Maroy
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Chat Client
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December 15, 2015
3:09:18 PM
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I figured now would be the time to bring up options for realtime chat options, IRC or otherwise. How about Slack? It has a free plan, client apps for almost every platform, including in-browser, and a lot of superficial similarities to IRC like channels that should make the transition easier. It even lets XMPP/Jabber/IRC clients connect to it, if I remember correctly. The only real gotcha I can think of is that it's invitation-based. We tried using Jabber for the Empire's Edge, and that proved to be more than we needed, in my opinion. Never found a decent mobile client for it, either. We could try to use a free IRC host, although that limits the channel control we have and requires us to prefix everything. Lastly, I can set up an IRC server on my end, although I can't promise there won't be very occasional outages.
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Mongrel
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RE: Chat Client
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December 15, 2015
4:42:31 PM
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My dealings with Slack have generally been favorable. Jabber was kind of a nightmare to set up and was pretty universally unloved and I just feel that IRC is just too dated. I don't have a solution, I may come up with one it the future, but probably not, I'm just pointing this out.
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THX1138
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RE: Chat Client
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December 15, 2015
4:58:16 PM
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"He has his orders, and when a Chiss accepts orders he carries them out, period." Smile for death TRP/CPL THX-1138/4SQD/1PLT/1COM/1BAT/1RGT/Tadath/VEA/VE [ES1][EW1][SoC][*QW 12*][*ESC*12*](ECA)(HeS)(2.1)(2.2)(A11) 
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Trykon
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RE: Chat Client
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December 15, 2015
6:12:14 PM
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THX1138 wrote:AOL Messenger. :P
Lol. Jabber never took off, over at the EE. I have no idea. I know the features we want and concerns that've been voiced, though: 1, some people like to keep a tab open in their browser, with chat open. 2, some people want to be able to have the chat work on their phone as an app. 3, some people like the "rooms" set up the IRC had. 4, most people think IRC itself is a little too dated for them to prefer it.
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RE: Chat Client
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December 15, 2015
7:41:44 PM
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Maroy
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RE: Chat Client
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December 15, 2015
7:58:29 PM
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TeamSpeak is a decent option, although I've heard hosting a TS server requires a lot more system resources.
I've figured out a way to create a sign-up form for Slack rather than having manual invites, so that solves that particular issue.
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RE: Chat Client
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December 15, 2015
8:19:26 PM
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Oh, I have a teamspeak that we can use, now that I think about it.
Can hold 30 clients currently and waiting on a Non-profit license for a 512 slot server.
Let me know what you all think and I'll put it out for use.
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Drac
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RE: Chat Client
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December 15, 2015
10:54:45 PM
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Teamspeak would be great, if used properly. We'll still need to record a log of decisions and major conversation points, but being able to talk to each other rocks. Especially for just hanging out.
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Aeos
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RE: Chat Client
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December 15, 2015
11:02:37 PM
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I pretty much hang there with my guild, so would love to have VE channel :P
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Maroy
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RE: Chat Client
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December 16, 2015
3:10:23 PM
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I went ahead and set up a Slack for the VE. You'll need to sign up at vastempire.info to get the invitation email.
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Trykon
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RE: Chat Client
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December 16, 2015
3:58:03 PM
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Ooooo. I love it! It's like irc, updated. Gotta check out the mobile app, now...
Just so we're clear: this is free? Talon or somebody isn't going to have to pay out of pocket, anymore?
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Maroy
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RE: Chat Client
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December 16, 2015
4:05:56 PM
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Totally free. There are paid tiers, but the free one should cover almost everyone we'd need it for.
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Trykon
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RE: Chat Client
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December 16, 2015
4:46:32 PM
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I mean, it sort of seems perfect. IRC, only better.
Is there a way to take minutes during meetings? You know, temporarily record the chat, like we used to do on IRC?
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Maroy
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RE: Chat Client
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December 16, 2015
5:16:40 PM
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Not built in, but I could easily wire up a bot and have it automatically post logs to vastempire.info.
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Trykon
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RE: Chat Client
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December 16, 2015
6:03:23 PM
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There are long swaths of history where you would have been burned as a witch, you know that? Excellent. Not you burning to death, excellent! The fact that you can bend technology to your will, excellent.
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Maroy
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RE: Chat Client
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December 16, 2015
6:42:26 PM
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Haha! I'll work on making it prettier, but for now, you can access logs at vastempire.info/logs/. To record logs, tell V3P0 to "start logging" or "stop logging" in any channel he's in, e.g. "3P0, start logging!".
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Drac
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RE: Chat Client
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December 19, 2015
4:34:53 PM
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With the club's Slack site now well established, it would be a good idea for someone who has the appropriate mod powers to un-sticky the following topics in the Main ComNet since they're no longer relevant and may mislead new folks:
IRC Tutorial
IRC Server
Basic mIRC Commands
There are probably more of those old stickied topics that could stand to be un-stickied, but those three for sure are no longer useful. And it'd help clean things up.
-Drac
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Havock
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RE: Chat Client
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December 19, 2015
4:46:11 PM
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Done.
Anyone interested in writing up a Slack tutorial to put in their place?
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Trykon
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RE: Chat Client
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December 20, 2015
12:19:54 AM
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Hey, Maroy: want a fun job? 
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Gurlanin
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RE: Chat Client
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December 20, 2015
10:16:11 AM
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I'll write something up later. Maybe even have some pretty pictures in it just for you, Trick!
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Havock
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RE: Chat Client
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December 20, 2015
11:06:31 AM
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For Trick? Not for me? Well I never! /me stomps her foot and storms off in a flurry
Lol but seriously thank you Gur for getting on that.
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Gurlanin
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RE: Chat Client
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December 20, 2015
2:38:35 PM
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Havock
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RE: Chat Client
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December 21, 2015
8:00:56 AM
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Awwww you love me you really love me! <3
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Trykon
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RE: Chat Client
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December 22, 2015
1:27:04 AM
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Maroy, you're fired. J/k!  Thanks again, for sorting out Slack, and hosting the email invitations thing. You're awesome.
Thanks too, Gurlanin! Looks great. 
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