Avalar
ComNet Member

[VE-DJO] Initiate [VE-NAVY] Chief Petty Officer
Post Number: 620
Total Posts: 786
Joined: Jul 2010
Status: Offline
|

RE: Main Page Content Revision
|
|
July 16, 2013
5:48:28 PM
|
|
In terms of typefaces, I say a lot of it also depends on colors. Think about having our white text be in a serif type. Certain typefaces might make it look nice, but I can imagine the serifs might interfere rather than add to it.
Hooooowever, I have always been of the mind that display types are generally sans serifs and text types are serifs. It all really depends on what typefaces we decide to use and the colors and sizes. It's also smart to only have two typefaces on the entire site. Any more and we will lose our design to too much variance.
Also one design secret when it comes to black and white: never do full black or full white. Darken the white or lighten the black just a touch so that it's unnoticeable to most people, but it also takes the strain off the eyes.
SCO | CPO Avalar | Silver 1 | S:46 Jexxel | W:101 Blade | ISD Adjudicator | TF:A | 2Flt | VEN | VE [SoA] [MC1] [CC: W] [DSM] [CBV] [CC: D] [CNQST]
TRN | INI Zarya | VEDJ | VE
|
Maroy
ComNet Member

[VE-NAVY] Warrant Officer 1st Class
Post Number: 628
Total Posts: 718
Joined: Feb 2010
Status: Offline
|

RE: Main Page Content Revision
|
|
July 16, 2013
9:52:11 PM
|
|
Dunno if they'll be of any use, but my web coding abilities and webserver (once it's back up) are at your disposal. 
XO/WO1/ Maroy/Silver 5/S:46 "Jexxel" W:101 "Blade"/ISD Adjudicator/TF:A|2FL|SC|VEN|VE (=*A*=) [GCM] [CBV] [IG]x2 [MC2] [MC1] [VC:B] [LoM] [CC: P] [CC: W] [CC: D] [LC]
|
Trykon
ComNet Sage

[VE-DJO] Dark Jedi Warrior [VE-NAVY] Commodore
Post Number: 3240
Total Posts: 3784
Joined: Feb 2011
Status: Offline
|

RE: Main Page Content Revision
|
|
July 17, 2013
6:04:26 AM
|
|
Again, the in-browser editors let me play with copy in context, which is helpful, so I went ahead and tried Weebly, as Raz suggested. It's about as temperamental as Wix. Still, since it's more rigidly template-based, it makes for a very different look, overall. Here's the very rough site I threw together: http://vastempire.weebly.com/Compare that to the wix site: http://willtrichon.wix.com/vastempireMostly, I'm working on content (taglines, copy, etc.) right now. So try to keep your comments at this point to that, more than visuals (which won't get much better until I get past the weebly learning curve). But Raz, if the weebly code is indeed exportable, I'll go ahead and mock up the whole thing on there (learning/adjusting CSS as I go), and then we can just give Kadann the code to plug into the VE domain. But also, I stress again that even just a rewrite of the content on www.vastempire.com/main, and then moving that content to www.vastempire.com, would be a great, easy-to-implement improvement over what we have now. No need to wait for the full overhaul.
Naval High CommandCNO /Commodore Trykon /NHC /VEN /VE Second Vast Imperial FleetSCAP /COM Wyl "Trick" Trykon/ISD Adjudicator/TF:A /2Flt /FC /VEN /VE Decorations[*IG*][*AO*][HNS][1NS][2NS][LSM][BWC][SWC][GWC][CC:4][CNQST] [NSM][E][NAR][MSM][SoA][CoB][VC:B][VC:S][VC:G][VC:E][SoV][LoM][DSM][NC][IGC](=*AE* =)(=*SAE* =)(=*TG* =)(=*SCFE* =)(=*FOCE* =) SM/DWR Trykon/Dark Jedi/Shades/Raven L-04/DJO/VE [EoP]
[This message has been edited by
Trick
(edited July 17, 2013
6:23:22 AM)]
|
Trykon
ComNet Sage

[VE-DJO] Dark Jedi Warrior [VE-NAVY] Commodore
Post Number: 3274
Total Posts: 3784
Joined: Feb 2011
Status: Offline
|

RE: Main Page Content Revision
|
|
July 25, 2013
6:38:07 PM
|
|
I'm using this as an excuse to actually learn a bit of HTML and CSS, now. But I'd still prefer doing most of the work for a VE site update in something like weebly. Raz, if I generate a complete weebly site, can you clean up the code and hand it to Kadann? Different looks: http://vastempire.weebly.com - clean, white, OOC http://thevastempire.weebly.com - dark, grungy, IC http://willtrichon.wix.com/vastempire - dark, big background image with transparent panes
Naval High CommandCNO /Commodore Trykon /NHC /VEN /VE Second Vast Imperial FleetSCAP /COM Wyl "Trick" Trykon/ISD Adjudicator/TF:A /2Flt /FC /VEN /VE Decorations[*IG*][*AO*][HNS][1NS][2NS][LSM][BWC][SWC][GWC][CC:4][CNQST] [NSM][E][NAR][MSM][SoA][CoB][VC:B][VC:S][VC:G][VC:E][SoV][LoM][DSM][NC][IGC](=*AE* =)(=*SAE* =)(=*TG* =)(=*SCFE* =)(=*FOCE* =) SM/DWR Trykon/Dark Jedi/Shades/Raven L-04/DJO/VE [EoP]
[This message has been edited by
Trick
(edited July 26, 2013
4:48:20 AM)]
|
Aeos
ComNet Sage

[VE-ARMY] Captain [VE-DJO] Dark Jedi Warrior [VE-ICS] Pirate Overseer [VE-VEEC] Engineer
Post Number: 3028
Total Posts: 3141
Joined: May 2005
Status: Offline
|

RE: Main Page Content Revision
|
|
July 28, 2013
10:17:46 AM
|
|
I'm LOVING the grunge
Big vote for that visual style.
|
Avalar
ComNet Member

[VE-DJO] Initiate [VE-NAVY] Chief Petty Officer
Post Number: 639
Total Posts: 786
Joined: Jul 2010
Status: Offline
|

RE: Main Page Content Revision
|
|
July 28, 2013
10:39:05 AM
|
|
I vote for dark grunge IC too. The first one is my second choice. The third one rubs me the wrong way.
SCO | CPO Avalar | Silver 1 | S:46 Jexxel | W:101 Blade | ISD Adjudicator | TF:A | 2Flt | VEN | VE [SoA] [MC1] [CC: W] [DSM] [CBV] [CC: D] [CNQST]
TRN | INI Zarya | VEDJ | VE
|
Norsedragoon
ComNet Novice

[VE-NAVY] Senior Crewman
Post Number: 48
Total Posts: 114
Joined: Jun 2011
Status: Offline
|

RE: Main Page Content Revision
|
|
July 28, 2013
12:07:06 AM
|
|
definite vote for the grungy one, the white seems a bit to clean cut for me. Also like the third choice but it seems to represent more of a full mmo instead of the forum based rpg.
FM/PO2/Einarr "Norsedragoon" Ghylthir/unassigned/S:46 Jexxel/W:101 Blade/ISD Adjudicator /TF:A/2Flt/FC/VEN/VE
[MC2] [SoA]
|
Raziel
ComNet Disciple

[VE-ARMY] High Colonel [VE-DJO] Dark Jedi Primarch [VE-ICS] Privateer
Post Number: 2816
Total Posts: 2873
Joined: Feb 2001
Status: Offline
|

RE: Main Page Content Revision
|
|
July 28, 2013
2:31:17 PM
|
|
That weebly stuff is much cleaner. There should be an option on the site to package it off and export. If there is a fee for it, let me know.
|
Serpent
ComNet Member Imperial Baronet

[VE-NAVY] Lieutenant Commander
Post Number: 996
Total Posts: 1214
Joined: Jul 2011
Status: Offline
|

RE: Main Page Content Revision
|
|
July 28, 2013
4:50:44 PM
|
|
I'd have to go for the grunge too. Fantastic work!
Naval High Command CNW|Lieutenant Commander Zail|NHC|VEN|VE SCAP/LCDR Pherik “Serpent” Zail / VSD Brilliant /TF:Aurek/2Flt/FC/VEN/VE [SoA][LoM][NAR][E][SoV][MiD][MC1][VC:E][CAR][AOx3][CoB.][NC][CC:3][CNQST][PWC][2NS][LSM](=*Eng*=)(=*BO*=)
|
Trykon
ComNet Sage

[VE-DJO] Dark Jedi Warrior [VE-NAVY] Commodore
Post Number: 3280
Total Posts: 3784
Joined: Feb 2011
Status: Offline
|

RE: Main Page Content Revision
|
|
July 29, 2013
1:02:26 AM
|
|
Raz, it looks like there are options for exporting the code from weebly, though I think it's a bit of a third-party-invented work-around sort of deal, rather than a feature weebly provides/intends. That said, I'm actually picking up the basics of CSS and HTML much more quickly than I thought I would, so I should be able to reproduce the Weebly site code in an IDE to some extent. The big problem I foresee is anything fancy, like jQuery, javascript, or any of the integrated parts of the Imperial Network that require more than bare bones CSS/HTML (things like the Roster, for example). We can talk more about it via PM, though.
Everybody else: thanks for the feedback! I'll keep working the IC angle, with a sort of grungy, "used Universe" feeling.  And I'll keep giving updates as the work progresses!
Add CSS and HTML to the list of things the VE has inspired me to finally teach myself. 
Naval High CommandCNO /Commodore Trykon /NHC /VEN /VE Second Vast Imperial FleetSCAP /COM Wyl "Trick" Trykon/ISD Adjudicator/TF:A /2Flt /FC /VEN /VE Decorations[*IG*][*AO*][HNS][1NS][2NS][LSM][BWC][SWC][GWC][CC:4][CNQST] [NSM][E][NAR][MSM][SoA][CoB][VC:B][VC:S][VC:G][VC:E][SoV][LoM][DSM][NC][IGC](=*AE* =)(=*SAE* =)(=*TG* =)(=*SCFE* =)(=*FOCE* =) SM/DWR Trykon/Dark Jedi/Shades/Raven L-04/DJO/VE [EoP]
|
Skarr
ComNet Disciple Imperial Supporter

[VE-ARMY] 1st Lieutenant [VE-DJO] Journeyman [VE-ICS] Pirate Swabbie [VE-VEEC] Word Slinger
Post Number: 2033
Total Posts: 2102
Joined: Feb 2010
Status: Offline
|

RE: Main Page Content Revision
|
|
August 4, 2013
1:14:26 AM
|
|
Yeah, I'm definitely digging the second one. That's a great design, haha.
CoT:A|PC|SL/1LT Skarr/Blackjack/Wildcard/Phoenix/VEA [CDS][ES2][IH][CRoM]{RES}(VT)(ECA)(WtR)(HeS)(HoS)(AS-3)(1.1)(1.2)(3.1)(A5)(A8) TRN/JRN Vexus/Lopen/VEDJ (WoS1)"A leader leads by example, not by force" Sun Tzu, The Art of War 
|
Trykon
ComNet Sage

[VE-DJO] Dark Jedi Warrior [VE-NAVY] Commodore
Post Number: 3383
Total Posts: 3784
Joined: Feb 2011
Status: Offline
|

RE: Main Page Content Revision
|
|
September 24, 2013
9:23:26 PM
|
|
Still-respectful bump.
VEHC, hear our prayer.
Naval High CommandCNO /Commodore Trykon /NHC /VEN /VE Second Vast Imperial FleetSCAP /COM Wyl "Trick" Trykon/ISD Adjudicator/TF:A /2Flt /FC /VEN /VE Decorations[*IG*][*AO*][WM0][HNS][1NS][2NS][LSM][BWC][SWC][GWC][CC:4][CNQST] [NSM][E][NAR][MSM][SoA][CoB][VC:B][VC:S][VC:G][VC:E][SoV][LoM][DSM][NC][IGC](=*AE* =)(=*SAE* =)(=*TG* =)(=*SCFE* =)(=*FOCE* =) SM/DWR Trykon/Dark Jedi/Shades/Raven L-04/DJO/VE [EoP]
|
StOrMz
ComNet Disciple Imperial Baronet

[VE-NAVY] Vice Admiral [VE-VEEC] Ink Slinger [VE-VEHC] Vice Admiral* [VE-VEMC] Brigadier General
Post Number: 2064
Total Posts: 2218
Joined: Oct 2004
Status: Offline
|

RE: Main Page Content Revision
|
|
September 25, 2013
10:17:24 PM
|
|
Naval High Command NCC|Vice Admiral StOrMz|NHC|VEN|VE
First Naval Fleet C-SCAP|Vice Admiral|mSSD Atrus|Task Force: Aurek|First Fleet|VEN|VE
[NSM][IG][SWC][SRC][BI][IGC][MoH][MC2] (=A=)(=^SA^=)(=ME=)(=*MAE*=)(=FOCE=)(=*TG*=)(=*ENG*=)(=*BO*=)(=AFM=)(=VM=)(=COM=)  Imperial Baronet of Kashyyyk
|
Drac
ComNet Disciple

[VE-DJO] Initiate [VE-NAVY] Captain [VE-VEMC] 2nd Lieutenant
Post Number: 2036
Total Posts: 2191
Joined: Jan 2009
Status: Offline
|

RE: Main Page Content Revision
|
|
September 26, 2013
8:04:18 PM
|
|
Adding my support. We really need to make this site update! At least talk to us on this. Please? If there're hurdles that make it problematic, let us know so we can try to work stuff out. These guys have been pouring their hearts into this project for more than two years now. Can't they get some dialogue at least?
We can do more groveling too, if that will help.
-Drac
TFC/CAPT Drac/ISD II Halcyon Warrior/TF: Besh/1Flt/FC/VEN/VE Captain of the ISD II Halcyon Warrior [SoA][MC1][MC2x2][NSR1][NT1][SoV][CBV][SoL][SWC][NSR][GCR][GWC][*AO*](=*A*=)(=*SA*=) "Think Ackbar, but Imperial."
TRN/INI Drac/VEDJ
|
Skarr
ComNet Disciple Imperial Supporter

[VE-ARMY] 1st Lieutenant [VE-DJO] Journeyman [VE-ICS] Pirate Swabbie [VE-VEEC] Word Slinger
Post Number: 2053
Total Posts: 2102
Joined: Feb 2010
Status: Offline
|

RE: Main Page Content Revision
|
|
September 26, 2013
9:15:20 PM
|
|
Throwing my support into this and also stating that the Army wants this change too. It's not just the Navy boys. 
CoT:A|PC|SL/1LT Skarr/Blackjack/Wildcard/Phoenix/VEA [CDS][ES2][IH][CRoM]{RES}(VT)(ECA)(WtR)(HeS)(HoS)(AS-3)(1.1)(1.2)(3.1)(A5)(A8) TRN/JRN Vexus/Lopen/VEDJ (WoS1)"A leader leads by example, not by force" Sun Tzu, The Art of War 
|