons
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February 26, 2004
5:09:18 PM
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To me, getting on IRC seems so simple: when you get online, do a couple clicks and you're in. Setting mIRC up, however, has proven to have been the more difficult portion for the new recruits who have no experience with the client.
Maybe we should look at an alternative? Comtech technology :P -----------------------
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Argon Viper
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RE: IRC pros and cons
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February 26, 2004
5:48:43 PM
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Yeah, it's pretty simple all right, took me about two minutes my first time on undernet, and about ten to figure out how to load up the VE server. I guess someone could load up something-or-other like a manual for it. Anyways, yeah, DH brought up a pretty good point, check out a person's # of posts to figure out if they go on IRC or not  -----------------------
Argon Viper
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RE: IRC pros and cons
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February 26, 2004
6:54:16 PM
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I must admit that I'm somewhat confused. The last couple of times I tried to get on, the javachat link thingy wouldn't load. -----------------------
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Merrick
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RE: IRC pros and cons
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February 27, 2004
5:45:43 AM
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We do have a newspaper for a reason right? Why doesn't it report anything useful? *looks at Cosmic* -----------------------
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RE: IRC pros and cons
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February 27, 2004
10:15:45 AM
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Post on the comments if you want something useful. As far as I can see, I'm the only writer, and I can't think of anything (besides, I'm getting some interesting responses on the interviews). If you want something interesting, suggest it in the comments -----------------------
Argon Viper
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Sniping101
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RE: IRC pros and cons
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February 27, 2004
8:07:47 PM
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ok, now my IRC dont work, i dont know why, i just reformatted, installed it and typed in /server irc.fesgaming.com
and basicaly it says something like unable to connect or unable to reslove host, this bothers me to no end sence i wish very much to show my activity and i miss hangin out on mIRC for hours on end. if anyone has any advice on how to fix this please tell me, i realy need to know or im afreaid im just gonna haveta go into the reserves. one other thing i was wondering that might cause it, although i dont know if it would, would be if i was banned or something, just wondering, if its necceesary i can give you my IP via email (im sorry but postiing it even on a closed forum like this just goes against the grain.)
oh ya, i just kinda skimmed throught he first few posts sence there was too much to read through quikly. -----------------------
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Kuroishi
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RE: IRC pros and cons
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February 27, 2004
11:44:15 PM
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First off i'll address sniping 101's problem:You need to put in the IP address rather then the irc.fesgaming.org.
I'm almost always over at Geist's on Sundays or out doing something with Geist and JETHRO.
I used to have a lot of posts before all the server changes and any more I try to post more quality then quantity.
there was a long streatch where I was barely doing anything. I wouldn't call myself depressed during that time but more like an utter lack of anything to spark the ol' imagination. I'm starting to get a little bit of that back too.
I need to dig up the IP myself for our IRC server, as I have also had to do a reformat recently. -----------------------
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Sniping101
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RE: IRC pros and cons
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March 1, 2004
5:41:40 PM
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that didnt work unless the one posted on teh domain is wrong, or if you like need to put irc.(IP)
what i did was type in /server (insert the IP here) -----------------------
Formaly the Perpetual PFC
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Mandor
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RE: IRC pros and cons
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March 7, 2004
8:46:29 PM
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Ummm wasnt it a part of Basic Training, to have IRC. If im correct, then everyone should have it, and those who dont obviously lied to their CO's. Im not positive how long thats been a requirement. I just hope people start to get more active. I joined so i could have fun, not sit and be idle at an IRC screen.
just throwin out my sense of the world -----------------------
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chipmunk man
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RE: IRC pros and cons
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March 8, 2004
5:40:39 AM
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I was using the javachat link thingy, but it doesn't work anymore. -----------------------
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." -Albert Einstien
"There is a certain kind of peace that can be found only on the other side of war." -Sean Connery as King Arthur in "First Knight."
"People like you are the reason people like me take medication." -Cool T-shirt
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RE: IRC pros and cons
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March 8, 2004
5:42:02 AM
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Wait! Never mind that, it works! It works! -----------------------
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"There is a certain kind of peace that can be found only on the other side of war." -Sean Connery as King Arthur in "First Knight."
"People like you are the reason people like me take medication." -Cool T-shirt
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Argon Viper
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RE: IRC pros and cons
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March 8, 2004
9:25:50 AM
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Yeah, Mandor's got a point. Even if I had time, idling on IRC really isn't that much fun... It'd be a lot easier if there was just some kind of bulletin that got posted on the main site detailing important things that happened on IRC... -----------------------
Argon Viper
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Sniping101
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RE: IRC pros and cons
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March 9, 2004
11:20:41 PM
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ya, but its through IRC that you realy get to know people and. . .well its just damned fun. Mandor, i had mIRC once, then i moved, got wireless internet, hasnt worked sence. this is in my opinion yet another reason wireless internet SUX. -----------------------
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I'm a little teapot, short and stout. Here is my handle, here is my spout. When I see an ARC all short and stout, BOOM! He flies through the hall and out. -anonymous
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