Evil_Clown
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RE: Pilot Rating/Proficiency/Skill
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April 4, 2007
9:41:02 AM
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Now that we've got the basics, Art, how do we improve. ----------------------- [-=Nazgul Squadron=-]
[-=Phoenix Wing=-]
FM/SCRW Delia "Evil Clown" Cael/Nazgul 3-2/Phoenix Wing/mSSD Atrus/1VENF/VEN/VE/(=*A*=)[SoA]
"So tell the judge I'm ready for the vases.
I'll dance in their faces when the guitar sounds.
Won't be long, I won't be gone.
Been leaning towards the shadows all along.
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TheStrangler
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RE: Pilot Rating/Proficiency/Skill
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April 27, 2007
11:34:22 PM
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Pilot rating: Novice
Pilot Proficiencies:
Technical:
Reconnaissance - Trainee (0)
Escort - Novice (1)
Infiltration - Trainee (0)
Bomber:
Space Bombardier - Novice (1)
Ground Support - Trainee (0)
Attacker:
Dogfight - Novice (1)
Elemental - Trainee (0)
Weapons Proficiencies:
Small arms - Inept (0)
Heavy Weaponry - Trainee (1)
Explosives - Trainee (1)
Melee - Inept (0)
Hand to hand - Inept (0)
----------------------- FM/CRW Enzadi Malko/Kaph 6/Wing 1, mSSD Atrus/DEF/VEN/VE
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Arturus
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RE: Pilot Rating/Proficiency/Skill
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May 6, 2007
9:06:07 PM
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Ok I have finally begun entering these into Wiki. Once this process has been completed, I will begin grading any story whose completion date is past the date when this programme was first announced. From there I will begin to evaluate stories and make adjustments. I am considering whether or not to include major stories from the previous year and, in particular, the ESC. I am leaning against it at the moment given the fact that all long-standing members have received various term of service bonuses. Nevertheless, some of the ratings for long-serving pilots are probably low by their character's standard. I may consider grading older posts by a tougher standard. That is for a later date.
----------------------- WADJ, SPAC/1LT Corran "Arturus" Hargraves/SCR Doashim/VE/VEN/(=A=)(=SA=)(=*MA*=)(=JCPA=)(=SCPA=)[LoM][MC:1](x2)[SV][BRC][VC:B][CBV][LSM][LoC][BWC][SWC][GWC]
"The way of war is a way of deception. When able, feign inability; when deploying troops, appear not to be. When near, appear far; when far, appear near. Lure with bait; strike with chaos. If the enemy is full, be prepared. If strong, avoid him. If he is angry, disconcert him. If he is weak, stir him to pride. If he is relaxed, harry him; if his men are harmonious, split them. Attack where he is unprepared; appear where you are unexpected. This is victory in warfare; it cannot be divulged in advance. Victory belongs to the side that scores most in the temple calculations before battle. Most spells victory; least spells defeat; none, surer defeat. I see it in this way, and the outcome is apparent." -- Sun Tzu
"Ultimate excellence lies not in winning every battle but in defeating the enemy without ever fighting." -- Sun Tzu
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Arturus
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RE: Pilot Rating/Proficiency/Skill
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May 6, 2007
9:37:51 PM
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Darius, Cyleaf Aehait, Willtconq, Evil Clown, Tomas, Hunter, Trevor, Than Sion, and Demonic are all done so far.
Hell Kite, make a wiki page using the pilot template and I'll do yours. I am doing these in the order they were posted on this thread. ----------------------- WADJ, SPAC/1LT Corran "Arturus" Hargraves/SCR Doashim/VE/VEN/(=A=)(=SA=)(=*MA*=)(=JCPA=)(=SCPA=)[LoM][MC:1](x2)[SV][BRC][VC:B][CBV][LSM][LoC][BWC][SWC][GWC]
"The way of war is a way of deception. When able, feign inability; when deploying troops, appear not to be. When near, appear far; when far, appear near. Lure with bait; strike with chaos. If the enemy is full, be prepared. If strong, avoid him. If he is angry, disconcert him. If he is weak, stir him to pride. If he is relaxed, harry him; if his men are harmonious, split them. Attack where he is unprepared; appear where you are unexpected. This is victory in warfare; it cannot be divulged in advance. Victory belongs to the side that scores most in the temple calculations before battle. Most spells victory; least spells defeat; none, surer defeat. I see it in this way, and the outcome is apparent." -- Sun Tzu
"Ultimate excellence lies not in winning every battle but in defeating the enemy without ever fighting." -- Sun Tzu
Clearly Canadian!
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Casca
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RE: Pilot Rating/Proficiency/Skill
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May 11, 2007
3:32:45 PM
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Pilot Rating: Novice
Proficiencies:
Technical:
Reconnaissance : Trainee ( )
Escort: Novice ( 1 )
Infiltration: Novice ( 1 )
Bomber:
Space Bombadeer: Novice ( 1 )
Ground Support: Trainee ( )
Attacker:
Dogfight: Veteran ( 2 )
Elemental: Novice ( 1 )
Weapon Proficiencies:
Proficiencies:
Small arms: Limited Proficiency ( 2 )
Heavy Weaponry: Inept ( )
Explosives: Inept ( )
Melee: Trainee ( 1 )
Hand to hand: Trainee ( 1 )
Can someone check this? I didn't have time to make sure it was correct.
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[-=Nazgul Squadron=-]
FM/PO2 Casca "Black Curse" Phennir/Nazgul Squadron 2-7/Phoenix Wing/mSSD Atrus/1VENF OFF/VEN/VE(=*A*=)[VC:B][BWC]
SDJ-75-13
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Sol
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RE: Pilot Rating/Proficiency/Skill
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May 11, 2007
3:42:13 PM
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Pilot Rating: Novice
Proficiencies:
Technical:
Reconnaissance : Trainee (0)
Escort: Novice (1)
Infiltration: Trainee (0)
Bomber:
Space Bombadeer: Trainee (0)
Ground Support: Novice (1)
Attacker:
Dogfight: Novice (1)
Elemental: Trainee (0)
Weapon Proficiencies:
Proficiencies:
Small arms: Inept (0)
Heavy Weaponry: Trainee (1)
Explosives: Trainee (1)
Melee: Inept (0)
Hand to hand: Inept (0)
----------------------- ~ Sol Larith
FM/SCRW Sol/Nazgul 6/Phoenix Wing/mSSD Atrus/OFF/VEN/VE (=*A*=)[SoA]
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Jaden
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RE: Pilot Rating/Proficiency/Skill
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June 1, 2007
3:28:56 PM
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Pilot rating: Ace
Pilot Proficiencies:
Technical:
Reconnaissance - Novice (1)
Escort - Pilot (2)
Infiltration - Pilot (2)
Bomber:
Space Bombardier - Bomber (2)
Ground Support - Novice (1)
Attacker:
Dogfight - First Ace (4)
Elemental - Veteran (2)
Weapons Proficiencies:
Small arms - Limited Proficiency(2)
Heavy Weaponry - Trainee (1)
Explosives - Moderate Proficiency (3)
Melee -Trainee (1)
Hand to hand - Trainee (1)
Leadership Skills:
Authority - Moderate (2)
Tactical Skills - Moderate (2)
Strategic Skills - Strong (3)
Diplomatic Skills - Discourteous (1)
Decisiveness - Moderate (2)
Inspiration - Optimistic (3)
----------------------- Jaden Khaar
NazgulSquadron
Naval Academy Executive Officer
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FM/2LT Jaden Khaar/Nazgul 3-2 (Nazgul 10)/Phoenix Wing/mSSD Atrus/DEF/VEN/VE (=*A*=) (=*SA*=) (*=TE=*) [VC:S][LSM][SV][CBV](x2)[GWC]
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TXO/2LT Jaden Khaar/Venom 1-2 (Venom 2)/Phoenix Wing/Platform Saratoga/DEF/VEN/VE (=*A*=) (=*SA*=) (*=TE=*) [VC:S][LSM][SV][CBV](x2)[GWC]
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Arturus
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RE: Pilot Rating/Proficiency/Skill
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June 9, 2007
10:26:10 AM
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Jaden, all values begin at 0. This means you placed 13 values for leadership when you are eligible for 7. What this means is that you actually placed more values than Shazam and I were eligible for!!!
I haven't checked the rest of your list but please verify it is in accordance with the increases assigned in the first post of this topic. ----------------------- SCAP, WADJ/1LT Corran "Arturus" Hargraves/STCR Doashim/VE/VEN/(=A=)(=SA=)(=*MA*=)(=JCPA=)(=SCPA=)[MC:1](x2)[SV][BRC][VC:B][CBV][LSM][LoC][BWC][SWC][GWC]
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Eridamius
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RE: Pilot Rating/Proficiency/Skill
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June 27, 2007
6:40:53 PM
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Pilot Rating: Trainee
Proficiencies:
Technical:
Reconnaissance : Trainee ( 0 )
Escort: Trainee ( 0 )
Infiltration: Trainee ( 1 )
Bomber:
Space Bombadeer: Trainee ( 0 )
Ground Support: Trainee ( 0 )
Attacker:
Dogfight: Trainee ( 1 )
Elemental: Trainee ( 1 )
Weapon Proficiencies:
Proficiencies:
Small arms: Inept ( 1 )
Heavy Weaponry: Inept ( 0 )
Explosives: Inept ( 0 )
Melee: Inept ( 1 )
Hand to hand: Inept ( 0 )
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Decembrist
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RE: Pilot Rating/Proficiency/Skill
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June 27, 2007
7:39:45 PM
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Finally...
Pilot rating: Trainee
Pilot Proficiencies:
Technical:
Reconnaissance - Novice (1)
Escort - Trainee (0)
Infiltration - Trainee (0)
Bomber:
Space Bombardier - Novice (1)
Ground Support - Novice (1)
Attacker:
Dogfight - Trainee (0)
Elemental - Trainee (0)
Weapons Proficiencies:
Small arms - Trainee (1)
Heavy Weaponry - Inept (0)
Explosives - Inept (0)
Melee - Inept (0)
Hand to hand - Trainee (1)
----------------------- SCRW/FM Vasili "Decembrist" Rustam/Sentinel 3/Flight 1/STCR Doashim/Defensive Fleet/VEN/VE [SoA] [SoV] [CBV] (=*A*=)
My friends tell me I should run. They say that she's got a gun; but that just turns me on. Right on.
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Jegora Fal
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RE: Pilot Rating/Proficiency/Skill
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March 26, 2008
3:06:35 PM
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I realize this is an old topic, but I was wondering whether or not these proficiency ratings are still under construction, or whether the system was disbanded. I have the template in my Wiki, I just don't have anything else.
If this is no longer being used, I'll remove the template. If it is something that is still in the works, then I'll leave it on my page.
Many thanks to any who can clear up the issue.
Jegora Fal Nazgul Squadron Flight Leader FL/CPO Jegora Fal/Nazgul 2-1/Phoenix Wing/mSSD Atrus/1Flt/VEN/VE (=*A*=) (=*SA*=) [MC1] [LoT] Si vis pacem, para bellum --If you wish peace, prepare for war
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Shazam
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RE: Pilot Rating/Proficiency/Skill
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March 26, 2008
7:00:10 PM
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Actually- it is, lol. We've been focusing so much of our time on maintaining the squadrons and getting things set up that much of the academy work has had to suffer. However, if I recall correctly, Ibram was working on the skills and studies and had a really good hold on it, so he'll be on that. As for the proficiencies, I was thinking of keeping them as is, but not having any control over how many points people decide to allocate to them, and, basically, using it as a kind of "on a scale of one to ten" type of thing, so that people kind of get an idea of just how good your character would be in comparison to an NPC or another member. Also, as time went on, members could up their skills a little bit, or ,maybe, reduce them.
Either way, the proficiencies, in this case, probably wouldn't be applied until a pilot had passed the senior aviator's exam so that we could ensure some kind of mature allocation of the points, lol- we don't everyone to be a god, here. There was a question, a while back, on the level of difficulty for fighters, and I thought I might address that with the proficiencies as well. The way we might approach it is by classifying ships by difficulty; for instance: the B-Wing and TIE Phantom may be more complex ships to fly simply because they have devices or steering mechanisms that differ greatly than the configurations we're used to. So- we might have both licenses and pilot proficiencies.
Does that sound good to everybody? Because I would really only have to make some minor edits to make it that way and, in my opinion, it would greatly simplify the entire bit while still staying true to it's initial focus and purpose. Thanks for bringin it up, Jeg.
*Flash Was Here...*
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Phoenix Wing Commander and Training Officer
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7:01:21 PM)]
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Jegora Fal
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RE: Pilot Rating/Proficiency/Skill
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March 26, 2008
8:59:04 PM
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I may have misread what you were saying, and this idea could be what you meant, but I'm lazy so I'll post it here.
What if the exams actually granted you more points. For instance, if you passed the Aviators exam you recieved 3 points. If you passed with distinction, you get an extra point. The SAE works the same way, giving you three more points in the pilot profeciencies to work with. MEs and the MAE, three more each. I don't know if that would be feasible, but it would be easy to keep track of.
Jegora Fal Nazgul Squadron Flight Leader FL/CPO Jegora Fal/Nazgul 2-1/Phoenix Wing/mSSD Atrus/1Flt/VEN/VE (=*A*=) (=*SA*=) [MC1] [LoT] Si vis pacem, para bellum --If you wish peace, prepare for war
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specter1000
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RE: Pilot Rating/Proficiency/Skill
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March 26, 2008
9:32:49 PM
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so how does all this works?
  To Embrace the Darkness is to bring About the Light... TRP/CPLspector1000/1SQD/2PLT/1COMP/1BAT/1RGT/Tadath/VEA/VE [CoS] [EW:2]
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Jegora Fal
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RE: Pilot Rating/Proficiency/Skill
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March 26, 2008
9:46:45 PM
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I think we're still trying to figure that out.
Jegora Fal Nazgul Squadron Flight Leader FL/CPO Jegora Fal/Nazgul 2-1/Phoenix Wing/mSSD Atrus/1Flt/VEN/VE (=*A*=) (=*SA*=) [MC1] [LoT] Si vis pacem, para bellum --If you wish peace, prepare for war
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StOrMz
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RE: Pilot Rating/Proficiency/Skill
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March 26, 2008
10:10:17 PM
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- OOC:
- The way we might approach it is by classifying ships by difficulty; for instance: the B-Wing and TIE Phantom may be more complex ships to fly simply because they have devices or steering mechanisms that differ greatly than the configurations we're used to. So- we might have both licenses and pilot proficiencies
i like that idea.
FM/LCRW StOrMz/Kaph 1-3/Wing 1/mSSD Atrus/DEF/VEN/VE (=A=)
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Shazam
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RE: Pilot Rating/Proficiency/Skill
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March 29, 2008
3:44:34 PM
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There's probably no problem affording people points based on some of the exams; we just wouldn't let them start messing with those points before they passed the SA, at which point we could say "Here's three points- for this: you can use all three or none at all- that's up to you..." And then, as you progress to those bigger exams, we afford more points, that type of thing. The idea that I don't want us to get in mind is that these point values somehow show a limit- that's just not correct: they would show a kind of norm. Afterall, just as everyone has a bad day where they can't seem to hit the broadside of a moisture vaporator, so, too, can we have days where we fly with brilliance: people sometimes exceed their own expectations. That doesn't make them better pilots though, lol- it's a fluke. So- these are more like guidelines that we would expect people to kind of follow along with. In all reality, they should mirror what we already do- new recruits shouldn't fly like aces, but aces shouldn't be able to take down every pilot they see: this is more like our own, personal evaluations of our characters' skills based on the region we're expected to be in.
If you've been flying for two years, you might have a wealth of points, but you may not use all of them because it's just not your character- he's better or worse at different things, so on and so forth. OR- we're getting to technical and we might just have some licenses and stick to the "this is how good my character is" idea where they just put points where they think they ought to be. I kind of like the second option better because it requires less observation, appears less technical, and, in my opinion, just feels like we have less red tape. Thoughts?
*Flash Was Here...*
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Jegora Fal
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RE: Pilot Rating/Proficiency/Skill
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March 29, 2008
4:20:41 PM
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I like the idea of simply opening up an unlimited number of points to a pilot after the SA and Commander approval. Hopefully, but then, the pilot is mature enough to understand that we can't all be gods.
Jegora Fal Nazgul Squadron Flight Leader FL/CPO Jegora Fal/Nazgul 2-1/Phoenix Wing/mSSD Atrus/1Flt/VEN/VE (=*A*=) (=*SA*=) [MC1] [LoT] Si vis pacem, para bellum --If you wish peace, prepare for war
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