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Darr-Rann
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  I need help with something
October 28, 2006 8:02:02 PM    View the profile of Darr-Rann 
I thought I might as well post in here to see if anyone would have a solution for this.

Recently I got a used computer for free, which has windows XP professional installed on it. Unfortunately, I do not have the administrator password, or the installer CD. Does anyone know a way I could get into it without having to fork out some real life money?

I'm willing to pay 100k ICs to whoever finds me a methood that works.
 
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  RE: I need help with something
October 28, 2006 8:47:11 PM    View the profile of Cosmic 
Without the Admin password, I think you're screwed. You can try changing the password at boot-up, but that probably requires that you confirm the new password by entering in the old one.
 
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  RE: I need help with something
October 28, 2006 10:55:13 PM    View the profile of Amason 
You have two options.

1.  If the data isn't worth much, take Cosmic's advice and just reformat/reinstall.

2.  If you really want to get in, do this:  Take the HD out of the PC, and put it in another PC, so that you can browse the file system.  You'll want to find "logon.scr".  I think it's in windows/system32, but if not, just do a search of that drive.  Rename it to "logon.scr.bak".  Now find cmd.exe.  I think it's in the same directory, but again, you may have to search.  Now make a copy of "cmd.exe", and rename it to "logon.scr".  Make sure that you leave it in the same directory as "logon.scr.bak".  Now put the drive back in the original PC, exactly like it was, and boot the PC.  When the logon prompt appears, let the PC sit for 10 or 15 minutes.  You'll want to wait until the logon screen saver normally appears, which can take a bit.  But now, instead of the logon screen savers, the command prompt will apprear.  When it does, type the following: "net user administrator password"  This will change the administrator password to "password".  If the administrator account is a different name, like "admin", you'll want to change the command line appropriately.  Now close the command prompt, and login with the administrator username, and "password" as the password.  It should work, but you might need to reboot after closing the command prompt if it doesn't work right after.

Please post your results.


 
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  RE: I need help with something
October 28, 2006 11:18:01 PM    View the profile of Darr-Rann 
I might try number two. I can install windows home on it, but I want the pro.

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[This message has been edited by Darr-Rann (edited October 28, 2006 11:39:12 PM)]
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  RE: I need help with something
October 29, 2006 12:30:29 AM    View the profile of Amason 
All you're doing is renaming cmd.exe to logon.scr, so that after 10 minutes or so, the system will execute logon.scr, which will actually run command prompt, allowing you to run a system command to rename any account, as long as you know the name of the account.   
 
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November 1, 2006 11:26:43 AM    View the profile of Riqimo 
When the computer is starting up press the button that allows you to enter "Setup" mode and get in via safe mode (I thinks is f-something...).  If you are lucky the person did not configure a password for this and you have admin rights.
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November 1, 2006 1:02:09 PM    View the profile of Amason 
That would be "F8". 
 
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November 3, 2006 2:52:43 PM    View the profile of Raigen 
Ok, during start up, if you press F11, IT DOES SYSTEM RECOVERY, this will set the computer back to starting condition, as in uninstall and delete everything. But I run and emachines and I don't know if it will work on yours or not.
 
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November 3, 2006 2:57:07 PM    View the profile of Garet Daimun 
The problem is that he doesn't have the installation CD. Without it, you just have a computer with no OS after f11.
 
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November 3, 2006 3:16:21 PM    View the profile of Raigen 
Mine has an internal recovery harddrive.
 
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  RE: I need help with something
November 3, 2006 3:18:02 PM    View the profile of Amason 
It probably won't work.  Usually any other "F" options are from proprietary programs that have been embedded/installed in the master boot record or Bios to allow for startup before the OS.  Some OEMs, such as eMachines do this, but many don't.
 
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  RE: I need help with something
November 3, 2006 9:52:45 PM    View the profile of Riqimo 
but good old F8 is my friend... gives me full admin access to school computers...  You didn't hear that from me...
 
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  RE: I need help with something
November 3, 2006 10:47:28 PM    View the profile of Darr-Rann 
Okay, I'm going to say it again - I want to keep the OS. I could install home XP on this, but I want to keep the Pro. I got this computer with nothing but the box and a sticker on the side with processor and OS info - I know it's 256mb ram from examination
 
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November 4, 2006 2:27:41 AM    View the profile of Amason 
The method I recommended in my first post WILL work if done properly, but it requires a bit of work. 
 
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  RE: I need help with something
November 6, 2006 10:14:43 AM    View the profile of Amason 
Have you solved your problem yet?
 
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  RE: I need help with something
November 6, 2006 12:26:31 AM    View the profile of Darr-Rann 
Havent had time yet.

Wait.

Is your avatar an animated Gif? I thought those didn't work on these forums...
 
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November 6, 2006 12:28:25 AM    View the profile of Amason 
Yes, a very old one at that.    I used to use it on the old Intruder Wing and New Imperium forums where the avatar sizes were 80x80.  It needs to be redone though.
 
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November 6, 2006 12:32:03 AM    View the profile of Darr-Rann 
How'd you get it to work here?
 
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November 6, 2006 12:32:32 AM    View the profile of Amason 
I just uploaded it.
 
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November 6, 2006 12:35:15 AM    View the profile of Darr-Rann 
That Worked?

I thought they had it set so animated gifs wouldn't function as avatars...
 
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November 6, 2006 12:38:16 AM    View the profile of Amason 
Yep, worked like a champ...  I'll eventually make another one at the correct size.  It's nothing special though.  It uses a 256 color web adaptive pallete.
 
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November 6, 2006 12:39:25 AM    View the profile of Darr-Rann 
I'm going to have to rethink my whole perspective on avatars now.
 
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November 6, 2006 12:40:52 AM    View the profile of Amason 
lol

I had another old one that showed an X-Wing exploding, and a TIE Defender flying out of the explosion towards the camera, but it was lost in an HD crash a while back.
 
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November 6, 2006 12:42:51 AM    View the profile of Darr-Rann 
Nice, too bad you lost it.
 
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November 6, 2006 12:45:14 AM    View the profile of Amason 
Yea.  I was going through some of my old backup CD's the other day and found some old 3DS Max scenes I did a while back, and I thought that one might be in those, but no luck.  :P
 
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November 6, 2006 12:47:05 AM    View the profile of Darr-Rann 
You seem quite competant with Comps - What kind of skillsets do you have? (If you dont mind me asking)
 
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November 6, 2006 12:58:15 AM    View the profile of Amason 
Hmm...  as far as PC's go, I have my A+, A+ Networking, and Cisco certs. I'm working on a degree in Network Administration.

Other skills would be:
HTML
dHTML
some PHP
some Flash
Shockwave

Apps:
Photoshop (all versions)
3D Studio Max 4-8
Lightwave 5.5 (old)
TrueSpace

That's it for the most part, although there is the possibility that I've left something out. 


 
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November 6, 2006 1:01:02 PM    View the profile of Darr-Rann 
Ah, quite a bit more qualified then me. I'm mostly taught:

Web Languages:
HTML
Flash (Although it isnt really a language)
A little PHP
Some ColdFusion

Application Languages:
Some VB.net
Some C
Some C++

Programs
Photoshop (CS2, I gues, the only one I've really used)

 
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November 6, 2006 1:03:36 PM    View the profile of Amason 
Looks like you've got more than enough there to be valuable to anyone. 
 
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November 6, 2006 3:29:34 PM    View the profile of Raigen 
Requimo...what about school firewalls...can you break those?
 
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