The VE Marine Corps is restricted to SWTOR players alone.

The VEN's Marine Corps is a story based division for the Navy's members to take if they wish to do ground based, and air/space based combat.

So, in effect, you don't need to be in the VEMC to be an IC Marine for the Navy.

the VEN employs Marines strictly in a NPC capacity. they are merely tools to allow us to board other ships or secure a beachhead in the event of a quick incursion.

never fear, if we plan to do any large-scale planetary subjugation we will save all the oppression and occupation for our Army brethren.

we use them as NPC's only when we are in a hurry. we do not want to have to beg army folk for one-off posts, or to die...as we tend to kill Marines at a goodly pace.

as stated before...we use the marines as NPC's in boarding scenes and SOME land based SHORT-TERM actions.

we will be happy to ferry the Army's leaden tushies to any planet when the time comes for full-on invasion.

they are literary tools, they are expendable and disposable.

...now, about that VSD the Army owns... ;P

that's crewed by NPC navy crewman? Yes would you like me to have them park it somewhere in particular

Hades, have you considered piracy?

On the contrary....
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Quote:As someone who has used Marines IC, and probably has the most "experience" doing so, their separation from the Army is not only a good idea, but Absolutely necessary to some extent.

I must have confused you, I want the Naval Marines separate. I want nothing to do with them.

Quote:While you may call us if you need a ride between planets, as the commander of a Victory Class Star Destroyer, i don't have the luxury of sitting and waiting for a company of Army soldiers to get on a shuttle, hyper out to my location, and then board the ship i've tractored into my launch bay.

You could as the commander, ask for a squad to accompany you...but that would require pre-planning and all kinds of other tiresome things. NPCs are so hard to wrangle, I totally understand how its easier to create a new subdivision.

Quote: i have Imperial Marines for Boarding Actions, as well as to crew the ship once it has been captured, an Imperial Marine is a regular navy crewman who has been given special additional training in close quarters combat, how to avoid collatoral damage when engaged with an enemy within the confines of a ship's hull, and who while they may occasionally be sent to the ground to secure an area, they only do so when there isn't a handy Army unit.

This I understand, fine you have specialized pilots that know how to use a gun. I won't even get into how crewing a SSD and Boarding one is so violently different it makes my head pain to think of one person being a pilot, gunslinger, explosives expert, and SSD driver/gunner/every other job on the ship.

Quote:The army has never, and will never, have a place in ship-to-ship combat, if it is an attack on a planet, that is your realm, but if it is happening in space, it is the Navy's.

So the army has NEVER boarded a ship in space....really? You sure about that one hot shot.

I'm done, this whole thing has gotten out of proportion. Have your marines, do not ever ask to assist us on our Specs, and I won't try to understand your anything. I have enough gray hairs as it is.

Quote:The army has never, and will never, have a place in ship-to-ship combat, if it is an attack on a planet, that is your realm, but if it is happening in space, it is the Navy's.

1:40 in the video.  The first 10 minutes of all Star Wars kind of makes it clear that the STC fights in space.  That's how awesome they are.

oh...did i forget to mention i knew this, and poisoned the bottles i left int there...damn, where's my memory gone.

Didn't NPC "Marines" play a role in the ESC?

You've all got it wrong, but that's because of a flaw in the VE's very composition, not that of the new division.

As Ron has shown, Stormtrooper can and do regularly operate in boarding actions.

The Imperial Army, however does not. They're used for garrison duties on-world, and man vehicles during planetary assaults (Hoth and Endor)

The Imperial Navy doesn't bother with boarding actions either - they're also garrison-based and defensive, as was shown on the original Death Star (Specifically, detention block).

The STC were independent of both Army and Navy, but worked co-operatively with both. This was their greatest strength. Pretty much every front-line ship had a contingent of Stormtroopers.

Why? As a rapid-reaction force. If something went wrong, the Navy could jump in-system, use its cap ships and fighters to clear the skies, and send in the Stormtroopers with Army Support to kick some ass, all the while providing air support.

And, if something needed boarding, they had excellent shock troops on hand.

What am I trying to get at? That combats were almost never single-division affairs. If the Stormtroopers moved, they did so with Army and Navy support. If the Army got in a bind, the Stormtroopers would be on hand to bail them out. (And the Navy would bomb the shit out of anything that moved) If the Navy got boarded or planned to board others, they sent in the Stormtroopers.

TL;DR: The Stormtroopers were NOT part of the Imperial Army. Making them such is retarded.

Problem is, in the VE, the STC and Navy have nothing to do with each other, except for super-rare one-off situations.

How silly.