Willtconq
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RE: Tuk'ata Topic
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April 12, 2010
3:32:30 PM
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a little suggestion... Have the Tuk'ata's head fill to the bottom of the inside empty space, then wipe away the sections overlapped by the bottom two red spokes. The head should then appear to have poked through the imperial emblem rather than looking like it was chopped off its body and pinned to the imperial emblem. ...Didn't think you guys liked my Kaph insignia that much.
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RE: Tuk'ata Topic
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April 12, 2010
5:42:12 PM
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Amacuse's Tuk'ata fits a lot better, since the bottom edge is curved rather than straight- as Will pointed out. Also, the clear background just looks bad...for example, try the green comnet skin. It looks like a Christmas ornament.  I say no to clear backgrounds anywhere.
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RE: Tuk'ata Topic
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April 12, 2010
7:40:01 PM
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RE: Tuk'ata Topic
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April 12, 2010
7:48:13 PM
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RE: Tuk'ata Topic
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April 12, 2010
7:54:03 PM
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give him some time to edit his version a bit before putting it up to a vote would ya? you had all day to improve on yours.
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RE: Tuk'ata Topic
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April 12, 2010
8:10:40 PM
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alright, alright... I'll wait...
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RE: Tuk'ata Topic
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April 12, 2010
8:27:29 PM
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Drac, besides on the comnet, the only real place you'd find it is in stories, and that doesn't really count. So... I agree with Driver, Hunter's is the best (No offence to you Amacuse) But, I do, however, agree with you that it would look better with the Tuk'ata behind the symbols... We are Imperials before anything else anyways, so why not reflect that in our emblem?
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RE: Tuk'ata Topic
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April 12, 2010
8:48:31 PM
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I don't think I said anything about putting it behind the symbol, just about cleaning up the bottom edge. Also, the crest will appear on the wiki and in several other places- it makes a lot more sense to have a consistent background.
You may disagree about the importance of this part, but the crest will likely be referenced from time to time ICly. A clear background will promote a lot of confusion about the true colors of the patch. And who ever heard of a military unit whose patch's background varies depending on what it's put on?
Btw, I thought you were the one who wasn't a big fan of all the red?
That gives me an idea, though...Amacuse, think you could invert the red/black on yours to give the squadron another choice to pick from?
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RE: Tuk'ata Topic
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April 12, 2010
9:00:28 PM
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I swear... I thought I was done... guess not... 
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RE: Tuk'ata Topic
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April 12, 2010
9:14:15 PM
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I think that, once cleaned up, could be the best of both worlds. It's consistent, but the red's no longer so dominant.
-Drac
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RE: Tuk'ata Topic
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April 12, 2010
9:44:23 PM
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What about this?  
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RE: Tuk'ata Topic
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April 12, 2010
9:47:52 PM
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I like the fixed head.... but the black background took away the border which looked good... So i'd suggest another color, perhaps dark gray for border or background.
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RE: Tuk'ata Topic
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April 12, 2010
10:04:22 PM
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Revised . . . again  
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RE: Tuk'ata Topic
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April 12, 2010
10:25:46 PM
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Back to black, man. That color scheme doesn't look good at all. Besides, the squadron colors are red and black/dark grey aren't they? Better to keep those represented.
This version of the Tuk'ata head is amazing, though. Very easily the best yet.
-Drac
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Willtconq
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RE: Tuk'ata Topic
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April 12, 2010
11:45:57 PM
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the black border makes the head stand out from the imperial emblem. try adding the black border on the second one to the first one?
Also, due to the red's influence, the gray looks brownish, which could be the reason why it doesn't look as great. The addition of a black border may fix that, if not, try a darker gray.
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RE: Tuk'ata Topic
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April 12, 2010
11:53:10 PM
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I'd suggest using a darker grey... yes, now I'm helping the competition... I'm also still working on my next one... but anyway, darker grey... even on the first one, it still looks brown to me
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RE: Tuk'ata Topic
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April 13, 2010
9:21:06 AM
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*nods* That's what I was getting at too. Makes it look either brown or really washed out.
-Drac
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RE: Tuk'ata Topic
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April 13, 2010
12:50:34 AM
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That best not be garnet :P
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RE: Tuk'ata Topic
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April 13, 2010
2:07:06 PM
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it's kinda hard to differentiate. red is the generic term and garnet is the specific term... but they mean two pretty close colors :S
which was why i tried to get them to pick a different color scheme than Kaph's in the first place... and now even their insignia looks like it was derived from Kaph... meh.
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RE: Tuk'ata Topic
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April 13, 2010
2:35:44 PM
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But the squadron is Nazgul's heir if it's the heir of any specific squadron. As we've been saying on IRC: "And they cried out with the voices of (Loyal Beyond) Death."
There may be some Kaph influence, since Hunter used to be a Kaph, but it's not much. The colors just work well with the squadron's name and the crest was designed by a Nazzie (I actually had to go take a look on the wiki when you first said that, Will. I'd never seen Kaph's crest before.). If anything, both squadrons took inspiration for their crests from Rogue Squadron's.
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RE: Tuk'ata Topic
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April 13, 2010
2:48:57 PM
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Indeed, but guess who the credit goes to for first saying that?
Anyways, if there was a way to make more Nazgul-like, I'm pretty sure it would of already been implemented.
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Willtconq
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RE: Tuk'ata Topic
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April 13, 2010
5:04:31 PM
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I have no clue what that damned rebel squadron's insignia looks like. :P
But I know i didn't look at it a single time when i made Kaph's.
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April 13, 2010
5:09:01 PM
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Hmm...thought you'd be more wary than that, Will. We want to be able to know who they are and call in a couple of wings for reinforcement -or just run- if we do happen to run into the Rogues, after all.
-Drac
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RE: Tuk'ata Topic
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April 13, 2010
5:28:31 PM
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Didn't know we were that good to have Rogue Squadron sent after us  I'd be quite honored.
But in all honesty, I know who they are, just don't remember their emblem.
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RE: Tuk'ata Topic
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April 13, 2010
7:04:19 PM
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Personally I like the version with less TIE fighters. Both look great, but that just seems to strike me as more appealing, although I like the colour scheme of the one you have, Amacuse. I just think that 8 fighters works better than 6. If I still had Photoshop I might throw out an attempt, but I don't...
From the looks of the story, most people have gotten bored with it, it seems. If that's the case I think I might write myself out of it and work on a personal story until the new one is up, but I'm not sure yet.
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RE: Tuk'ata Topic
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April 13, 2010
7:39:00 PM
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I should be getting the new story up . . . soon. Dunno when
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RE: Tuk'ata Topic
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April 13, 2010
9:39:03 PM
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If we finish Rhen Vhar, then the main story should progress well since then I could post on it.
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RE: Tuk'ata Topic
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April 13, 2010
10:51:30 PM
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Stewart is right... once we... meaning, once Stewart makes a story post so it can get moving again... finish the Rhen Var story, it should pick back up.
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April 14, 2010
1:14:08 AM
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Pardon the double post, but... I have 4 more selections for the emblem competition. I decided to throw out the Imperial insignia due to the sheer unimportance of it. I mean, we all know we're Imperials, and everyone else does thanks to our uniforms, so... having the Imperial insignia on our emblem seems redundant to me. EDIT: And... I got tired of the circle... too much like Rogue Squadron... and Kaph apparently...     Yes, all I really did was change the colors in them... mainly, I did it to see if you all liked that color combination, and which format with it. If you want to see a grey background pair... I'll get those up tomorrow!
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April 14, 2010
1:29:10 AM
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Again I'm gonna say
Take a look at your image quality.
If it was sharp and clear, it might be pleasant to look at your design.
You have some good ideas, but using bad image qualities in them ruins the design.
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