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Kanderin Draken
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  Just, need some help...
July 2, 2007 8:40:09 AM    View the profile of Kanderin Draken 
Im a little emberassed to be talking publically about this, but I need some help making my mind up and I really cant trust anyone closer to me.

Where do I start. My girlfriend has a busy life, I've grown used to it. She is out pretty much every friday and saturday night with her friends. I miss her like crazy but I've grown to accept thats the way she is and the way she's always going to be.

Just over a week ago I got attacked. I dont want to go into much more detail then that, apart from their numbers went into double figures and well over half of them were harmed. I was left pretty messed up - concussion, bruised ribs, broken nose, and some other minor things.

So yeah, I'm pretty vulnerable a the moment. The saturday I got out of hospital i was told by my girlfriend she had a party to go to. She said she was sorry she couldn't stay with me, but that it would of been rude to cancel soemthing that was so long in the making. She said to make up for it she would spend all of Sunday with me, so i shrugged, accepted I had no other choice and let the day pass.

Sunday morning she told me she was babysitting on the night. When i confronted her about the promise she told me she had simply said she was going to spend the day with me, and needed the money anyway.

The main reason I cant cast my own mind on this is simple - I have relationship issues. Not major like, I flip out and run out the door once the word commitment is mentioned. Quite the opposite. When im on friend status with a girl, Im fine. Im charming, Im polite, im a great listener, etc. But once i step up into the girlfriend area, i panic. I try and step up my game and normally screw it up. Im afraid of being replaced, I've took first position in the race for her heart, and im too busy watching the people behind me that i trip up. The idea that someone else is making her laugh and smile, scares the hell out of me. I get mad and start asking myself questions, and say things I reget later. Pathetic I know.

But the reason im saying this, is i need a third party decision. My girlfriend tells me that Im right and that it is her fault, but I cant help feeling im being majorly inconsiderate. I think Im trying to make her change a life she's had for nearly seventeen years now.

Just anyone, dont worry about personally offending me or anyone around me, I'd like to hear your opinion. it would really help, thanks.
 
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  RE: Just, need some help...
July 2, 2007 10:16:57 AM    View the profile of Kadann 
I'll just come right to the point.  Get rid of the girl.  It doesn't sound like she wants to be in a relationship right now or is even ready for one for that matter. 

The point of a relationship is to be there for the other person.  When both people are into the relationship, they'll want to spend time with each other.  Granted, you should still go out with your friends and stuff....but the majority of the time, you'll want to be spending with the other person.

It just sounds like she is making up excuses to not hang out with you; which is a pretty good indicator that she probably doesn't want to be dating anyone right now anyways.  So basically just stop dating her; she'll respect you more for the decision anyways.

Also, it sounds like you need to take a break from dating women anyways.  I would recommend not dating anyone for awhile until you can figure out who you are and what you want. 

A lot of how you're thinking and acting stems from a lack of confidence in yourself.  If you start questioning yourself, then you probably don't have a firm grip of what you want or who you even are.  Once you know that, you'll have more confidence in yourself; which is more attractive to the opposite sex anyways.  So instead of chasing them down, you'll have them chasing you. 

There are a ton of other women out there, so don't just settle for one that doesn't treat you the way you want to be treated.
 
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  RE: Just, need some help...
July 2, 2007 10:19:06 AM    View the profile of Rogueboy 
to be honest I dont think she's ready for a relationship, when you get into a relationship that both parties want to be serious they will need to make sacrifices for each other. Personally I say screw her if she can't make any time for you whatsoever but of course thats also being selfish.

How about going to the parties with her? Is it she doesn't want you to go? Or do you not want to go for fear of squeezing her until she can't breath? I know the feeling of when you spend so much time with your girlfriend due to an obsession or something and there is always the fear that at the parties she might hook up with someone else. The question is; do you like this girl or are you in love with her?

EDIT: basically what Kadann said but his has better and more detail, beat me to it

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  RE: Just, need some help...
July 2, 2007 10:21:30 AM    View the profile of Luckystar 
Kanderin, i don't have a boyfriend. I have never had one. And I'm like you, I don't really rush things with guys or in your case , girls. But for some reason I'm good at helping people wit hthose things.

Here are a few things I would do:

- buy a can of pepperspray for your protection

-if you have a guy friend , ask him if you could join him on the things he's doing (party, going out for a drink , etc.)

-If your girlfriend makes you feel uncomfortable in any way tell her how you feel

- ask her if you could go with her

That's all i can suggest man. Hope all is well soon

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  RE: Just, need some help...
July 2, 2007 10:33:32 AM    View the profile of D'har Leth 
Relationship advice:  Leave her.

Self Defense advice:  Buy something with big pockets, put a knife in said pocket.  And read http://www.gutterfighting.org/files/Kill_or_Get_Killed.pdf

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  RE: Just, need some help...
July 2, 2007 10:41:20 AM    View the profile of Krius 
Dump her.
 
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  RE: Just, need some help...
July 2, 2007 10:51:55 AM    View the profile of Marka 
The way I see it, it all boils down to whether or not you are happy with the relationship, and whether or not you consider the way she treats you worth putting up with.

Put yourself in her shoes for a moment though; what would you be thinking about the relationship, and the person it is with, if you were acting exactly as she was? If it was me, I would be acting that way if I had very little intention on taking the relationship seriously.

Ultimately, considering her treatment towards you, what makes you happy is paramount. Sort out what is best for you overall and make your decision(s) based on that.

Hope I helped.
 
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  RE: Just, need some help...
July 2, 2007 11:20:10 AM    View the profile of Tokijin 
Yeah, I'd have to agree with, well, everyone who has commented. It seems like you'd be better off without her. She doesn't seem to want to hang around you and is using the excuses of her social life to escape. Man, I'm hate to say it but if she wanted to stay your girlfriend she would have stayed with you in that hospital. I think that was her point of no return, so to speak. She made her decision and that's just really, really inconsiderate on her part. Oh - and when a girl says it's her fault, most of the time she *wants* you to feel bad about you pointing fingers. And in my opinion, you aren't pathetic. The single fact that you realize how you handle things like relationships in full color is a good step in the right direction. You just need to find the girl who will help you back up after you fall in that race.
 
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July 2, 2007 11:51:12 AM    View the profile of Tomas 
Hey Skar, I've experienced a similar thing (minus the being attacked). On a number of occasions, my last girlfriend would make plans/promises with me before breaking them and going off to do something else on her own and giving me some excuse. Two such times included a formal run by the university that we had bought tickets for and another where we were hanging out (were supposed to go to a movie a little later on in the night). She gets a call from a friend about a party...I ended up being sent home and she went to the party...

It took a while longer, some other problems, and some talking with friends but I realized how little she cared about me. With you in the situation you're in and her doing the same thing...she doesn't seem to care about you ... especially as much as you'd like. Let her go..."there's other fish in the sea"
 
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  RE: Just, need some help...
July 2, 2007 1:16:30 PM    View the profile of Kanderin Draken 
The attack thing was my fault. I defended someone and it came back to bite me in the ass. Wasn't random as it obviously appeared to a lot of you.

She did care about it, she showed up as soon as she heard, and stayed all the time I was in the hospital. The party I can understand. I was supposed to be originally going with her but with my ribs in the state they are I got talked into admitting it wouldn't really be feasable.

And yeah, I do go out with her to these parties. But many of her friends do drugs and they pretty much all smoke. My asthma just cant take it. Plus I know a number of them are attracted to her, and that means my jealousy just ruins the night. So generally I just stay out of the way.

And I've known her for four years now, I've only been going out with her for just over a year. Before that she was in a relationship with a friend of mine who treated her like crap. As I said earlier, I was the friend that cared and looked after her, always cheered her up. I stole her away from him. I'm not proud of it but thats the way it is.

I've been apart from her. We went on a break and it absolutely killed me. I hardly eat, I never went out and i cried myself to sleep pretty much every night. She makes thing difficult for me but i cant live without her. I love her more than anything.

She's had mixed luck with men. Her first boyfriend cheated on her twice, the second cheated again. Her third boyfriend beat her up. She has problems, I know she does. She's distant because she expects me to hurt her like every other guy has. It's changing, she has started to drop things to spend time with me. Just more recently I've been in need of some major company, from anyone in particular. As soon as I have someone to talk with I cheer up and I'm fine again. But when I'm alone, which without school will be all this week i get lonely. And when i get lonely i think of her. And when i think of her my problems take over and make a problem that doesn't exist.

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  RE: Just, need some help...
July 2, 2007 1:25:31 PM    View the profile of Luckystar 
Kanderin...all I can suggest in that case is that you show her taht you care. Make sure she knows you don't want to hurt her.

be there for her like she's been there for you. it may take awhile for her to feel real secure, but those things take time. Show her your  love and that you are differnt from all those other men. She will eventually "settle down" and you both will be very happy I'm sure.
 
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  RE: Just, need some help...
July 2, 2007 1:29:24 PM    View the profile of Kanderin Draken 
I will Lucky, thankyou.
 
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  RE: Just, need some help...
July 2, 2007 4:54:14 PM    View the profile of Gunnay 
Bleh, immature relationships always sucked, but that's the way it's going to be at least until you get into your twenties, maybe until your thirties.  Hell, Ive dated women in their thirties that act like theyre 15.  Anyways, if you're in a destructive relationship, get out of it.  Date a few women, get to know the field.  There are too many fish in the sea to deal with a girl that blows you off, especially if you guys are boyfriend/girlfriend in name.  Unless of course you like being blown off.
 
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  RE: Just, need some help...
July 2, 2007 6:09:04 PM    View the profile of JMac 
I don't really have much to add as far as the girlfriend thing goes...that's been well covered, and Kadann said all that I would have anyway.

I do want to adress the self defense aspect of it though.  DO NOT carry a weapon with you.  I carry a knife at all times, it is part of my outfit, I feel naked without it, and it has saved my life on several occasions.  That being said, if you don't know how to use one, and, far more importantly, aren't ready to use one, you are going to screw yourself over.  Because the second you draw it, it becomes much more serious...you've just turned something that would have been bad into something that will be lethal for someone involved.  Carry pepper spray around, you hit someone with that, they are going to lose any interest in attacking you.

The best thing you can do to defend yourself is to always be on the alert.  Don't travel alone, always have someone with you.  If there is someone on your side, the odds jump significantly, even if you are still outnumbered.  Don't let yourself become vulnerable....you aren't going to get jumped in a grocery store in the middle of the day, you are going to get jumped in a dark alley, in a bar after people have been drinking, somewhere that there won't be witnesses/help.

Lastly, get training on self defense.  A lot of martial arts are nothing but flash and won't do you any good, but there are a lot that will help you train your mind and body to defend yourself.  Even a little bit of training, of knowledge, can tip the balance when you are in a bad spot.

If you need anything, just let me know.  Look me up on mIRC, or on AIM as enak19...I'd be more then happy to discuss any of this with you, or just listen.
 
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  RE: Just, need some help...
July 2, 2007 8:52:06 PM    View the profile of D'har Leth 
A suggestion for martial arts:  Filipino Jujitsu.  Engineered specifically for street fighting, very effective.  You don't need to be perfect to do it.

Actual fighting advice:  Hold your hands close to your face, punch fast, but DO NOT punch people in the skull, you'll break your fingers.  Kick when you can, before they're too close.  Always go for the knees or the nads.  Punch them in the chest, try to go for the solar plexus.  If you think there are more than you can handle, run like hell.  If you're in a life or death situation, hit them in the throat, but only do it if you need to, because it will most likely kill them.  And again, the best way not to get beaten up is to not get in a fight in the first place.
 
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  RE: Just, need some help...
July 3, 2007 12:50:09 AM    View the profile of Rogueboy 
meh my trick in a fight is to convince them Im a damn psycho plus most people know not to mess with me, my bro knows/is friends with alot of the heavy hitters in the city.
 
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July 3, 2007 1:50:11 AM    View the profile of Sniping101 
Well, the girlfriend issue has been addressed in myriad of different ways and I won't further confuse you with my likely skewed opinion. I personaly don't really date per se so I'm really not fit to give advice.

However It seems to me you live your life according to others standards. I could be wrong, I have been before. What you need to decide is what you want, why you want it, when you want it, what you hold value in, what traits you admire and which you despise. Then you need to start holding everyone, including yourself, to your own standards. That's not saying become arrogant, it's just saying make people prove their worth to you instead of trying to prove your worth to them, the only person to whom you need prove worth is yourself, and if you haven't done that there's still no need for anyone else to know. Example: Say you hold altruism in high regard. This means holding yourself to a certain standard of altruism, meaning you try to help people whenever you can, even if you don't look for people to help it means you may help those who cross your path. It also means expecting and encouraging said trait among your fellows. Hope that all makes any sense at all. Compromise is something you'll have to do from time to time but you shouldn't always have to.

I've always found avoiding fights simpler than fighting. Usually you can talk your way out of a fight, the best way to do that is to knock down the differences between you and whoever is getting lippy, find a real similarity and exploit it, or make them question the worth of doing whatever it is they are intent on doing. Failing that if there's more than one and you're not big on pride run like hell. There's not really any shame in running when you're outnumbered, although they might try to make you think there is later. But at least there is a later and that's the point. Having a later is always nice. That being said avoiding situations and people that you're likely to feel the need to fight is a wise course of action.

And like rouge said, A reputation is always handy, I have a friend who used to get a lot of hell in school because he was funny looking. It's a fact, he is one goofy looking guy. However the solution his dad came up with was, since no one knew what he looked like, to pretend to be the kids Parole Officer, he asked around the school a little about how his son was doing. He then told them that no one much messed with the kid after the incident with the three marines. He was always very vague about what happened with the marines, but somehow it always came out that the kids parents had to pay a bunch of medical bills. Don't get me wrong, that's not really a typical case, it's more of an interesting story that came out of high school and really is questionable advice.

Take my advice and anyone elses with a grain of salt though, we all live in very different social situations and what works for one may not work for any others. Good Luck with whatever you decide.
 
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  RE: Just, need some help...
July 3, 2007 2:55:11 AM    View the profile of Max Fagron 
Im from Ireland and our national sport is called hurling.To explain it quickly,its like  hockey but its 2000 years old.In fact,hockey and ice-hockey evolved from it.A stick looks like a hockey stick but is made of hard wood because the game is quite physical.Its a bit shorter and the boss(the flat bit at the end)is wider,but the thing about it is when your walking around you could just pretend your going to hurling training.No one goes near you.Now if you live in the States,a baseball bat is what i would recommend,or a hurl if you live in new york as they have a club there.If you live in england,your best bet is the pepper spray unless you can get a hurl in london if you live there.Still though it would look weird as almost no-one plays it where you live.






God,I just realized how useless a help this will be.
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  RE: Just, need some help...
July 3, 2007 3:00:53 AM    View the profile of Max Fagron 
On your girlfriend,give her one week.If she keeps blowing you off,ask her to take 10 minutes to sit down with her.Tell her that you love her(if you really do,dont lie)then ask her does she love you and ask her for the truth.If she says she does,ask her why she then keeps leaving you alone?But ask it gently and emit the occasional hiss of pain(make it sound real!).If you do it right she should feel sorry for you.And remember,just because you love her a lot(i know how it feels,trust me)a relationship is 2 people,and no matter how much you think the world of her,she must love you back.Hope that actually helps!
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  RE: Just, need some help...
July 3, 2007 3:14:13 AM    View the profile of Max Fagron 
Very good advice D'har.I do martial arts aswell and the one that i would recommend would be judo,I do that.The easiest technique  is if someone is runnning or punching at you,you pull the closest part of their body towards you,as fast as you can,pulling them faster than they are moving,and pulll them over their center of gravity.Judo is very easy to take up and do,because there is a club in almost every big town or city.Its called physical chess by many black-belts,because its all about movment and counter movement.It also has a lot to do with physics.It is probably the most scientific Martial Art and because its a self defence art,it doesnt leave you feeling guilty about about trying to purposefully hurt tthe guy.And a last thing:if you manage to throw the guy,DONT,and I repeat DONT!,get down after him>RUN LIKE HELL IF YOU CAN GET HIM DOWN!hope that helps aswell.
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  RE: Just, need some help...
July 3, 2007 4:14:16 AM    View the profile of Kami 
The fact that she's been in a series of abusive relationships seems to explain a fair bit of her behavior. No doubt she's wary of committing herself entirely to someone with that kind of dating track record behind her. Plus I'm guessing that her group of friends were there for her through all of that, which makes them a significantly important component of her life. Perhaps she feels the need to juggle you and them without sacrificing time with either one of you?

I'm going to go against the trend here and say stick it out. You've only been together for a year, a lot of these jinks can be worked out over time. I agree completely with what Lucky said, reinforce the fact that you're there for her and try to relax about losing her. She's with you for a reason

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  RE: Just, need some help...
July 3, 2007 4:35:09 AM    View the profile of Kanderin Draken 
Ok look, thankyou for all the self defence advice, but I wasn't jumped in the street.

I got a call friday night from a girl friend (not girlfriend) of mine, ina bsolute etars telling her that her brother had absolutely flipped out. So I went down there and tried to restrain him. he completely snapped, pushed me to the ground and lunged at the girl, so I threw him out.

About a half hour later he came back with like, ten or so people, kicked the door through and beat the crap out of me. It was my fault it happened, and only a jedi like level of self defence would of stopped them handing my ass to me.

Ok then. Max and Kami, thanks. Your words do make a lot of sense. Snipes the fact you gave the wildcard answer doens't surprise me at all, but that actually answers a lot of questions.

Thanks everyone that offered their view on this, its helped a lot.
 
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