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Star Wars: The Old Republic
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October 10, 2008
12:01:35 AM
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So, apparently LucasArts and Bioware have invited some press out to some shindig on October 21 (a week from Tuesday) to announce "the game that's been rumored about for years". Many are thinking its a KOTOR-based MMORPG. That, in my opinion, would be awesome (or rather, could be awesome). Here's the article: http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3170438Discuss. [Edit: Changed thread title to reflect the name of the game now that we know it.]
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RE: A New Star Wars MMORPG
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October 10, 2008
12:29:01 AM
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I would very much like to see this as a possibility. A KOTOR MMO would be excellent. However, I'm having second thoughts about it solely being in KOTOR. I say span it out over time periods, or at least start it off with Bane; after Revan and the Sith Triumvirate, not much seems to happen.
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RE: A New Star Wars MMORPG
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October 10, 2008
2:40:38 PM
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Awesome. Awesome to the extreme.
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RE: A New Star Wars MMORPG
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October 10, 2008
4:55:12 PM
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I'd love to see a good Star Wars MMO... just not KotOR.
KotOR is about story. MMOs are about making money. The two don't mix. KotOR as an MMO would be disastrous.
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RE: A New Star Wars MMORPG
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October 10, 2008
5:19:42 PM
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SW33+!I can't wait to see what ships thay'll have for players 
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RE: A New Star Wars MMORPG
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October 10, 2008
6:05:07 PM
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My thought is that an Old Republic era game is WIDE open as far as Star Wars canon goes. You can pretty easily create your two factions with the Republic on one side and the Sith on the other, and possibly have more factions such as the Hutts.
When they say its a 'KOTOR' game, I hope it is -not- KOTOR. I want a game set in the SW universe, LONG before the movies, that still feels essentially like Star Wars.
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RE: A New Star Wars MMORPG
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October 10, 2008
6:57:07 PM
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Creating a Sith (or a Krath if they have that particular sect already established). Dark Side all the way. 
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RE: A New Star Wars MMORPG
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October 11, 2008
4:49:02 AM
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Second job that doesnt pay. Its either A: going to be a WoW clone, B: Fail and be scraped before or C: Fail like so many before it, And to top it off, Kotor is somewhat of a dead franchise... no amount of grinding and leveling will ever make it as good as the first or in some cases the second game Japheth wrote:Quote the message from Japheth My thought is that an Old Republic era game is WIDE open as far as Star Wars canon goes. You can pretty easily create your two factions with the Republic on one side and the Sith on the other, and
-So, just throw an old republic skin over Galaxies then?
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RE: A New Star Wars MMORPG
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October 11, 2008
4:41:50 PM
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Except Galaxies sucked. It was alright before they changed everything, but even then, it was pretty much an unfinished game when they released it (and I started playing it on day 3). The evidence for this is that the first 3 or 4 patches all added in basic functionality.
If they can update the graphics (which are now quite dated), create an engine that sufficiently diverges from being a WoW clone (I'd prefer a level-less one myself. Galaxies was originally level-less and that's what I liked about it), and properly capture the overall feel of Star Wars, they'll have done a good job.
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RE: A New Star Wars MMORPG
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October 12, 2008
4:16:17 AM
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Bioware's a good company, so they won't make the same mistakes SOE did. The fact that EA is the publisher brings with it mixed feelings. They've been trying to bring out better quality games as of late, but that doesn't forgive their history of just churning out corporate trash. But they did can Tiberium because it was apparantly shit, so maybe they've seen the light (side).
I think the Industry is finally starting to break away from the 'WOW' formula anyway. AoC did some things different, like Combat etc... and now WAR is doing it's own things that are different.
The fact that Star Wars is set in space will also help, as it opens up a ton of new possibilities for them. It probably won't be as unnesscarily complex as EVE, but I hope they can bring in some of EVE's ship-based PVP battles - after all that era in star wars was as much about fleet engagements as it was land combat.
A good setting would actually be the Mandalorian Wars, just before the first two games. The amount of conflict in that time period was huge, and whilst their was no Sith per say until Revan fell, I'm sure there's room enough in the Canon to add the faction, then it can be a three way.
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RE: A New Star Wars MMORPG
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October 22, 2008
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RE: A New Star Wars MMORPG
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October 22, 2008
7:43:22 AM
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Surprised,are you? /end yoda
Seriously, I think they'll screw it up. Lucasarts has a talent for that kind of thing... I'll just sit in a bomb shelter and cling to my original KOTOR. 
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RE: A New Star Wars MMORPG
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October 22, 2008
3:47:01 PM
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Confirmed again HERE
Seems like this is a reality.
Awesome.
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RE: A New Star Wars MMORPG
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October 22, 2008
3:48:24 PM
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It hasn't come out yet, and my canon sense is already telling me to run away..Sith Emperor, cold war in space, etc...
Shudder...
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RE: A New Star Wars MMORPG
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October 22, 2008
3:49:19 PM
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http://www.swtor.com
So not KOTOR after all.
This MMO takes place 300 years after the KOTOR games.
Discuss 
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RE: A New Star Wars MMORPG
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October 22, 2008
8:38:15 PM
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A pretty good dev video that just has a bunch of devs talking. Good so far, outlines their vision. http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/starwarstheoldrepublic/video.html?sid=6199708&tag=gs.email
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RE: A New Star Wars MMORPG
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October 22, 2008
10:05:48 PM
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Hmm. If only I had the mony to pay for it 
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RE: A New Star Wars MMORPG
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October 23, 2008
8:01:13 PM
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I suspect it won't be out for ages, so start saving 
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RE: A New Star Wars MMORPG
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October 24, 2008
11:29:37 AM
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RE: A New Star Wars MMORPG
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October 24, 2008
11:31:31 AM
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/me tackles Dec and brings him into a corner
KEKEKEKEKE!
Anyway, this game looks like it is going to be cool, they finally put it back into BioWare's hands.
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RE: A New Star Wars MMORPG
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October 24, 2008
12:07:11 AM
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The lightsabers are as big as the characters' heads.
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RE: A New Star Wars MMORPG
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October 24, 2008
12:55:22 AM
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They are sort of absurdly large. I'm hoping that they fix the graphics for that at some point. That seems to be a common comment for the screenshots, hopefully they'll take the hint.
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RE: A New Star Wars MMORPG
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October 24, 2008
2:53:16 PM
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Huh, I red about this on Gameinformer.com, here's the article: http://www.gameinformer.com/NR/exeres/46ECD1F0-0BFC-4854-BBE5-7D8603F0478F.htmSo yea, that's three sites that confrim it. I just hope they decide to let you choose your own proffesion, I'd hate to have to play a jedi or Sith for the whole game.
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RE: A New Star Wars MMORPG
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October 24, 2008
4:34:51 PM
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They haven't really said anything about it yet as far as game mechanics go. I'm personally hoping for a level-less system of some kind, as Galaxies originally had, with a smoother type of mechanic behind it (instead of just having dozens of different kinds of experience; it makes sense, but its clunky). I really don't like levels as a mechanic in general and think that getting away from them can do a lot of good. That said, KOTOR I and II were essentially based on the d20 system (boo) so levels may be inevitable.
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RE: A New Star Wars MMORPG
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October 24, 2008
5:20:07 PM
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I'd prefer a level-less system as well. More feats! :P
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RE: A New Star Wars MMORPG
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October 24, 2008
5:33:59 PM
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Aye, kind of enjoyed that system when Galaxies had it.
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RE: A New Star Wars MMORPG
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October 24, 2008
7:23:41 PM
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Feats are not the goal of a levelless system.
Most levelless systems I've seen (in tabletop games, anyway) involve gaining experience which is then spent to increase other statistics. They rarely or never have feat-like abilities that are either on or off. They often involve being able to buy new abilities which you can then increase like other statistics.
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October 24, 2008
7:31:28 PM
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That is, of course, what I mean. :P
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RE: A New Star Wars MMORPG
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October 24, 2008
8:49:20 PM
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Keep in mind that they are in the pre-Alpha stage of the game. The fact that the graphics look like that at this point is freaking AWESOME!
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RE: A New Star Wars MMORPG
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October 25, 2008
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I actually wouldn't mind the graphics being cartoony... just no lightsaber hilts that could crush stone.
PO2/FM Vasili "Decembrist" Rustam/RETIRED/STCR Doashim/Defensive Fleet/VEN/VE [SoA] [SoV] [CBV] (=*A*=) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jester Squad TRP/SGT Vasili "Decembrist" Rustam/3SQD/2PLT DA/SGT Dec/STC Academy/Hellgate ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dark Jedi Order / Initiate
Turk I may not be that perfect son, but y'all'll be rockin' when I'm done.
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