A past history worse then Iraq's!  We may not let weapons inspectors in,  (not that many have demanded to), but at least our president didn't gas his own people!  Get a grip.  If you want to bash the USA, fine, go ahead, but at least have some sort of perspective.
 
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[army] Fishman
EFM/PO2 JMac/Aegis 3-4/Aegis 12/(=A=)(MC1)
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."
- Albert Einstein (1879-1955)
"In order to find his equal an Irishman is forced to talk to God."
- Braveheart
Aegis 4ever!!!

Yeah that's good and fine and everything but there is one little difference between Iraq and the United States. Iraq lost. They decided to march into Kuwait and start killing people, so western countries came in and, as we say in Oklahoma, USA, smacked Iraq around like a red-headed step child. They have no rights as far as I'm concerned. "To the victor go the spoils." Iraq on the other hand, is a conquered nation. If the UN wants to send weapons inspectors into Iraq, it can. Saddam Hussein can go suck on an egg. Another thing is, the USA has never used chemical weapons. Iraq has. On the issue of invasion, I do not think that anyone from Great Britain has any right to criticize the United States about invading foreign countries. The territorial conquests of the US pale in comparison to that of the UK who built a worldwide EMPIRE through the conquest of other lands. And how many of the native people were killed by the British forces? Does anybody remember the British war with the Zulu tribe of Africa? How many Zulus died as result of British imperialism. Moving on to the issue of Iraq tolerating terrorist groups and the US tolerating groups such as the Ku Klux Klan. Terrorists groups strike at governments or particular groups of people, the definition was given in another post somewhere. Now any plot to disrupt the workings of the government of the United States is a federal offense. Not liking the government is perfectly acceptable and is guaranteed by the First Amendment. Now take the KKK. The KKK is racist against certain groups of people such as Blacks, Jews, and Catholics. When the KKK is discovered to have plotted acts of violence against any person or group of people, they are thrown in jail like everybody else. They broke the law. But having a rally, burning crosses, and displaying their hatred for people (as much as it makes me sick), is perfectly legal so long as it does not degenerate to violence or plotting physical harm against someone. You can be a member of the KKK without plotting to kill someone. It's really, really hard to be a member of a terrorist organization with plotting against the government or a group of people. Now to a particularly personal point, the one involving the US reducing the number of Indians to near nothing. I can tell you that right now there is Cherokee blood flowing through my veins and I do not have one shred of anger toward the US. You want to know why? Everyone who was involved is dead, and had been dead before my father was born. There is no way to change what happened. It's done. Iraq on the other hand CONTINUES to exterminate people now. That needs to be stopped, period. Eventually the Kurds will forget just like the Indians. ( I'm am Indian, so don't give me that Native American crap.) But the sooner we stop Saddam, the sooner that day will be for the Kurds, and when the US went in to help defeat Saddam Hussein, I was all for it. Next to be addressed: The issue of the USSR and nuclear weapons. Quick question: How many dictators has Russia had in the last 100 years? Two, right? Lenin and Stalin. Now, these men had absolute power over everything in Russia and although nuclear weapons did not exist during Lenin's time, if they had he would have had control over them. When those two guys rose to power, Russia was essentially in the same condition that its in now. So what happens if some dictator with a thirst for blood gets control of them and the US has already disarmed? Bad things. Now let's look at the US side of things. In order for the US to use a nuclear weapon the order would have to be authorized by Congress. The only thing Congress can authorize is the raising of its own salary. As it stands, I'm not too worried about the US using nuclear force. Finally, the point about immigrants in Iraq and the US. Let's look at the original post shall we? Iraq: Forced many immigrants out of country - accused of racism USA: Cut off US-Mexico border with 60 mile long 10 foot high wire fence. Withdrawn benefits to illegal immigrants. Withdrawn schooling to children of children of illegal immigrants. Withdrawn medical insurance, even to those who can easily pay. First, we'll take a look at the Iraq segment. "Forced many immigrants out of the country." So they're jerks, we all knew that already. On to the US side of things. If you'll notice, every time the word immigrant is used, it is immediately preceeded by the word illegal. They entered the country illegally. That's why we built the large fence, to keep people out. Iraq wants people to leave, we don't want them coming in ILLEGALLY in the first place. Get a green card, it's not like it's hard or anything. Oh, it seems in my fervor I forgot the last point, involving guns. I just have one minor revision to that particular statement, which follows: Iraq: Gives fanatics weapons, groups them together, and calls them an army. USA: Gives fanatics weapons, groups them together, and calls them TEXAS! And you're absolutely 100% correct about the right to bear arms being guaranteed by the Constitution, although the age at which you can buy a gun is slightly older. Now consider this. Some states have enacted what are called "Make My Day Laws." These laws essentially go as follows: If you force your way into somone else's home without their permission, they can shoot and kill you with no legal repercussions whatsoever. Any body feel like breaking and entering? I didn't think so.
 
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FM/SCRW Gathon 'Sabre'/Venom 3-2/Wing 2/ISD Overlord/VEN/VE (=A=)

On a side note, if anyone knows of a place where I can buy a Fightin' whiteys t-shirt please let me know.  You see, there is this one college in Colorado that has a very large American Indian population.  Many of these were radicals, and decided to do something about teams using Indian mascots.  They changed their team name to the fightin' whiteys.  Their mascot is a white guy.  I think it is hysterical, so I would like to purchase one of the shirts.  Thanx.
 
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[army] Fishman
EFM/PO2 JMac/Aegis 3-4/Aegis 12/(=A=)(MC1)
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."
- Albert Einstein (1879-1955)
"In order to find his equal an Irishman is forced to talk to God."
- Braveheart
Aegis 4ever!!!

On May 2nd, a pro-Israeli resolution was introduced by Sen. Joseph Lieberman and passed 94-2 in the Senate. The resolution is considered America's solution to the Middle East problem. The resolution states America's clear support for Israel's actions in the past month (including their recent declaration that they will not let U.N. weapon inspectors into their country) and that we will stand "in solidarity with Israel for every future action she takes against the Palestinians." The resolution further condemned the PLO and stated that Arafat, a terrorist, must be brought to justice. So if Israel executes Arafat or any PLO member, we will fully support that decision. If Israel decides to launch another ethnic-cleansing offensive, we will support that decision as well. No matter what Israel decides to do -- America will support it 100%. We have officially abandoned our role as peace-keeper/negotiator and decided to take sides on the front-lines. A lot of Arabs are not going to take this too lightly... PS. Red5 - The "Make My Day Laws" has one key problem: the phrases "breaking and entering" and "forcing your way in." If you leave your door unlocked and a robber slips in... you can't legally shoot him because he didn't "break" anything or "force" his way in.   ----------------------- "Out of the night that covers me, Black as the Pit from pole to pole,   I thank whatever gods may be For my unconquerable soul. In the fell clutch of circumstance I have not winced nor cried aloud.   Under the bludgeonings of chance, My head is bloody, but unbowed. It matters not how strait the gate, How charged with punishments the scroll, I am the master of my fate: I am the captain of my soul." --- William Ernest Henley (1849 – 1903)

Hmm, so now we are comparing Iraq to the US? I could do that... Anyways, India, Pakistan, China etc won't really need trade if they nuke one of the world's superpowers out of existence, will they? I doubt that we are China's only driving ambition to grow, and I think that India and Pakistan could probably come up with a solution to their differences long enough to nuke us. You all deny it because you do not want it to happen. Well, face it. They could, (about a 1% chance), so there isn't much to fear. But its that 1% that we are all frightened of. If someone would've told me in 1988 that Russia had an arsenal of biological weapons capable of wiping out most of the US population, I would've laughed in their face, and so would you. We weren't about to admit that the Russians could kill us that easily. But guess what? They could have...then. It is the same with all those oriental people. They could...but they probably won't. They get their stuff from us. They got their nukes and their shiny guns from us. They got their trains and there planes from us. We just sit here cranking out stuff forever. And when we stop, who knows? Maybe we'll all be on Mars by then and just blow up the whole d@mn planet. (These statements do not in any way reflect the views of Vast Empire, its associates, or anyone else involved with them.)
 
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[PO1][Red5]/[Nazgul]-[1]/[Wing 1]/[None]/[1VENF]/VEN [=A=] (medals)

Im sorry, im not going to post anything long because the complete lack of logic in your theory red baffles me? Can you say you honestly believe that India pakistan and china could get together and nuke us given current circumstances??
 
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SL/SGMTRaziel/4SQD/1COMP/1BAT/1RGT/Tadath/VEA/ {EW1}
Squad Leader - Squad4 Wraiths

Lol look even Jmac agrees, you must be wrong!
 
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SL/SGMTRaziel/4SQD/1COMP/1BAT/1RGT/Tadath/VEA/ {EW1}
Squad Leader - Squad4 Wraiths

Actually, Avogadro's number is as follows: 6.0221367 x 10 ^ 23 (That's as precise as modern science gets. Go modern science!)
 
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FM/SCRW Gathon 'Sabre'/Venom 3-2/Wing 2/ISD Overlord/VEN/VE (=A=)
-Bachelor for life.

Why don't we (America) take over the middle east, we carpet bomb the place, take over, and then there would be no oil crisis, because we would split up the oil accordingly, and fairly. Then again, there are some problems with that. Go ahead and tell me them, i'm too lazy to list them.
 
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"Pain is weakness leaving the body" - US Marines

EFM/PO2 Liquid/Aegis 1-3 (Aegis Three)/Wing1/mSSD Atrus/DEF/VEN/VE/(=A=)(=SA=)

Liquid, no one in the world would ever trust the US in control of the entire worlds supply of oil.  All taking them over would do is catalyze WW III... JMac, has it ever occured to you that if you're having to argue against everyone else, there might be just a slight probability that you are wrong?  Besides, I'm always right       
 
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Argon Viper
IW COL Argon Viper{ret}
"History is on the move, those who cannot keep up will watch from a distance, and those who get in our way will not watch at all" - Grand Admiral Thrawn
"How boring life would be if everyone felt the same way we do..." - Argon Viper
"Condemnation does not liberate, it oppresses" - Carl G Jung

No.
 
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[army] Fishman
EFM/PO2 JMac/Aegis 3-4/Aegis 12/(=A=)(MC1)
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."
- Albert Einstein (1879-1955)
"In order to find his equal an Irishman is forced to talk to God."
- Braveheart
Aegis 4ever!!!