D'har Leth
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Saddam
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December 30, 2006
2:26:38 PM
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For those of you who don't know yet, former Iraqi president Saddam Hussein along with two of his co-defendants, was hanged last night at 10:07 Eastern Time. He was convicted of the killing of 148 Shi'a Muslims in the town of Dujail in 1982, after an attempt was made on his life while he was in the town. ----------------------- Private First Class D'har Leth
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RE: Saddam
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December 30, 2006
2:58:39 PM
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And it's about time they did so. ----------------------- EclipseSquad
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RE: Saddam
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December 30, 2006
4:05:33 PM
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Yeah...but we got people on death row for years! ----------------------- FM/SCRW Raigen/Nazgul 3-11/Phoenix Wing/mSSD Atrus/DEF/VEN/VE (=*A*=) [VC:B]
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Amason
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RE: Saddam
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December 30, 2006
5:33:30 PM
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I'm with Garet on this one. ----------------------- --Am
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Arturus
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RE: Saddam
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December 30, 2006
6:33:25 PM
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I completely disagree with how they have handled all of this but I will post my thoughts in detail later. ----------------------- WADJ, SPAC/2LT Corran "Arturus" Hargraves/SCR Doashim/VE/VEN/(=A=)(=SA=)(=*MA*=)(=JCPA=)(=SCPA=)[MC:1](x2)[SV][BRC][VC:B][CBV][LSM][LoC][BWC][SWC][GWC]
"The way of war is a way of deception. When able, feign inability; when deploying troops, appear not to be. When near, appear far; when far, appear near. Lure with bait; strike with chaos. If the enemy is full, be prepared. If strong, avoid him. If he is angry, disconcert him. If he is weak, stir him to pride. If he is relaxed, harry him; if his men are harmonious, split them. Attack where he is unprepared; appear where you are unexpected. This is victory in warfare; it cannot be divulged in advance. Victory belongs to the side that scores most in the temple calculations before battle. Most spells victory; least spells defeat; none, surer defeat. I see it in this way, and the outcome is apparent." -- Sun Tzu
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RE: Saddam
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December 30, 2006
6:59:48 PM
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Oh no, not this again. ----------------------- {Comnet Hermit}
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Raigen
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RE: Saddam
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December 30, 2006
7:01:31 PM
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/me gets popcorn and front row seats! ----------------------- FM/SCRW Raigen/Nazgul 3-11/Phoenix Wing/mSSD Atrus/DEF/VEN/VE (=*A*=) [VC:B]
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Garet Daimun
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RE: Saddam
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December 30, 2006
11:20:15 PM
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How they have handled all of this? What isn't ethical about killing a man who's killed hundreds? There is absolutely no way you can play it off as self defense, either. ----------------------- EclipseSquad
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RE: Saddam
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December 31, 2006
12:27:05 AM
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If you want to play it that way, then we should execute the people who authorized the use of the Atomic Bomb in Japan. Thousands of innocent civillians who had nothing to do with the war were killed. America has no grounds with which to persocute ANYONE for mass murder.
Also, America is royally screwed, especially in terms of the War on Terror. Saddam is a martyr now and yet another reason for Terrorist to hate the "Great White Satan".
I say that we should have just thrown Saddam in a maximum security prison to rot for the rest of his life. ----------------------- TRP/PFCRayden-Shiong/3SQD/1PLT/1Com/1RGT/1BAT/VEA/VE/Tadath
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Jelly Bean
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RE: Saddam
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December 31, 2006
12:30:03 AM
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This guy has killed hundreds of people don't tell me you believe that bull crap that his defense attorney about it being people that worked for him that did it. Listen he's still responsible for his cabinet.
He deserved to die. It was humane for a death to he died instantly when they hung him his neck snapped.
I think they should have hung him Salem style push him off the side of a ladder and let him strangle which takes 3 minutes. then they should have cut his body down and left him out in the desert for the animals.
and Second for Rayden
WE DIDN'T PERSECUTE HIM HIS OWN PEOPLE SENTENCED HIM TO DEATH
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etan evnstar
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RE: Saddam
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December 31, 2006
12:31:43 AM
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Argee with Garet no further input from me needed.
Tell em' Garet. Like it is.
Oh heck, can't help myself. I don't know about the hanging part. Maybe lethal injection would have been kinder. But, yeah, why be kind to this #$%^%^#@@$&^^%#%. Maybe I over explixcatived there, but?
We only captured him. His own people tried him and convicted him and killed him in their own way. In a way we had to do with a change in the elected government, otherwise it would have been his cousin as judge and his brother as D.A. and none of this would have happened, because he would have been able to regain power and kill thousands of more who opposed him.
And, if we had tried and convicted him, he would have sat on death row for years appealing the conviction through our kinder gentler nation. And even, perhaps have gotten free someday through some technicality.
That's one thing I envy about the muslims, they don't F around. Your tried, your convicted, your dead. Or you hand is cut off or your eye is poken out. There is no messin around there. It's a tooth for a tooth and an eye for an eye the old Biblical way. ----------------------- Grammar, mechanics, punctuation, spelling, diction, effectiveness in the science, and larger elements are the facts at hand.
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Amason
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RE: Saddam
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December 31, 2006
2:45:03 AM
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Ok, this is turning into a rediculous mess. He's gone and that's all there is to it.  I'm outta here. ----------------------- --Am
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Kairo
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RE: Saddam
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December 31, 2006
11:02:38 AM
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Oh look, another worthless topic just like "Iran then Iraq" or "The end of life as we know it" were, and it will probably end up the same way as those-a pointless bickering fight over politics and religion which everyone will hate except those enthralled with it. So instead of wasting more comnet space, just talk about it on IRC... ----------------------- Sergeant First Class Kairo
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You may forget the past, but it will always haunt your future.
Men can die, but a symbol is eternal.
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D'har Leth
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RE: Saddam
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December 31, 2006
12:04:16 AM
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Kairo is right, we don't need to argue. I started this topic to inform people, nothing more.
"'No brothers, we must unite against the common enemy-'
'The Judean Peoples Front!'
'No, no, the Romans.'
'Oh right, yeah.'"
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RE: Saddam
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December 31, 2006
12:04:37 AM
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Ah, you're no fun Kai-man. :P ----------------------- *DarkDragoons*
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Rayden Shiong
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RE: Saddam
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December 31, 2006
3:57:43 PM
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@Jellybean:
1. Don't use capps, it just makes you look like a loudmouth.
2. Do you honestly believe that Amerian governemnt had NO say in the matter? Please.
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Jelly Bean
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RE: Saddam
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December 31, 2006
4:35:26 PM
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I did that with caps to empahsis on it yes we captured him but no it was his own people that porsecuted him ----------------------- EclipseSquad
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Than Sion
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RE: Saddam
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December 31, 2006
4:42:26 PM
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The world is a little bit better place now, well that is more of what happened when America liberated Iraq from Saddam. His death was carried out by his own people, a tribute to the change in Iraq's government.
About the American bombing of Japan, I totally agree that it was wrong. Civilians shouldn't be targeted in an act of war. But to take the view of my grandfather's generation, it was either that or a bloody land battle that thousands of American soldiers would have died in. To put it into a nut shell, better Japanese dead than our own. It sounds harsh, but I am pretty sure that Imperial Japan would have done the same thing if they were in that situation; actually, any country probably would. Plus there was the fact that Saddam wasn't waging war with the people that he was killing, pretty important detail. Again I would like to say it was a horrible act and that it was wrong by any moral status.
To look at it another way, Imperial Japan did target civilians too. They sent these balloons loaded with bombs over here via the jet stream. Not any where near as destructive as two atomic bombs, but same intent.
You would have to be hard pressed to say I said anything racist above. I even mentioned the WWII Japanese Government as "Imperial" to disassociate it from Japan's modern government.
P.S. By the way, anybody who says "why doesn't everybody nuke each other instead of sending in troops, you said that any country would do it" should think about how the situation has changed. America was the only one with an Atomic Bomb at that point in time. Today if you launch one, they all launch. ----------------------- EFL/WO1 Than Sion/Kaph 5/Wing 1/mSSD Atrus/DEF/VEN/VE(=A=)(=*SA*=)(=TE=)[LoM][VC:B][CBV][MC:1][SWC]{VB}
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Cosmic
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RE: Saddam
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December 31, 2006
5:38:51 PM
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I'm against the death penalty, but that's just me.
I would rather have him have a life sentence in prison. ----------------------- Cleric "Cosmic" Vor'soth
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Sandwich Sam
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RE: Saddam
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December 31, 2006
6:12:51 PM
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I have yet to see the 'punishment' in death. It is like suspension from school.
"You have done bad things here. You are not allowed to return to school for x amount of days!!" yells Principal So and So.
"Ok, I didn't wanna come here anyhow," thinks suspended student.
Servitude for life in a small, cold, dark and damp, prison cell would be infinitely more painful, both emotionally and probably physically. That is really all there is to it.
I guess I'll leave it at that. ----------------------- *DarkDragoons*
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Than Sion
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RE: Saddam
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December 31, 2006
6:24:51 PM
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Think of the Death Penalty as more of a warning, "you go out and kill innocent people and we will kill you." Most humans are afraid of being killed.
I guess it wouldn't work for the extremists considering that fact that they are willing to die for their misled cause, but it also doesn't allow for them to pull something that ends with Saddam being sprung from the slammer. ----------------------- EFL/WO1 Than Sion/Kaph 5/Wing 1/mSSD Atrus/DEF/VEN/VE(=A=)(=*SA*=)(=TE=)[LoM][VC:B][CBV][MC:1][SWC]{VB}
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RE: Saddam
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December 31, 2006
6:41:13 PM
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How are you better than him? You are still ending a life. ----------------------- Corporal Yillis
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RE: Saddam
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December 31, 2006
6:44:32 PM
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Think of it in one way. I dont know if this appliees but...
You need to sacrifice one (or execute...) to save thousands.
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Than Sion
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RE: Saddam
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December 31, 2006
7:14:59 PM
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Can't answer that with any facts, it is purely philosophical opinion at this point. I just believe it isn't a crime to put to death those that have committed crimes great enough. ----------------------- EFL/WO1 Than Sion/Kaph 5/Wing 1/mSSD Atrus/DEF/VEN/VE(=A=)(=*SA*=)(=TE=)[LoM][VC:B][CBV][MC:1][SWC]{VB}
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Sniping101
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RE: Saddam
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December 31, 2006
7:18:31 PM
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You've moved from murder to human sacrifice, which i think might actually be an uglier word, definately connotates something more depraved and primal.
I'm going to put it simply.
No one has the right to take the life of another for any reason. Doesn't matter who it is or why. ----------------------- {Comnet Hermit}
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Than Sion
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RE: Saddam
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December 31, 2006
7:25:10 PM
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So you are claiming that soldiers are all in the wrong? ----------------------- EFL/WO1 Than Sion/Kaph 5/Wing 1/mSSD Atrus/DEF/VEN/VE(=A=)(=*SA*=)(=TE=)[LoM][VC:B][CBV][MC:1][SWC]{VB}
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Shazam
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RE: Saddam
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December 31, 2006
7:45:53 PM
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I suppose you could say that some men were punished because of their actions in the dropping of the atomic bomb on Hiroshima- Claude Eatherly was in and out of phsyciatric hospitals for the rest of his life, made various suicide attempts and it's said numerous others had similar problems- a massive number of Americans were not happy with the dropping of the weapon and their was national sympathy; this genocide could be compared to others. If you want to talk about genocide and what punishment is provoked by it, perhaps you should look at it from the side of those who were affected as well as the motivations behind the action. I have little opinion myself about Saddam Hussein, but I agree with Cosmic- something tells me a less dramatic decision would have quelled rather than thrilled.
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Sniping101
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RE: Saddam
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December 31, 2006
9:05:01 PM
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Hrm, am I saying soldiers are all in the wrong? No, not entirely. That's something that has to be judged on a person to person basis, I can't say someone is all wrong without knowing them. And yes, there are people i think are scum and i don't believe have as much right to live as my dog. I am an apathetic ass. But I don't make that kind of decision about someone without knowing them fairly well. And i prefer not to make generalizations.
So, the soldiers may not be all wrong, but the reason behind soldiers as an idea is. However, there will always be soldiers and there will always be wars. It's as much a fact as gravity. So whether anyone has the right to take another's life or not comes around to being irrelevant.
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Whats done is done. ----------------------- {Comnet Hermit}
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Merrick
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RE: Saddam
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December 31, 2006
10:45:32 PM
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As far as I am concerned, he was convited of a crime and the punishment that goes with it. The US and Australia can bitch about a miscarriage of justice all they like, but they would be up in arms if another country were to try to deny us our right to a legal punishment here. The way I see it, they did what was right by their justice system.
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Arturus
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RE: Saddam
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December 31, 2006
11:26:37 PM
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First of all, he was executed after only one set of charges. There are still cases pending against him so many have been denied the opportunity to face him in court and have him convicted in person on other counts. In particular, the Kurds who suffered enormously under him have been robbed of their day in court to face the man who terrorized them. A tremendous chance at justice was lost.
On a moral level, I can not for the life of my justify the death penalty in any circumstance. How is the world better now than it was a week ago when he was in jail and still had no power? His followers will now treat him as a martyr, we've actually potentially increased his importance and symbolism. How was that positive I wonder?
In the end, I do not see how punishing one crime with another is justice. In an enlightened liberal society, how can we accept this blatent moral hypocrisy? The justice system of a liberal democratic country should be based on moral superiority not moral equivalence. It's the quick and simply solution just to say kill him and be over with it. However, it is hardly the right one. ----------------------- WADJ, SPAC/2LT Corran "Arturus" Hargraves/SCR Doashim/VE/VEN/(=A=)(=SA=)(=*MA*=)(=JCPA=)(=SCPA=)[MC:1](x2)[SV][BRC][VC:B][CBV][LSM][LoC][BWC][SWC][GWC]
"The way of war is a way of deception. When able, feign inability; when deploying troops, appear not to be. When near, appear far; when far, appear near. Lure with bait; strike with chaos. If the enemy is full, be prepared. If strong, avoid him. If he is angry, disconcert him. If he is weak, stir him to pride. If he is relaxed, harry him; if his men are harmonious, split them. Attack where he is unprepared; appear where you are unexpected. This is victory in warfare; it cannot be divulged in advance. Victory belongs to the side that scores most in the temple calculations before battle. Most spells victory; least spells defeat; none, surer defeat. I see it in this way, and the outcome is apparent." -- Sun Tzu
"Ultimate excellence lies not in winning every battle but in defeating the enemy without ever fighting." -- Sun Tzu
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