We might have to just have people do dual-service, at least for the test group of people, if they can handle it, but that idea would be good for the future, Drac.

I think we do need to base it off some veteran members at first, rather than opening the doors to everyone. For one thing, the fist couple groups of people will end up being ship commanders, so we need to make sure they're made up of quality people who we know can lead. Also, veterans will make sure there's good activity in it and will be able to set the tone for the future.

We could open it to everyone after a mission or two, but we need a stable, reliable group to start things off with.

-Drac

Which brings us back to what I said about deciding on the structure before we decide on the details.

You can dismiss it as me being "rigid" or whatever as much as you want, but it won't change reality.

If we're going to do this, the testers have to be all in, or not in at all.

On a side note, we need to wait for Den to make a decision on who's going to lead this project, as that would take this concept out of the debate stage at least.

/me wonders if everyone else who posted on this thread's ages added up would even come close to Driver's...

Oh snap, respect

I think he was joking around Atrasin

gunnay,

you are best served to not get in the middle of conversations that do not apply to you.

our conversation here is done Lieutenent.

For the record, me and Atrasin so this all the time

We've kissed and made up, no need for alarm.

Final idea: Poll the Navy members, see who would want to write on a ship perspective and if it is even worth it.

is that AM or PM...i couldnt read that small print

So we post our opinion on here, right?

j/k

-Drac

watch the attitude Lieutenent

;P

Anyway: whether or not this is a half-half division thing is kind of tough to tell without a little experimenting.  Yea, it'd be nice to make a decision right now, but without some testing to see if the expected roles are realistic for new members: I don't know how you could make such an assumption.  And I like your idea up there Drac: trading people around may be a decent way to change things up and help people from feeling like their stuck in a role.

Hmm just a few thoughts on things to consider when proceeding cautiously with this.

1. Simplicity.  On the first page of this thread was posted a complex layout of how ship service might work.  We should be realistic, our division is always going to be small, and have an even smaller core of active members.  Therefore positions and structures should be simplified and streamlined.  We need not create a complex hierarchy, but rather one that serves a function and provides opportunities for different experiences and fun.

2. Work within a selected taskforce.  We restructured the defensive fleet.  I suggest concentrating on putting all of our resources into one of those taskforces with some people flying in Phoenix wing stationed on the flag ship, and the others serving as crew on said flag ship.  The other parts of the fleet are NPC for flavour, context, background, and otherwise to complete the general picture.

3. Do not create another set of tests, training systems, etc.  Our Academy is already bloated, too technical, and otherwise unwieldy and just not fun.  There are other ways to do this kind of skillset training that we might explore or try to conceive of.