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RE: A good controversial topic
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November 23, 2001
11:05:55 PM
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Here is a topic sure to spark a feirce debate. Abortion- A woman's right or infanticide? -----------------------
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RE: A good controversial topic
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November 24, 2001
5:39:14 AM
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What a woman does with her own body is up to her, and, because we have the facilities to do things properly, doctors should help women abort their fetus' properly.
Kelly wants to get a tattoo (of a lobster on her "lower back"  ), and I respect that if she wants it, although I don't want her too. However, I can't stand the thought of some guy sticking a rusty needle into her, so I'd do anything I could to make sure it was done properly.. see what I mean? -----------------------
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RE: A good controversial topic
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November 24, 2001
8:13:35 AM
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I hope you don't mind me staying out of this topic. I have a feeling that my opinions are rather caustic and I don't wish to offend anyone. -----------------------
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RE: A good controversial topic
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November 24, 2001
9:01:30 AM
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Hey a little Tatoo on the right place looks not to bad -----------------------
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RE: A good controversial topic
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November 24, 2001
9:50:57 AM
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I have no pproblem with a woman doing whatever she wants to her body, but killing someone else is murder.
If you kill a baby5 seconds before it is born it is a legal abortion, if you kill it after its head pops out it is murder. Something is not right with this picture. -----------------------
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RE: A good controversial topic
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November 24, 2001
11:06:00 AM
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It's a sensitive issue. -----------------------
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RE: A good controversial topic
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November 24, 2001
12:15:46 AM
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I don't know how it works where you live, but its illegal to abort after 4 months (or about that), because if the baby is born after 4 months of pregnancy, it can, theoretically, survive outside the womb. Anything after 4 months is murder, and probably wrong.. -----------------------
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RE: A good controversial topic
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December 8, 2001
9:15:01 AM
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I know that i am off topic but i just wanted to say that my friend she would of had 3 more siblings but her mom killed all three of then and now she is the only child. Does anyone think thats right? |
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RE: A good controversial topic
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December 8, 2001
11:33:01 PM
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Depends on the reason. A hooker who has an abortion is a bad thing cause then she'll keep doing it. But someone who is not at a point in their life where they can handle kids should be allowed to. My opinion is the matter of sentience. When a baby is sentient, then it's murder. However, by our own rules about sentience, Chimps are also sentient. So, until we make it illegal to kill a chimp, I can use that as a precedent. If you are willing to declare killing a chimp murder(it would still stick to the same basic rules), then I wouldn't see a problem with the anti-abortion stuff. Sorry to introduce another topic here, but we humans are rather self centered. -----------------------
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RE: A good controversial topic
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December 9, 2001
8:00:32 AM
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Abortion is a debate which sometimes verges on the debate of contraception..
My personal views are:
If a woman has sex without either person using contraception, she is taking the risk to be impregnated and should not be allowed to abort her foetus.
If the woman or the man DO use contraception, and it fails (i.e. the condom splits), then the woman has been impregnated against her own will, so she should be allowed to abort her child. The same also goes for rape victims - if a woman is made pregnant by her rapist, she should be allowed to abort the foetus. -----------------------
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RE: A good controversial topic
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December 9, 2001
5:05:14 PM
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I haven't posted here for awhile since I figured that it wasn't the place for this discussion but since it has been reopened here goes.
First of all, no contraception save surgery is 100% effectivre, so they would still be taking a risk, and the condom splitting would not have the person be unwillfully impregnated. If the person was willing to drop their pants, they are taking a risk of getting pregnant. In the case of rape it still isn't right, that would be like murdering an innocent bystander who happened to be there at the scene of a crime.
As for the laws, they are hypocritical to the extreme. They say that it is murder if the being is self sufficent. But really, if you take a one year old and push it out the door, would it be able to survive without outside help? In order for a person to be declared legally dead, theyt must have no heartbeat and no discernable brain activity. Yet an unborn fetus is not considered fully alive by our laws despite the fact that by the time it is even detectable it has a functioning circulatory and nervous system. Doesn't this seem wrong to some of you? As for chimps, they do not function on the same level of conciosness as we do, so killing them should not be murder. -----------------------
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