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  Where's arturus when you need him?
January 24, 2006 7:26:17 AM    View the profile of Liquid 
Canada has gone conservative, and I forget if that pisses him off, or makes him happy. Here's to hoping it pisses him off, though.
 
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January 24, 2006 11:57:24 AM    View the profile of chipmunk man 
Liquid, where in heck have you been? JMac, Reed and I have been wondering where you disapeared to for some time now...
 
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January 24, 2006 12:00:21 AM    View the profile of Liquid 
I've been off dealing with life. Finally got a full time permanent position at the state now, and I get paid to type messages to the likes of you :P.
 
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January 24, 2006 5:35:34 PM    View the profile of Talon 
Oh, it does indeed piss him off.


 
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January 24, 2006 6:33:49 PM    View the profile of Angel 

 
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January 24, 2006 8:21:48 PM    View the profile of Arturus 
Ya ya ya.  I know.  We lost

However, time for a lesson in Canadian politics.  The final outcome was 124-103 for the Conservatives.  Considering the fact that our party was dealing with a scandal left by the former leader, had a leader that was a major disappointment, ran a terrible campaign with one very ridiculous ad that never ran but still got attention, and had an RCMP investigation begin into insider trading possibly caused by a leak from the finance minister, I think we did very well.  One would think this would have decimated our party, it did not.  In reality, this is a disappointment for the Conservatives and a major relief for the Liberals.

Now for the stats:

64% of Canadians voted for left-wing parties.  The House of Commons is comprised of 124 Conservative seats and 183 left-wing seats (Liberals, New Democrats, and Bloc Quebecois).  A shock jock from Quebec who I swear is insane usurped a Quebec City seat from the Bloc.  He's shall we say slightly colourful in an off-colour sort of way.


So in the end, I am not all that upset.  This gives our party a chance to end its 16 year internal civil war, have a policy convention, and unite behind a new leader.  Interestingly enough, that new leader could very well be our current ambassador to the US.  Right now he's seen as the main challenger although there are at least twelve federal candidates mentionned at the moment.  There could also be a few provincial ones from Ontario so it should be interesting.  Safe to say I'll be busy.

Oh and by the way, don't think that this means our government will be more pro-US.  With the Conservatives facing a stacked House of left-wing parties they will be tied down badly.  The Conservatives who are dominated by the old Reform/Canadian Alliance Party has roots as a western populist party.  This means that they have persistently lobbied for making motions in parliament mean something for the government.  Now the opposition will be able to put motion after motion against Conservative foreign policy items.  In reality, the Conservatives won but they are held hostage by the left   Only on the issues of decentralization and electoral reform will they find common support with some parties.  The Bloc Quebecois supports decentralization while the New Democratic Party supports electoral reform.


It should be interesting.  Within 2 years we'll be having another election and the Liberals will be back in office.  We are the natural governing party after all

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  RE: Where's arturus when you need him?
January 25, 2006 5:40:55 AM    View the profile of Yillis 
wow....
 
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January 25, 2006 9:16:54 AM    View the profile of Darr-Rann 
/me nods. Right now the conservatives are in trouble, because they did not get the majority they were seeking. If they try to do anything the left-wing parties do not agree with, they could be outvoted and we could be back at the polls. Heh, as a note of intrest, Peter Mackay only beat Alexis Macdonald by about 3000 votes, in my riding. I guess that'll teach him to be careful of what he says next time.
 
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January 25, 2006 2:14:59 PM    View the profile of Zafo 
NDP.

That's who I would have liked to see win.

Too bad everyones afriad of change.

But yeah, at least it's a minority and them conservatives won't be able to pull off any dramatic changes.

Steven Harper makes me want to break things with that godamn never-ending smirk of his.

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January 25, 2006 2:21:55 PM    View the profile of Jakireth 
*shakes his fist*
Why would anyone mention politics around Art? It's suicide...good god man, did you see his explanation?
 
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January 25, 2006 4:33:06 PM    View the profile of Yillis 
Stephen Harper can throw a mean snowball though.
 
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January 25, 2006 8:37:14 PM    View the profile of Sniping101 
http://www.livescience.com/othernews/060124_political_decisions.html.
 
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January 25, 2006 11:03:50 PM    View the profile of Talon 
Yeah.. I stopped reading after his frown.
 
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January 26, 2006 3:35:57 PM    View the profile of Arturus 
"Why would anyone mention politics around Art? It's suicide...good god man, did you see his explanation?"

What did you expect? :P  I'm a partisan hack and will be pursuing a Ph.D in Canadian Political Studies.
 
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"The way of war is a way of deception. When able, feign inability; when deploying troops, appear not to be. When near, appear far; when far, appear near. Lure with bait; strike with chaos. If the enemy is full, be prepared. If strong, avoid him. If he is angry, disconcert him. If he is weak, stir him to pride. If he is relaxed, harry him; if his men are harmonious, split them. Attack where he is unprepared; appear where you are unexpected. This is victory in warfare; it cannot be divulged in advance. Victory belongs to the side that scores most in the temple calculations before battle. Most spells victory; least spells defeat; none, surer defeat. I see it in this way, and the outcome is apparent." -- Sun Tzu

"Ultimate excellence lies not in winning every battle but in defeating the enemy without ever fighting." -- Sun Tzu
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January 26, 2006 7:09:09 PM    View the profile of Talon 
Wow.. sounds as useless as a Liberal Arts degree. (sorry to anyone who wasted their college education on one.. but try to tell me it's not true.)
 
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January 26, 2006 8:25:32 PM    View the profile of Angel 
heh. Liberal Arts.
 
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January 26, 2006 8:31:14 PM    View the profile of Arturus 
If you aspire to be a professor or a civil servant then no its not.  It is actually quite useful and quite fun.  The pay isn't terrible either.
 
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"Ultimate excellence lies not in winning every battle but in defeating the enemy without ever fighting." -- Sun Tzu
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January 26, 2006 9:47:09 PM    View the profile of Angel 
A couple jokes the students around the Chemical Engineering Department like to say:

Q: What's the more worthless than a liberal arts degree?

A: A liberal arts PhD

Q: What's the most common question a liberal arts major asks?

A: You want fries with that?
 
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January 26, 2006 10:31:32 PM    View the profile of Japheth 
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January 27, 2006 9:43:38 AM    View the profile of Fury 
Hell, I've got a LAS degree in teaching.

Which might explain why I always have to train our new idiot techs at work.

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January 27, 2006 12:42:11 AM    View the profile of Arturus 
I'll have to look into what comprises of a Liberal Arts degree so I won't cast judgement on it (it must be more useful than a philosophy major).

What I am doing is much more specialized than that and is designed for three fields of employment: professor, government, political parties.  Works for me.
 
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"Ultimate excellence lies not in winning every battle but in defeating the enemy without ever fighting." -- Sun Tzu
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January 28, 2006 4:30:22 AM    View the profile of Raziel 
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