I like the combined arms unit thing Snipes had brought up. We don't have to keep a huge system and mostly empty roster. We need something we can start off with grow into it if need be.

Mostly, let's archive what we can for reference, and go forward with a relatively clean start.

I totally agree with the combining. Especially since it's clear the Army is quite lacking in numbers compared to the Navy atm. And a clean slate is always a good plan.

Sounds like almost everyone is in agreement about archiving and rebooting, from what I'm reading on the ComNet and the Facebook message thread.

And I'm with everyone here, as far as a smaller, combined-arms unit: I say heck yeah, let's do it!  The reasons we had the conversation years ago are still valid.

But saying that brings me back to Slasher's original point, though: how do we decide what that looks like?  I'm already finding myself starting to tune out the various debates that are popping up everywhere (when should we start the new timeline, should we jettison the old club lore about specific planets, and if so, which ones, etc.), because after the experience with the EE, I'm wary of everyone in a group of more than a dozen having an equal say, when it comes time to make every decision.  Every little thing gets dragged out, and then most people aren't satisfied with the inevitable compromise.

As full of weird stuff as the old VE's history and lore was, at least everyone signing up knew they were committing to it, warts and all.

Am I making sense?  It's early; I check the ComNet over caffeine.

I agree about everything you just said, Drac, with a big fat caveat: the two-three people who are in Charge (with a capital C) have to be active/responsive, or else we're right back where we started when the club died and the active folks decided to start the EE to try to keep things going.

Still full of respect for all three people you named, and I've seen all three of them chime in, in the past week.  But we need more than chiming in, from the people in the role you/I are talking about.  I mean, right?  I don't mean to speak for you.  That just seems like a given, considering what the past 5 years of VE (slash, EE) history have looked like.

I'm around. Although, I can't say I would be senior.

Is there a chat space outside of the fb one?

- Sam

It's shiny!  Get on!