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Rogue
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  RE: Nazgul Topic
March 16, 2008 2:00:49 PM    View the profile of Rogue 
Yeah, what Trevor said.

But before I go, I posted on the story thread with some more set up for you all. Have fun with it.
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  RE: Nazgul Topic
March 16, 2008 8:16:12 PM    View the profile of Gshlecc 
fyi: no eta for Jeg's return from Spring Break
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  RE: Nazgul Topic
March 16, 2008 11:47:51 PM    View the profile of Shazam 
*Cracks Whip*

Boys and girls, ladies and gents, children of all ages: the journey begins tomorrow.  You'll need a duffel bag, preferably some deodorant, ration packs (processed food is the only way to go these days), probably some synth flesh, some spare bacta and bottle of sundrop.  Anything else will be too heavy- choose your personal items wisely.  In the meantime, pray the wilderness won't take you whilst your commanders are away.

*Salutes*
*Flash Was Here...*

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  RE: Nazgul Topic
March 17, 2008 10:52:37 PM    View the profile of Gshlecc 
I thought you should all see this. This comes from Kaph.

OOC:
To conclude this post, I’d like to make a note on Naval activity as a whole.  All three current squadron stories seem to have the same nature and have all started at about the same time:

Nazgul: 5
Kaph: 11
Viper: 12

Nazgul isn’t much of worry right now.


I'd like to congratulate you all on becoming ignored and relagated to an afterthought.

If this seems harsh it is meant to be.  I know we all have lives, real lives, however this does not mean we ignore the commitments we've made to each other here. I, myself work a 40+hr/wk job, and still i find time to post at least once a week.  When I do they are a minimum of 1000 words.
We all need to dig deep and do what we said we would do, participate. Trevor and Rogue are on much earned R&R.  Do we sit and wait for them to return, or do we do something about it?

In this squadron only 3 people have valid excuses for not posting:
Jeg-on Spring Break, will be back soon, and WILL post-that's what he does.
Rogue and Trev- on leave

Everyone else: Post! 
The following is a list of last posts:
Gingy - 3/1 (Assumed AWOL)
Rusty - 3/9
Roth -3/10 & 11 (great start)
DD - 3/11
Lousy - 3/11 (on New Guys)
Lams - 3/11 (on personal story)

I'm tired of being in a sqadron that is now the laughing stock of the Navy. I would hope you share the same sentiment.

Restore Nazgul Pride...Post Today
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  RE: Nazgul Topic
March 18, 2008 10:56:38 AM    View the profile of StOrMz 
You arem't the "laughing stock" persay. Kaph is just the best squad

You guys do however have quite a bit more word count on each post. So you have us there.
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  RE: Nazgul Topic
March 18, 2008 11:26:28 PM    View the profile of Trevor Evenson 
If I had post delete mod tools on this board, that post would be gone :P

I guess I do deserve that one for my post early on on the Kaph topic.

I'm not saying I disagree with G though. He's right, we definately do need to pick things up. I have people here who say they want to be here, and you know what they do to prove that to me? Very little. I'm in school, I'm taking three of my four core subjects this semester, and I have at least three hours of homework every night. Granted, my posts aren't as spontanious and consistent as I would like, nor are they as long as I am used to, but they are still there, which is more then I can say for a lot of folks in this group.

You guys have your fun with Shaz (for those list of personal things, I suggest one of your comfort items; teddy bear, blanket, whatever. Shaz tells some spooky campfire stories) but don't let me, or Nazgul, or especially him down. This was his squadron, I want you guys to show me that it's still respectable.
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  RE: Nazgul Topic
March 19, 2008 10:19:34 AM    View the profile of Gshlecc 
OOC:
Denethor said:
This whole thing's for pride kids.

And that should really be your biggest inspiration.

So get out there and earn some


What he said, do you have any?
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  RE: Nazgul Topic
March 19, 2008 10:47:35 AM    View the profile of Denethor 
You'd better have some. This thing's turning into a competition, so get out there and prove yourselves.
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  RE: Nazgul Topic
March 19, 2008 9:46:41 PM    View the profile of Jegora Fal 
Hello boys and girls, I have returned.
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  RE: Nazgul Topic
March 20, 2008 2:09:48 PM    View the profile of Jegora Fal 
Alrighty, AWOL check for Nazgul Squad. Just post here or send me a PM. Ya'll have one week to post here or send me a PM, or post on the squadron story.
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  RE: Nazgul Topic
March 21, 2008 10:49:10 AM    View the profile of Rogue 
Wow, I saw that Gravin is looking to come back.

If he does rejoin and gets assigned to us, man that would be something. Put me, him, Rusty, and Arturus in one flight and it really would be old home week again. Aka Nazgul Squadron in late 2001/early 2002.
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March 21, 2008 11:05:21 AM    View the profile of Jegora Fal 
Reports are due today ladies and gentlemen. Don't forget. Also, let's start posting a bit more, eh? We haven't actually started the training sim yet, so take this time to get drunk, write your characters prespective of the fight we just had in the bar, or do some other kind of character development. If you need ideas, Gshlecc and I will be more than willing to help.
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  RE: Nazgul Topic
March 21, 2008 6:50:36 PM    View the profile of Jegora Fal 
New Nazgul Squadron Policy on Story Post Length

For the Navy it is commonly assumed that 250 words is the minimum. We're going to increase this to 500 words for all Nazgul Pilots. Of course, you are more than welcome to set a minimum goal for yourself, but posts of less than 500 words will not be counted in totals. Posts do not stack, meaning you cannot combine the word counts of two seperate posts to equal one post. It isn't that hard to hit 500 words. If your having trouble: Trevor, Rogue, Gshlecc (Driver) and I (Jegora) are available most of the time and are willing to answer any questions you may have.
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  RE: Nazgul Topic
March 21, 2008 8:58:52 PM    View the profile of Denethor 
Impressive. Not many would push it up like that. I like it.
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  RE: Nazgul Topic
March 21, 2008 10:18:12 PM    View the profile of Jegora Fal 
Testing something...
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March 21, 2008 10:32:05 PM    View the profile of Jegora Fal 
Lol sorry bout the spam, but testing again
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  RE: Nazgul Topic
March 22, 2008 9:16:09 AM    View the profile of Denethor 
There has been some concern raised to me about the current status of the squadron stories. Remember people, whatever competition has started from these regular time stories, it is not an official competition. If you want healthy competitive writing for pride in your squadron, then by all means, go for it. But it is not an official competition, don't go overboard with your "rivalries"
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  RE: Nazgul Topic
March 22, 2008 9:20:02 PM    View the profile of Jegora Fal 
Congratulations ladies and gentlemen.

While we may not be out-posting the other squadrons, we ARE out-writing them, and thats even better. At last count, we had close to 6,000 words on Viper Sqaudron, and close to 8,000 words on Kaph. That means that while we may have less posts, our posts are longer and more in-depth.

These last couple days we have had excellent activity from all of you. Lets keep it up.
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March 23, 2008 12:37:43 AM    View the profile of Shazam 
Folks- not bad for a first week   Jeg spoke with me earlier today, though, about moving on from our current line of CD posts.  Initially, I told you folks to hold off on getting to the simulator just because it so limits your ability to make plot, but I think we may be ready with something, so if anyone has any other ideas about what they'd like to try, idea wise (something that might be interesting to try, or something you'd just like to do while you're in the simulator)- throw it on up here and make us aware.  I, for instance, think that I'm going to have Shazam under a halucinigenic episode while he flies as Nazgul 1.  However, instead of flying absolutely awfully, he will fly remarkably.  Not because the drugs have enhanced his abilities; quite the opposite in fact.  He will become incredibly lucky...  Something Shazam does not believe in, lol.  Never the less, he'll pull some rather ridiculous stunts, but only because he's so out of it that he doesn't know what he's pushing or pulling.  But, like I said, he'll look like he's doing everything on purpose.

Also, keep in mind that some of the enemy pilots have been programmed to follow the flying style of your commanders: one enemy pilot will fly like Rogue and another like Trevor.  Perhaps you could use this?  What are some other ideas?

Oh, and I won't be here for the meeting tomorrow, but I might be able to get in a post tomorrow evening; keep rockin, folks.
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  RE: Nazgul Topic
March 23, 2008 7:39:49 AM    View the profile of Jegora Fal 
There isn't a meeting tomorrow =P

On the subject of the simulations, we're going to start out with a simple patrol. We'll see what happens.
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  RE: Nazgul Topic
March 23, 2008 10:51:06 AM    View the profile of Than Sion 
Interesting, I heard that Trevor had a minimum of 1000 words per post.

The 500 minimum isn't anything new, I knew that Willtconq had it for awhile. At some point he dropped it to 250, though.
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March 23, 2008 10:55:54 AM    View the profile of Jegora Fal 
Well, I don't really know Wiltconq, and as far as I know the minimum for Nazgul has always been 250, although we certainly liked 1k+ posts.
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March 23, 2008 11:47:34 AM    View the profile of Ibram Tyrol 
Personally i think 1000 is asking a bit much, especially from newer people. I don't always hit 1000 with my own posts, but i'm always above 500...

That's not a criticism btw, it's your squadron after all Just throwing in my 2 cents.
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March 23, 2008 11:52:48 AM    View the profile of Jegora Fal 
Hence why we don't have a 1k minimum requirement. We realize that for some people 500 words can be a stretch, so asking 1,000 words would a little insane. Personally, all my posts exceed 1k, unless for something such as LMS, but thats just me.
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  RE: Nazgul Topic
March 23, 2008 7:34:29 PM    View the profile of Rogue 
Trevor's 1k limit is his personal limit. He doesn't like to put up posts smaller than that.

But he did have the squadron go by that one of Navy wide competitions I know. But again, that was a while ago, and there were a lot of experienced writers in that group.
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March 23, 2008 7:39:54 PM    View the profile of Jegora Fal 
There ya go, straight from the 'mouth' of someone who knows a hell of a lot more than I do.

=)
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  RE: Nazgul Topic
March 23, 2008 10:44:42 PM    View the profile of Shazam 
*Cough*

Thoughts and ideas, anyone?
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  RE: Nazgul Topic
March 24, 2008 4:12:11 PM    View the profile of Jegora Fal 
I'll put in my two cents here, start us off. As I'm writing this write now, I know that our first exercise is going to start out as patrol based off the Atrus. We will get intercepted by a flight of X-Wings, 15 of them. Thats just to start us off.

We can run this two ways. One: continual exercises, a constant simulation that keeps evolving and changing. Or we can run seperate exercises.

What do ya'll think?
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March 24, 2008 7:21:19 PM    View the profile of Shazam 
I'd say let's run a couple of 'em.  That way we can get ourselves, especially some of the newer folks (your characters might be a bit overconfidant) killed off.  That'll create competition between some of the characters and, perhaps, make for some interesting CD- maybe some of us aren't as good as we thought?  Or perhaps it's easier to get killed than they initially figured?  And I'll drop the Shazam is drugged out of his mind bit, lol- I think we'll keep him sane for this one, with the occasional defect.
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  RE: Nazgul Topic
March 25, 2008 6:24:20 PM    View the profile of Jegora Fal 
Good work on the posts so far, Nazguls. I just have a couple of things for the newer pilots.


First off: The Navy tends to frown on multi-kill posts: we are NOT gods. We have faults, and we have to assume that the X-Wings are as good or better than we are. No worries though, thats why we're doing this simulation in the first place.

Secondly: Its not necessary that you state every single move you perform. What I mean by this is that you don't have to name it. I realize that you want to use the proper terminology, and it is good to know if (and when) you need to discuss the planning of fights with your fellow pilots. While writing a story, however, feel free to use simpler terminology...laymans terms, if you will.

If anyone has any questions, let G, Trevor, Rogue or myself know, and we'll help you out to the best of our...considerable abilities.
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