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RE: Wars of Religion
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October 22, 2004
7:24:53 PM
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ah, but weather good or bad, those have little to do with religion, thier main concern is truth.
also some things are common belief, from and evolutionist point of view religion was invented to concrete law, murder and theft and such being wrong are common human beliefes and therefore have every place in law, however somebody who has truly thought it threw will question why these things are considered wrong, however i could get so far into that i'd never dig myself out, i will say that murder is only wrong under certain circumstances and that theft can be right under certain circumstances, most things can be justified to a point.
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RE: Wars of Religion
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October 23, 2004
6:58:42 PM
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No, I don't see many ways in which murder can be justified. Killing can be, such as self defense or the protection of others, but not murder
How is religion bad? Yes, there are fanatics who take it too far, but then you have fanatics in everything from religion to soccer to the enviroment. You can't blame religion as a whole because of a few stupid people that try to use it to justify their own cruelty. -----------------------
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RE: Wars of Religion
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October 23, 2004
7:06:09 PM
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somebody kills your wife, you kill them, justified murder, thank you very much, albeit i can see that definition easily abused, hence why its not legal. also situations vary. i never said religion was bad, i have my beliefs, that if you've noticed i keep to a point confidential. -----------------------
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RE: Wars of Religion
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October 23, 2004
7:13:05 PM
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Ah, but once you start having vengence and honor killings, your society's order goes flushing down the commode. Let the courts handle it, complete with stricter punishments, like the electric chair, or at least the gallows. None of that easy-out lethal injection. Gruesome rapist-murders deserve a worse death than floating away on a cloud. -----------------------
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RE: Wars of Religion
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October 23, 2004
7:22:22 PM
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see, i see vengence, under extreme circumstances, as acceptable, i dont see exicution, not only dose it deprive the victim, or the victims loved ones from feeling thier revenge, its also the infringment of the crinimals rights as a human being by people who had nothing to do with the case, and whos rights where never infringed on by the criminal. as i see it the death penalty is mentaly bankrupt in the sense i have just stated, for only are the victims or thier loved ones the only ones who are in a correct place to properly judge the situation, and decide thee severity of the crime. -----------------------
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October 23, 2004
7:31:07 PM
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Then allow the victims to flip the switch on the chair, or have a formal firing squad with the victims being the shooters. My point is that you need order, you can't have people running around arbitrarily killing each other, with the poor police feeling like chickens with their heads off trying to keep all the facts straight. -----------------------
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RE: Wars of Religion
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October 23, 2004
7:37:08 PM
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i said it can be justifieable, i dont think i said it should be legal, if i did, i'm sorry i made one big mistake in my process of putting thoughts onto the ComNet, it most definately should be illegal, for the sake of preserving some sence of order, although i still believe there are other things more important thatn order, it is a handy survival tool. -----------------------
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RE: Wars of Religion
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October 23, 2004
9:15:27 PM
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Well, I just think that murder is a little extreme. I can see beating the living snot out of someone, though. Ever see The Princess Bride? There was one part where they're about to fight a dual, and the one prince says "To the death!" The pirate says, "No, to the pain!" and then procedes to describe all the horrible things he's going to do to the prince, but leave the prince alive, so that the prince can suffer for the rest of his long, deformed, freakish life. -----------------------
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RE: Wars of Religion
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October 23, 2004
9:55:43 PM
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yep, love that movie, leave his ears. -----------------------
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RE: Wars of Religion
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October 27, 2004
4:03:29 PM
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I hate that movie... They showed it to us in history one time, it is so horribly done, and incredibly difficult to find any real humor, it just sucks in my opinion. Nothing like Men In Tights, but even that movie gets boring.
(There is no such thing as Justifiable Murder, Murder is Murder and we have no right to condemn someone to death, us or the government in my opinion.) -----------------------
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RE: Wars of Religion
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October 27, 2004
7:31:22 PM
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i will parade around justifieable murder in a moral sence, but not a lawfull sence, if order is what is wished justifiable murder shouldnt have a place, thats why when its justifiable its called justifieable homocide, because it was probably in self defence or defence of others. -----------------------
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RE: Wars of Religion
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October 28, 2004
7:27:02 PM
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No, if it's self defence or defence of others, it's not homicide, it's just killing. Homicide means murder. -----------------------
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RE: Wars of Religion
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October 28, 2004
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the legal term is "Justifieable Homocide" except spelled correctly, killing is laymens terms, Murder is killing without a legitimate, or 'good' reason -----------------------
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RE: Wars of Religion
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October 29, 2004
1:20:20 AM
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didn't some bibles say that its gods rather prefered to live in friendly relations with all other religion, than constantly going to war? |
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RE: Wars of Religion
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October 29, 2004
6:32:25 AM
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Not sure about that. Pretty sure though that the Christian faith is the only one that actually calls their religous book the "Bible." Like Islam calls theirs the "Koran."
I was told that the Koran says that jihad is only supposed to be defensive, so all these crazy Islamic terrorists are completely wrong in trying to use their faith as a justification to joy-kill Americans. -----------------------
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RE: Wars of Religion
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October 29, 2004
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thats what i meant the Koran, im not very religious, but i think that is what most religions intended their people to do, either be peaceful to others or be defensive, but never offensive. |
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RE: Wars of Religion
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October 29, 2004
9:46:36 AM
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The only time we've ever, as christians anyways, gone to war in that type of way, like real war for religion, was the Crusades... That happened several times... But atleast we had the knights templar... -----------------------
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RE: Wars of Religion
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October 29, 2004
3:26:17 PM
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Wasn't the Crusades against the Islamic or Muslims? Im pretty sure its one or the other. |
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RE: Wars of Religion
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October 29, 2004
7:11:42 PM
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it wasnt agaisnt the muslims per se, but an effort to recapture the 'Holy Lands' or basicaly the Byzantines saying to the pope: "Hey i need some help over here i got these musilims kicking my ass, can you like call a crusade so i can get some help?" -----------------------
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RE: Wars of Religion
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October 29, 2004
7:46:02 PM
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template for a religous war:
religous group #1: KILL THE INFIDELS! (in native language)
religous group #2: KILL THE INFIDELS! (in native language)
they kill each other with much enthusiasm...
isn't it funny that muslims, christains, and jews hate each other so much, and yet are all agree on a common, basic story. then the christains added on some more, then the muslims added on some more.
on a side note: isn't it funny how the middle eastern countries keep on trying to drive the jews into the sea, and yet keep on getting their asses handed to them on a platter? -----------------------
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RE: Wars of Religion
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October 29, 2004
7:49:49 PM
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lol, most religious wars though actualy have very little to do with the actual religion and more to do with peoples personal gains, they just use religion as an excuse, and its still one of the most attractive to people, athough in diffrent ways now.
and from a certain point of view what the musilums jihad against america is defensive, -----------------------
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RE: Wars of Religion
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October 29, 2004
8:14:36 PM
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Just like the 9/11, i dont think it had anything to do with region at all, yet some people say its all related to religion. |
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RE: Wars of Religion
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October 29, 2004
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if you must know i dont actualy believe that 9/11 was entirely bin laden, i find it destinctily possible that there was someone else guiding the strings. -----------------------
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October 29, 2004
9:26:50 PM
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i didn't say that i thought it was a religious move. |
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RE: Wars of Religion
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October 29, 2004
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you need an ID line, your calus and utter lack of one is annoying me. -----------------------
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October 29, 2004
9:38:36 PM
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either explain to me with more details or live with it. |
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RE: Wars of Religion
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October 29, 2004
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i cant, isnt there like some navy guys thats s'posed to, just put a damn quote there or something right now -----------------------
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RE: Wars of Religion
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October 29, 2004
11:56:50 PM
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Bin Laden saying he did it for religion is a complete contridiction of his supposed 'Beleif'. He is basing his moves on Fanatasism and thinks he has control, and sadly, he just might. You can tell exactly how super-imposed and cocky the guy is as of late. Right now he's attempting to sway the election... Maybe he can. *Sigh. -----------------------
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RE: Wars of Religion
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October 30, 2004
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yeah. . .or something. . .actualy the guy kind of reminds me of my little brother, except my little brother pretty much ignores polotics and religion. -----------------------
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October 30, 2004
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Osama Bin Laden reminds you of your little brother? Did he light his school on fire or something, lol? -----------------------
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