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Diplomacy Night
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November 11, 2006
2:17:06 PM
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I can up with a great idea that I hope I can sell here. The board game Diplomacy is an enormous entertaining game that is played with 7 people. It can be played in person or over the internet as long as everyone is on. Interaction and negotiation are the name of the game and while time consuming it is both intense and fun. I thought if enough people were interested we could organize a weekly diplomacy night to play.
http://www.wizards.com/avalonhill/rules/diplomacy.pdf
That is the 4th edition rule manual for the game. I have found an adjudication programme that I will use to run the game with me sending out the file to everyone after each session's orders are complete. Once we get enough people I will lay out some house rules to make it easier to play online.
If you want to practice the mechanics of the game (and the programme I use to run it) download this:
http://jdip.sourceforge.net/
In order to run it you can kick and drag but preferably use it to work out strategies and practice writing orders in the correct format. For example, I'll give you a sample list of first turn orders (I'll just use very simple strategies simply so you see the mechanics). I will point out that the mechanics are secondary, being able to move skillfully only works if you are an equally skillful negotiator and diplomat. The negotiations sessions are where the game is played, the board simply demonstrates the results as you head towards victory.
Sping 1901:
Austria:
A Bud-Ser
A Vie-Bud
F Tri Hold
England:
F Lon-Nth
F Edi-Nwg
A Lvp-Yor
France:
F Bre-Pic
A Par-Bur
A Mar-Spa
Germany:
A Mun-Ruh
F Kie-Den
A Ber-Kie
Italy:
A Ven-Tyr
A Rom-Ven
F Nap-Tys
Russia:
F Sev-Bla
F Stp/sc-Bot
A Mos-Stp
A War-Gal
Turkey:
A Smy-Con
A Con-Bul
F Ank-Bla ----------------------- WADJ, SPAC/2LT Corran "Arturus" Hargraves/SCR Doashim/VE/VEN/(=A=)(=SA=)(=*MA*=)(=JCPA=)(=SCPA=)[MC:1](x2)[SV][BRC][VC:B][CBV][GWC][LSM][LoC]
"The way of war is a way of deception. When able, feign inability; when deploying troops, appear not to be. When near, appear far; when far, appear near. Lure with bait; strike with chaos. If the enemy is full, be prepared. If strong, avoid him. If he is angry, disconcert him. If he is weak, stir him to pride. If he is relaxed, harry him; if his men are harmonious, split them. Attack where he is unprepared; appear where you are unexpected. This is victory in warfare; it cannot be divulged in advance. Victory belongs to the side that scores most in the temple calculations before battle. Most spells victory; least spells defeat; none, surer defeat. I see it in this way, and the outcome is apparent." -- Sun Tzu
"Ultimate excellence lies not in winning every battle but in defeating the enemy without ever fighting." -- Sun Tzu
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RE: Diplomacy Night
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November 11, 2006
4:35:46 PM
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I'm in. ----------------------- EclipseSquad
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RE: Diplomacy Night
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November 11, 2006
6:58:58 PM
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As we said on IRC , count me in ----------------------- In the brightest light,
We find darkness...
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RE: Diplomacy Night
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November 11, 2006
10:15:10 PM
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Well then get reading!
What times are you available to play? ----------------------- WADJ, SPAC/2LT Corran "Arturus" Hargraves/SCR Doashim/VE/VEN/(=A=)(=SA=)(=*MA*=)(=JCPA=)(=SCPA=)[MC:1](x2)[SV][BRC][VC:B][CBV][GWC][LSM][LoC]
"The way of war is a way of deception. When able, feign inability; when deploying troops, appear not to be. When near, appear far; when far, appear near. Lure with bait; strike with chaos. If the enemy is full, be prepared. If strong, avoid him. If he is angry, disconcert him. If he is weak, stir him to pride. If he is relaxed, harry him; if his men are harmonious, split them. Attack where he is unprepared; appear where you are unexpected. This is victory in warfare; it cannot be divulged in advance. Victory belongs to the side that scores most in the temple calculations before battle. Most spells victory; least spells defeat; none, surer defeat. I see it in this way, and the outcome is apparent." -- Sun Tzu
"Ultimate excellence lies not in winning every battle but in defeating the enemy without ever fighting." -- Sun Tzu
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RE: Diplomacy Night
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November 11, 2006
10:42:42 PM
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Sounds fun. I'm in. ----------------------- DarkDragoons
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RE: Diplomacy Night
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November 11, 2006
10:45:58 PM
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Seeing as I'm on IRC most of the time, I have a flexible schedule = )... it depends on other people ----------------------- In the brightest light,
We find darkness...
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RE: Diplomacy Night
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November 11, 2006
11:00:00 PM
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Excellent, that's 4. We need 3 more. ----------------------- WADJ, SPAC/2LT Corran "Arturus" Hargraves/SCR Doashim/VE/VEN/(=A=)(=SA=)(=*MA*=)(=JCPA=)(=SCPA=)[MC:1](x2)[SV][BRC][VC:B][CBV][GWC][LSM][LoC]
"The way of war is a way of deception. When able, feign inability; when deploying troops, appear not to be. When near, appear far; when far, appear near. Lure with bait; strike with chaos. If the enemy is full, be prepared. If strong, avoid him. If he is angry, disconcert him. If he is weak, stir him to pride. If he is relaxed, harry him; if his men are harmonious, split them. Attack where he is unprepared; appear where you are unexpected. This is victory in warfare; it cannot be divulged in advance. Victory belongs to the side that scores most in the temple calculations before battle. Most spells victory; least spells defeat; none, surer defeat. I see it in this way, and the outcome is apparent." -- Sun Tzu
"Ultimate excellence lies not in winning every battle but in defeating the enemy without ever fighting." -- Sun Tzu
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RE: Diplomacy Night
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November 11, 2006
11:03:36 PM
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I want to play. My schedule is rough, but im interested in playing.
I cant get that pdf file, either (keeps freezing up on me). Garet, mind sending it over on aim? ----------------------- Raiders
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RE: Diplomacy Night
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November 11, 2006
11:50:36 PM
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If I can download it, I can try, Aph.
And I'm good anytime between 4-10. ----------------------- EclipseSquad
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Life is for the strong, to be lived by the strong, and, if needs be, taken by the strong. The weak of the world were put here to give the strong pleasure. I am strong. Why should I not use my gift?
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RE: Diplomacy Night
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November 12, 2006
8:13:32 AM
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The file is 2.2MB so give it time to download. I can send it over messenger if you need. ----------------------- WADJ, SPAC/2LT Corran "Arturus" Hargraves/SCR Doashim/VE/VEN/(=A=)(=SA=)(=*MA*=)(=JCPA=)(=SCPA=)[MC:1](x2)[SV][BRC][VC:B][CBV][GWC][LSM][LoC]
"The way of war is a way of deception. When able, feign inability; when deploying troops, appear not to be. When near, appear far; when far, appear near. Lure with bait; strike with chaos. If the enemy is full, be prepared. If strong, avoid him. If he is angry, disconcert him. If he is weak, stir him to pride. If he is relaxed, harry him; if his men are harmonious, split them. Attack where he is unprepared; appear where you are unexpected. This is victory in warfare; it cannot be divulged in advance. Victory belongs to the side that scores most in the temple calculations before battle. Most spells victory; least spells defeat; none, surer defeat. I see it in this way, and the outcome is apparent." -- Sun Tzu
"Ultimate excellence lies not in winning every battle but in defeating the enemy without ever fighting." -- Sun Tzu
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RE: Diplomacy Night
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November 12, 2006
8:53:41 AM
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Well I got both working, and i would suggest friday nights since that is usually most conveniant. I don't think i h ave a stable schedule for weekends( I might be on sometimes, other times i wont.) ----------------------- In the brightest light,
We find darkness...
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RE: Diplomacy Night
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November 12, 2006
11:19:54 AM
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Yes I agree. If people want I can run tutorial games whever they ask. We can do it with less than 7 (a real game isn't as fun without 7 but tutorials will work fine with that). ----------------------- WADJ, SPAC/2LT Corran "Arturus" Hargraves/SCR Doashim/VE/VEN/(=A=)(=SA=)(=*MA*=)(=JCPA=)(=SCPA=)[MC:1](x2)[SV][BRC][VC:B][CBV][GWC][LSM][LoC]
"The way of war is a way of deception. When able, feign inability; when deploying troops, appear not to be. When near, appear far; when far, appear near. Lure with bait; strike with chaos. If the enemy is full, be prepared. If strong, avoid him. If he is angry, disconcert him. If he is weak, stir him to pride. If he is relaxed, harry him; if his men are harmonious, split them. Attack where he is unprepared; appear where you are unexpected. This is victory in warfare; it cannot be divulged in advance. Victory belongs to the side that scores most in the temple calculations before battle. Most spells victory; least spells defeat; none, surer defeat. I see it in this way, and the outcome is apparent." -- Sun Tzu
"Ultimate excellence lies not in winning every battle but in defeating the enemy without ever fighting." -- Sun Tzu
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RE: Diplomacy Night
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November 12, 2006
1:15:42 PM
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friday night eh? well Kaph meeting's at 9pm EST, i'm usually good afterwards. ----------------------- -(William the Conquerer)-
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RE: Diplomacy Night
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November 12, 2006
2:00:22 PM
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I'm good any time. ----------------------- DarkDragoons
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RE: Diplomacy Night
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November 12, 2006
3:14:40 PM
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I'd join, but I don't know how to play ----------------------- Raiders
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RE: Diplomacy Night
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November 12, 2006
3:18:43 PM
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None of us do, cept art, so join darr = ) we neeeeed you ----------------------- In the brightest light,
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RE: Diplomacy Night
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November 12, 2006
6:25:11 PM
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I'll play ----------------------- Private First Class D'har Leth
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RE: Diplomacy Night
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November 12, 2006
6:31:20 PM
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So now we have what, 6 people? If Darr joins then 7 ----------------------- In the brightest light,
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RE: Diplomacy Night
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November 12, 2006
8:05:07 PM
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Shall we plan our first night for next Friday then say at 8pm est? It would be a tutorial night.
Also, for our first night, we need to figure out who will play as who. All who are interested pick a number between 1 and 6 (obvious as people post numbers will be eliminated). I say 6 because I will take either Austria or Italy (the two hardest nations to play as) in the tutorial. Therefore, 5 of the numbers will be tied to a nation and the 6th to a choice between Austria and Italy.
1. Turkey - Garet
2. Italy - Sandwich Sam
3. Willtconq - Germany
4. Aphamos - Russia
5. Tnepres - England
6. Darr-Ran - France
7. Arturus - Austria-Hungary
Happy picking.
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"The way of war is a way of deception. When able, feign inability; when deploying troops, appear not to be. When near, appear far; when far, appear near. Lure with bait; strike with chaos. If the enemy is full, be prepared. If strong, avoid him. If he is angry, disconcert him. If he is weak, stir him to pride. If he is relaxed, harry him; if his men are harmonious, split them. Attack where he is unprepared; appear where you are unexpected. This is victory in warfare; it cannot be divulged in advance. Victory belongs to the side that scores most in the temple calculations before battle. Most spells victory; least spells defeat; none, surer defeat. I see it in this way, and the outcome is apparent." -- Sun Tzu
"Ultimate excellence lies not in winning every battle but in defeating the enemy without ever fighting." -- Sun Tzu
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RE: Diplomacy Night
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November 12, 2006
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5 ----------------------- In the brightest light,
We find darkness...
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RE: Diplomacy Night
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November 12, 2006
8:09:36 PM
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4 pretty please. ----------------------- Raiders
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RE: Diplomacy Night
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November 12, 2006
8:31:32 PM
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I'll take 2 ----------------------- DarkDragoons
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RE: Diplomacy Night
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November 12, 2006
10:41:53 PM
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3, i'll reserve one, but if i don't get there in time, whoever's left without a number can play in my place. I usually get home around 8. ----------------------- -(William the Conquerer)-
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RE: Diplomacy Night
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November 12, 2006
10:51:44 PM
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I'll take one of the left overs Art. ----------------------- TRP/PFC Preditor/3SQD/1PLT/1COM/1RGT/1BAT/VEA/VE/Tadath
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RE: Diplomacy Night
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November 12, 2006
11:25:56 PM
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El numero uno. ----------------------- EclipseSquad
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RE: Diplomacy Night
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November 12, 2006
11:57:07 PM
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Six, if the spot is still open ----------------------- Raiders
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RE: Diplomacy Night
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November 13, 2006
6:53:18 AM
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Alright the roster is now full. Look up for which nations you are for the tutorial (I know Garet will be happy).
Sam, do you want Austria or Italy? ----------------------- WADJ, SPAC/2LT Corran "Arturus" Hargraves/SCR Doashim/VE/VEN/(=A=)(=SA=)(=*MA*=)(=JCPA=)(=SCPA=)[MC:1](x2)[SV][BRC][VC:B][CBV][LSM][LoC][BWC][SWC][GWC]
"The way of war is a way of deception. When able, feign inability; when deploying troops, appear not to be. When near, appear far; when far, appear near. Lure with bait; strike with chaos. If the enemy is full, be prepared. If strong, avoid him. If he is angry, disconcert him. If he is weak, stir him to pride. If he is relaxed, harry him; if his men are harmonious, split them. Attack where he is unprepared; appear where you are unexpected. This is victory in warfare; it cannot be divulged in advance. Victory belongs to the side that scores most in the temple calculations before battle. Most spells victory; least spells defeat; none, surer defeat. I see it in this way, and the outcome is apparent." -- Sun Tzu
"Ultimate excellence lies not in winning every battle but in defeating the enemy without ever fighting." -- Sun Tzu
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RE: Diplomacy Night
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November 13, 2006
9:48:33 AM
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If others are interested please let me know, I can run more than one tutorial. Also, maybe not everyone will play every night so we will always be changing up (otherwise people get bored). The more the merrier ----------------------- WADJ, SPAC/2LT Corran "Arturus" Hargraves/SCR Doashim/VE/VEN/(=A=)(=SA=)(=*MA*=)(=JCPA=)(=SCPA=)[MC:1](x2)[SV][BRC][VC:B][CBV][LSM][LoC][BWC][SWC][GWC]
"The way of war is a way of deception. When able, feign inability; when deploying troops, appear not to be. When near, appear far; when far, appear near. Lure with bait; strike with chaos. If the enemy is full, be prepared. If strong, avoid him. If he is angry, disconcert him. If he is weak, stir him to pride. If he is relaxed, harry him; if his men are harmonious, split them. Attack where he is unprepared; appear where you are unexpected. This is victory in warfare; it cannot be divulged in advance. Victory belongs to the side that scores most in the temple calculations before battle. Most spells victory; least spells defeat; none, surer defeat. I see it in this way, and the outcome is apparent." -- Sun Tzu
"Ultimate excellence lies not in winning every battle but in defeating the enemy without ever fighting." -- Sun Tzu
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RE: Diplomacy Night
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November 13, 2006
4:13:53 PM
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Erm... I'll be on leave thursday through sunday so I'll miss anything then for sure... ----------------------- In the brightest light,
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RE: Diplomacy Night
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November 13, 2006
4:19:29 PM
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Score! ----------------------- EclipseSquad
SL/GSG Garet Daimun/2SQD/2PLT/1COM/1RGT/1BAT/Tadath/VEA [ES2C] [IH]
Life is for the strong, to be lived by the strong, and, if needs be, taken by the strong. The weak of the world were put here to give the strong pleasure. I am strong. Why should I not use my gift?
-Zaroff, Most Dangerous Game
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