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March 8, 2010 11:23:34 AM    View the profile of Rogueboy 
To be posted underneath our avatar on the left hand side.

To minimize it being "tainted" by frivolous squadnet posts and whatnot the average is determined by posts created in the; Story Net, Stormtrooper Corps Story Board, and the Naval Story Board.
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March 8, 2010 2:28:57 PM    View the profile of Jegora 
The purpose of which is...what?
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March 8, 2010 2:42:57 PM    View the profile of Rogueboy 
You can differentiate who posts longer and who posts shorter. This can be a tool to take into consideration when forming a squad. May make those with writing difficulty stick out more so that others can help them. Generally good info to have, why Jeg are you shy?
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March 8, 2010 9:50:00 PM    View the profile of Ron 
I'd rather not be identified by a number. :P
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March 8, 2010 10:28:22 PM    View the profile of Jegora 
Post length is never, ever an accurate indicator of skill. I'll use myself as an example: I've been known to write some long posts, and I'm notorious for writing very few good ones.

This seems like extra work for no real benefit to me. That said, my opinion also matters very little.

And then there's just the noncomformist part of me buzzing about. Like Ron said, I'd rather not be identified by a number.
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March 9, 2010 8:56:34 AM    View the profile of Rogueboy 
Whoever said this has anything to do with skill? I know long posts do not necessarily have anything to do with skill, however people who post longer posts might rather be in the same squad versus a long post writer in a squad of short posts. Very simply because when we do our reports we report how many posts, if you make one post of 1000 words and your squad mates make 3x 300 word posts in the report it looks like you are outshined.

And no, I am not currently having this problem, if anything I'm the shorter word poster.
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March 9, 2010 2:34:09 PM    View the profile of Garryll Gates 
How about the learning curve?

Take me, for example; first year or so, 300 words a post. No exceptions, above or below.

Now, if I go out and write a post that's less than 900 words, I'm doing something wrong.

The first 200 or so posts of mine will totally tank the "average."
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March 9, 2010 4:20:58 PM    View the profile of Jegora 
Rogueboy wrote:This can be a tool to take into consideration when forming a squad. May make those with writing difficulty stick out more so that others can help them

That, to me, indicates that you want to use this to identify an individual's ability to write.
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March 10, 2010 7:30:46 AM    View the profile of Drac 
I think he's pointing out that it would help smooth in-squad relations, rather than anything about ability. For example, the Navy has had difficulty with this due to having half a squadron that posts 1k+ every time while the other half posts <500 every time. The ones making long posts were irritated about the lack of story development in the others' posts and the ones making the short posts complained about having to read the long ones to keep up with the story. I think Rogueboy is proposing this in order to avoid that type of friction.

That being said, however, I don't think it's necessary to add a line under our avvies for it. All it takes for that sort of organization to be accomplished is an attentive and willing command staff.

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March 10, 2010 10:18:29 AM    View the profile of Rogueboy 
Fine tank the idea, thats what I get for spur of the moment ideas, but what Drac said was what I had in mind. On a mental sidenote it becomes rather pointless since we tend to read each others posts.
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March 10, 2010 9:28:19 PM    View the profile of Bacredi 
Those 5000 word fluff-shitty posts of mine will help >.>
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March 10, 2010 10:03:11 PM    View the profile of Willtconq 
so instead of having it openly displayed in every post, put it into the personal pages instead? that way only those who's purposely looking for the numbers will see them, and not any and all wandering eyes. Or if members still feel uncomfortable, it could be made only viewable by moderators.

I thought of adding it to Wiki pages... but there's just no way to account for all previously written posts without extensive research.

There is, however, another issue. not all posts within those three ComNets are story posts. In the Navy, we also put story discussion topics in the story net. Which would mean that the numbers would be off, then it would just be pointless. Or there would have to be some sort of selective option, for the moderators, to choose which topics are counted toward the count. Idk how hard that would be to code, seeing how it would apply to every single topic such as the "sticky" option.

But as an officer, I can definitely see some advantages to having those numbers.
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March 22, 2010 1:45:14 AM    View the profile of StOrMz 
I don't think that the addition of 'average post length' is needed or useful. The quality of a post isn't judged on length, but on content. So i don't see this as something that should be done.

And as an officer, I don't see any advantages in having these numbers.
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May 11, 2010 7:30:14 PM    View the profile of Specter 
If a grunt may be so bold as to make an observation,

I've written for a large variety of rpg boards and I've always come out with the same conclusion as to length of posts. People who post under seven hundred words average for important missions are usually either bad or just novice writers. The people who post consistently at a thousand words are mostly average. Those who can make consistent posts at 1.5k are very experienced writers. And finally, those who post over 1.5k are either published authors, or just dang good writers. There are several people on a different site who consistently post at 2k and they smoke competition in "Who is the best writer." in my opinion.

Why? Those who are better writers have more to write about. People who are novice writers post at seven hundred words because they run out of ideas and their creativity is shot. Longer posts is a measure of skill, but it stops being useful at around 'average~good' poster, because good writers have the length, but are working on the internal mechanics, whereas excellent writers have both down.

Also, you have to take into account that your average novice writer is not capable of writing a thousand words plus in a single post.

Anyway, that's my thoughts on the matter of length as an indicator of skill.

On another note, the RB's idea sounds appealing, but Drac has (in my opinion) the right mindset.
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May 11, 2010 10:46:45 PM    View the profile of Luckystar 
Specter... This thread's been dead for over a month, please watch as to not make reviving old topics a habit.
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May 12, 2010 12:01:15 AM    View the profile of Aeos 
Two great writers always wrote to eachother letters, and one day one writer received a particulary long letter from his friend(the other writer) with a PC attached to it saying
"Sorry, I didn't have the time to write a shorter letter"

I disagree with you Spector.
It depends on what is written in the post, I've seen people write 1k posts on average and still say nothing in it to get my attention or to move the story.

And yes, dont raise dead topics

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May 12, 2010 12:04:14 AM    View the profile of Jegora 
That would be a Samuel Clemens quote, actually. Mark Twain, that is.

"If I had the time I would've written a shorter letter."
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May 12, 2010 12:12:01 AM    View the profile of Aeos 
Hmh, I was wondering who it was XD Thankies.
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May 12, 2010 7:20:28 AM    View the profile of Rogueboy 
*loops his arm around Aeos'*

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May 12, 2010 12:56:05 AM    View the profile of Jegora 
I'll ask for a soul.
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