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October 10, 2008 12:01:35 AM    View the profile of Japheth 
So, apparently LucasArts and Bioware have invited some press out to some shindig on October 21 (a week from Tuesday) to announce "the game that's been rumored about for years". Many are thinking its a KOTOR-based MMORPG. That, in my opinion, would be awesome (or rather, could be awesome).

Here's the article: http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3170438

Discuss.

[Edit: Changed thread title to reflect the name of the game now that we know it.]
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  RE: A New Star Wars MMORPG
October 10, 2008 12:29:01 AM    View the profile of Tanus Solvona 
I would very much like to see this as a possibility. A KOTOR MMO would be excellent. However, I'm having second thoughts about it solely being in KOTOR. I say span it out over time periods, or at least start it off with Bane; after Revan and the Sith Triumvirate, not much seems to happen.
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October 10, 2008 2:40:38 PM    View the profile of Liquid 
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October 10, 2008 4:55:12 PM    View the profile of Decembrist 
I'd love to see a good Star Wars MMO... just not KotOR.

KotOR is about story. MMOs are about making money. The two don't mix. KotOR as an MMO would be disastrous.
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October 10, 2008 5:19:42 PM    View the profile of Starbukk 
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October 10, 2008 6:05:07 PM    View the profile of Japheth 
My thought is that an Old Republic era game is WIDE open as far as Star Wars canon goes. You can pretty easily create your two factions with the Republic on one side and the Sith on the other, and possibly have more factions such as the Hutts.

When they say its a 'KOTOR' game, I hope it is -not- KOTOR. I want a game set in the SW universe, LONG before the movies, that still feels essentially like Star Wars.
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October 10, 2008 6:57:07 PM    View the profile of Cosmic 
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October 11, 2008 4:49:02 AM    View the profile of Jager 
Second job that doesnt pay. Its either


A: going to be a WoW clone,

B: Fail and be scraped before

or

C: Fail like so many before it,

And to top it off, Kotor is somewhat of a dead franchise... no amount of grinding and leveling will ever make it as good as the first or in some cases the second game
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My thought is that an Old Republic era game is WIDE open as far as Star Wars canon goes. You can pretty easily create your two factions with the Republic on one side and the Sith on the other, and

-So, just throw an old republic skin over Galaxies then?
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October 11, 2008 4:41:50 PM    View the profile of Japheth 
Except Galaxies sucked. It was alright before they changed everything, but even then, it was pretty much an unfinished game when they released it (and I started playing it on day 3). The evidence for this is that the first 3 or 4 patches all added in basic functionality.

If they can update the graphics (which are now quite dated), create an engine that sufficiently diverges from being a WoW clone (I'd prefer a level-less one myself. Galaxies was originally level-less and that's what I liked about it), and properly capture the overall feel of Star Wars, they'll have done a good job.
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October 12, 2008 4:16:17 AM    View the profile of Ibram Tyrol 
Bioware's a good company, so they won't make the same mistakes SOE did. The fact that EA is the publisher brings with it mixed feelings. They've been trying to bring out better quality games as of late, but that doesn't forgive their history of just churning out corporate trash. But they did can Tiberium because it was apparantly shit, so maybe they've seen the light (side).

I think the Industry is finally starting to break away from the 'WOW' formula anyway. AoC did some things different, like Combat etc... and now WAR is doing it's own things that are different.

The fact that Star Wars is set in space will also help, as it opens up a ton of new possibilities for them. It probably won't be as unnesscarily complex as EVE, but I hope they can bring in some of EVE's ship-based PVP battles - after all that era in star wars was as much about fleet engagements as it was land combat.

A good setting would actually be the Mandalorian Wars, just before the first two games. The amount of conflict in that time period was huge, and whilst their was no Sith per say until Revan fell, I'm sure there's room enough in the Canon to add the faction, then it can be a three way.
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October 22, 2008 12:09:58 AM    View the profile of BARman 
I checked today, it is confirmed, here is the link, http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2008/10/21/lucasarts-bioware-confirm-mmo-star-wars-the-old-republic/ enjoy


The Game is called The Old Republic
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October 22, 2008 7:43:22 AM    View the profile of Dante 
Surprised,are you? /end yoda

Seriously, I think they'll screw it up. Lucasarts has a talent for that kind of thing... I'll just sit in a bomb shelter and cling to my original KOTOR.
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October 22, 2008 3:47:01 PM    View the profile of Liquid 
Confirmed again HERE

Seems like this is a reality.

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October 22, 2008 3:48:24 PM    View the profile of Dante 
It hasn't come out yet, and my canon sense is already telling me to run away..Sith Emperor, cold war in space, etc...

Shudder...
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October 22, 2008 3:49:19 PM    View the profile of Ibram Tyrol 
http://www.swtor.com

So not KOTOR after all.

This MMO takes place 300 years after the KOTOR games.

Discuss
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October 22, 2008 8:38:15 PM    View the profile of Japheth 
A pretty good dev video that just has a bunch of devs talking. Good so far, outlines their vision.

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/starwarstheoldrepublic/video.html?sid=6199708&tag=gs.email
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Hmm. If only I had the mony to pay for it
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October 24, 2008 11:31:31 AM    View the profile of Blue-Leader 
/me tackles Dec and brings him into a corner

KEKEKEKEKE!

Anyway, this game looks like it is going to be cool, they finally put it back into BioWare's hands.
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The lightsabers are as big as the characters' heads.
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October 24, 2008 12:55:22 AM    View the profile of Japheth 
They are sort of absurdly large. I'm hoping that they fix the graphics for that at some point. That seems to be a common comment for the screenshots, hopefully they'll take the hint.
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October 24, 2008 2:53:16 PM    View the profile of RK 
Huh, I red about this on Gameinformer.com, here's the article: http://www.gameinformer.com/NR/exeres/46ECD1F0-0BFC-4854-BBE5-7D8603F0478F.htm

So yea, that's three sites that confrim it.

I just hope they decide to let you choose your own proffesion, I'd hate to have to play a jedi or Sith for the whole game.
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October 24, 2008 4:34:51 PM    View the profile of Japheth 
They haven't really said anything about it yet as far as game mechanics go. I'm personally hoping for a level-less system of some kind, as Galaxies originally had, with a smoother type of mechanic behind it (instead of just having dozens of different kinds of experience; it makes sense, but its clunky). I really don't like levels as a mechanic in general and think that getting away from them can do a lot of good. That said, KOTOR I and II were essentially based on the d20 system (boo) so levels may be inevitable.
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October 24, 2008 5:20:07 PM    View the profile of Cosmic 
I'd prefer a level-less system as well. More feats! :P
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October 24, 2008 5:33:59 PM    View the profile of Sniping101 
Aye, kind of enjoyed that system when Galaxies had it.
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  RE: A New Star Wars MMORPG
October 24, 2008 7:23:41 PM    View the profile of Japheth 
Feats are not the goal of a levelless system.

Most levelless systems I've seen (in tabletop games, anyway) involve gaining experience which is then spent to increase other statistics. They rarely or never have feat-like abilities that are either on or off. They often involve being able to buy new abilities which you can then increase like other statistics.
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  RE: A New Star Wars MMORPG
October 24, 2008 7:31:28 PM    View the profile of Cosmic 
That is, of course, what I mean. :P
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  RE: A New Star Wars MMORPG
October 24, 2008 8:49:20 PM    View the profile of Gunnay 
Keep in mind that they are in the pre-Alpha stage of the game.  The fact that the graphics look like that at this point is freaking AWESOME!
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  RE: A New Star Wars MMORPG
October 25, 2008 1:43:16 AM    View the profile of Decembrist 
I actually wouldn't mind the graphics being cartoony... just no lightsaber hilts that could crush stone.
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