......why? there are no words to describe how I feel about this tradegy.

War is never a good thing other countries have different beliefs in which causing genocide will keep the world clean.


 
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I think war might be God's way of teaching us geography~Paul Rodriguez
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Simple.  Hezbollah uses human shields and Israel stupidly falls into their trap and bombs them anyhow.  Hezbollah is winning this battle and Israel continues to be sucked in.  The more Israel pushes in, the more people join Hezbollah in resistance.  Hezbollah plushed the right buttons and sucked Israel into a war they can't win.
 
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"The way of war is a way of deception. When able, feign inability; when deploying troops, appear not to be. When near, appear far; when far, appear near. Lure with bait; strike with chaos. If the enemy is full, be prepared. If strong, avoid him. If he is angry, disconcert him. If he is weak, stir him to pride. If he is relaxed, harry him; if his men are harmonious, split them. Attack where he is unprepared; appear where you are unexpected. This is victory in warfare; it cannot be divulged in advance. Victory belongs to the side that scores most in the temple calculations before battle. Most spells victory; least spells defeat; none, surer defeat. I see it in this way, and the outcome is apparent." -- Sun Tzu

"Ultimate excellence lies not in winning every battle but in defeating the enemy without ever fighting." -- Sun Tzu

I would have to say that Israel losing would be the worse thing that could happen. Think of it this way. The Hezbollah defeats one of the stronger military groups in the middle east, that would be a huge deal for a terrorist group. Now, guess who backs said military group, the United States. Chances are that Hezbollah would proceed to change its focus to the backers of their enemy.

I hate to say this but the loss of lives that are women and children is just collateral damage in war. I don't like to see that happen but at times it is a necessary evil.

As far as the Hezbollah "sucking Israel into a war they can't win", I would have to say that neither side can win. Theoretically, both sides have nearly unlimited resources because of who is supporting them. The US is suppling Israel with weapons, which in turn is increasing the cash flow to the US. The Hezbollah is being supplied by Syria and Iran. (I may be incorrect about Syria, but I believe that is one of the suppliers of Hezbollah.)

Due to the suppliers of each side, I find that it is highly probable that should a settlement not be reached, then war will continue on for quite some time. During that time huge numbers of civilian casualties will be sustained for both sides and it will eventually cause the direct military forces of the suppliers and not just Hezbollah and Israel.

On another point, about "soldiers...know[ing] the risks before they join." Technically they do, but also civilians know the risks that because their country has different beliefs than their neighbor countries that there is a chance that a war will come. So really it isn't a matter of knowing the risks, but more of how to avoid them, which is nearly impossible. I am certain that the people in the surrounding areas of Lebanon and Israel know that the possibility that a missile could hit near them is high. If they don't then the are clearly sheltered from the events that have gone around them.

The lives of everyone, no matter combatant or non-combatant, should or will be taken lightly. The family who loses a soldier will be in just as much remorse as if the soldier lost his family. In my opinion, there are not levels of remorse when dealing with the loss of a loved one, whether someone loses one or ten, they will be in remorse all the same.

One last point, in my personal opinion, one cannot look at military action from both a military point of view and a moral view. It just doesn't work that way. The military is a beast that only does what it is told to do, whether or not that is what it thinks should be done or how it should be done.
 
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"If I offended anyone by any previous statements, then well it sucks to be you. If I offend anyone with future statements then once again, it sucks to be you. Go cry to someone who cares." - Me

http://www.veofun.com/insane_woman_on_fox_news

i find people like this sick and in need of serious mental help.

Why.....its a question you must ask your self when you watch this.

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I would say that I can't believe waht's going on, but there it is.  There is no right in this conflict.  Hezbollah is wrong because they wage a war based on religion.  Israel is also wrong because they are killing civilians.  No matter what, it's never acceptable to kill civilians in a military conflict.

As for Shirley Phelps Roper, she and her group of heartless zealots need to be stopped.  As I said before, a soldier from my hometown was killed in Afghanistan, and people like that protested his funeral and said the same things.  To be honest, I'm a very level headed person, but when I see people like that, I have this feeling that rises in my body and soul, my adrenaline pumps, and I want blood.  If I saw that woman in a public place, I'd brutally kill her.  I'm not exaggerating, I really would.  It's next to impossible to make me angry, I can be agitated, but to make me angry is a bad idea. 

I'd wish for peace all over the world, but I know that can't happen.
 
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{Official VE Zombie Expert}

The main problem Israel has is more-or-less what we have in Iraq.

We aren't fighting conventional forces. There really ARE no hard military targets.

So who's more to blame? Hizbollah launching a rocket barrage from a residential neighborhood, or the IAF dropping bombs and/or the IDF lobbing shells at the neighborhood in the hopes of taking out the launch platform?

I don't have an answer to that, but I would surprise the former is more disrespectful of the civilians they swear they are defending and the latter is less discrete in it's overwhelming response.

It is a bad scene and those of us on the sidelines, both cheering for death and those concerned about those who coddle - and then get bombed - for encouraging and supporting terror militias, should all take a step back from the emotions and get a reality check.

There are no winners here, just a bunch of saps caught in a no-win situation.  The only possible advantage goes to Hizbollah; they don't have to win anything. Just staying alive makes them champs in many's eyes.

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Administrator - Imperial Center

There's an important distinction to be made.  Al Qaeda and their kind, to use a new common mainstream term, are "islamofascist" organizations.  What they really are are groups on an international jihad to create fundamentalist regimes in the Middle East and end western interference.  Hezbollah is quite different.  It is a resistence organization, not an international jihadist organization.  While Al Qaeda's goal is a fundamentalist Middle East, Hezbollah's is the end of Israeli interference (if not the end of the state itself although this goal is less certain).  They also want political power and are getting it now that they have elected officials in the Lebanese government.  It may engage in terrorist tactics but it is not of the kind of Al Qaeda.  Indeed, the two do not see eye to eye at all (other than the fact that both hate Israel).  Fatwas have been issued against Hezbollah leaders in the past; this is because Hezbollah is a Shia organization while Al Qaeda is a Sunni organization.

Last night on the Daily Show Jon Stewart had a professor on who really explored the Shia-Sunni divisions and the current tensions it is causing.  If you can watch the repeat I highly encourage it (what I stated above came from different sources but some of it was echoed against in last night's programme).

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"The way of war is a way of deception. When able, feign inability; when deploying troops, appear not to be. When near, appear far; when far, appear near. Lure with bait; strike with chaos. If the enemy is full, be prepared. If strong, avoid him. If he is angry, disconcert him. If he is weak, stir him to pride. If he is relaxed, harry him; if his men are harmonious, split them. Attack where he is unprepared; appear where you are unexpected. This is victory in warfare; it cannot be divulged in advance. Victory belongs to the side that scores most in the temple calculations before battle. Most spells victory; least spells defeat; none, surer defeat. I see it in this way, and the outcome is apparent." -- Sun Tzu

"Ultimate excellence lies not in winning every battle but in defeating the enemy without ever fighting." -- Sun Tzu