Serpent wrote:6.  Again, more of a VE-wide thing than a Naval-specific one, but we need to sort out the wiki.  Seriously.  When I came to this site, I had a lot of trouble deducing where the VE was in the Star Wars timeline, how far and when it had diverged (if at all), and what major villains/heroes there were about in the galaxy.

The wiki's timeline is incomplete, its list of rival empires is a joke (the villain of the current major battle, the Imperial Dominion, is not even mentioned on the wiki!  So like, who the heck are these guys?), and details of what systems we control is either out of date or directly contradicts data on the Main Page.

New members wanting to get an idea of how to write a character background need to know when we are set, where we are set, and who we fight.  Several times now I have seen newbies writing about enlisting to the Academy on Coruscant (which we don't control) or omitting the word 'Vast' from their Imperial descriptions, thus belaying that they think we are the Imperial Remnant and not a splinter faction.

We have got to sort that out so as not to deter new members!

Raziel wrote:Sorry to sneak onto your boards, but Serpent has a good point. The wiki is very messy now, and almost requires a clean slate in certain areas to help people get orientated.

I discussed this previously:

http://comnet.imperialnetwork.com/topic/14898/

and

http://comnet.imperialnetwork.com/topic/14903/

We need to synchronise boards across the divisions, I need to publicly release some info from the DJO bards that has galaxy-wide implications and we need to have a decent set of pages that introduce all newbies to our current position and is agreed upon and used by all divisions.

Sorry I know the thrust of this thread is to do with other Naval organisations, but thought I'd add to that.

Yeah, this is something I have definately wanted to work on, but I wanted to focus on getting us rolling first where we take that momentum and keep it going with wiki work on the side and whatnot.  Honestly, the Navy side of the wiki is a mess.  For one extreme example, I tried to find your certifications program one day, took me a good fourty minutes just to *locate* it.  There's so many incomplete pages as well just laying in plain sight that act as if they are quite relevant in their placements and linking, and then old abandoned programs being listed as if they are still operating.  It's a confusing mess, really.

I've been around for most of the change processes tho, and can only imagine the confusion newer members face.  The Imperial Dominion has been around for at least a year now, and we don't have a wiki page up for this recurring enemy?  Yeah, that will be needing work.

Although my focus is the Navy's structure right now, the wiki is not off my radar entirely.  I just hope to keep things operating smoothly and prevent confusion by rewriting/nuking the wiki at the same time.  That doesn't mean you aren't unwelcome to comment on things that might need work however, or ask questions.

Serpent wrote:Not sure if you know, Oops, but I recently re-did the medals pages for the wiki.  I am no expert on making wiki pages, but I have some experience, and if at a later date you need people to take on some revision projects, please consider me willing to help!

I do indeed know, I've gone over most of the command net posts since I was last here, that was one of the ones that caught my eye.  It was very nice to see a cleanup attempt aiming at making things easier to understand and consolidating redundant awards.  We might want to do some more work with them later, but that's not something to worry about now.

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Also in regards to the timeline stuff.  Yeah it's been a glaring issue for a while now.  Essentially in short, the VE runs the time advancement with "Chapter" stories.  These are VE-wide stories including every division on an epic scale to advance the VE-storyline as a whole.  We have been waiting for Chapter 9 for a long time now, which should advance us to about 12 ABY at last I heard.  When that time comes, there will probably be some work to figure out when your promotons came in-universe, if you are so inclined to make it fit better.

I also like to use the school of thought that your character was a part of the VE before you were.  For example, I had retcon'd Riqimo in the Imperial Ground Corps before being placed into the Stormtrooper Corps, fudging some of his lower ranks into that.

Really, there's so many ways to have things make sense, but if you fudge something it might alter other things to the point that we can't consider it canon in the VE storyline.  Some caution does have to be advised in those cases.  The easiest way to dismiss something as non-canon is probably to declare it a simulation.  Still it can leave a slightly sour taste in one's mouth.

A quick note: If I recall correctly we officially made the advance to 12 ABY about six months ago.

-Drac

I'll see if I can find it. It was a while back, and may even have been on IRC. Your best bet for a solid answer is to PM Fury.

-Drac

We've been operating in 12 ABY for at least as long as I've been here.  I inquired upon joining, and was told by ranking members at that time that we were writing in 12 ABY.  As a result, that's what I've been answering when asked by new people.  If we want to retcon, we can I suppose, but easier just to leave things at 12, for my money.

Alright chaps, Friday is when it all goes down.  I got a lot of stuff set yesterday and today, but I need to consult some of my notes I accidentally left in Seattle to make sure I didn't overlook anything or made a mistake, and that's when I get back.  You'll get quite a few pages of things to go through, and it should be the final product, save for any revisions you folks want.

I'll also have something up where I'm giving away the complete Jedi Knight game series.  So keep an eye out for that, especially if you want to play it :P

Stormz wanted a review first, so it will be delayed slightly, as well as some of my software fighting me, but it's a very minor delay I assure you.