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  RE: U.S. Presidential Candidate Opinions
August 12, 2007 11:42:38 PM    View the profile of Fury 
In response to Gunnay, you've been sold a bill of goods.

1. Maybe, just maybe, Bush isn't a warmonger. I doubt it though. Hell, he took his Iraq War plan (which, despite all lies to the contrary, is NOT the War on Terror) straight from the American Enterprise Institute, who actually ARE warmongers. Also, quoting FAUXNews to back a neo-con position is like quoting Kevorkian to refute that euthanaia probably might be unethical. 

2. The book is out on Bush's intelligence. He was a C student at Yale and couldn't even get into the University of Texas' law program. He had to go to Harvard Business School based on his familiy's prior connections, NOT his grades or achievements. How can you say he is the smartest president ever. A C student following a Rhodes Scholar? Seriously.

As for his administration choices, you can find many, many, many people who would argue that his choices and picks for leadership positions are flawed and dangerous. Rumsfeld was hated by liberals AND the military. Go figure. He picked a horse whisperer to be the head of FEMA and thousands died for it. His conservative EPA pick quit because even HIS policies were beyond her pro-business stance. And hell, she was once the governor of New Jersey, one of our most polluted states. The list goes on.

As for his energy policies, he helped Enron screw its customers and then its stockholders. The price of gas has more than doubled since he got into office. Consider that it took over twenty five years for gas to go from 25 cents a gallon to $1.40 and has gone over $3.00 this summer. Also, consider that he NEVER had a successful business venture in the oil industry, not to mention baseball.

I can be a great public speaker if I don't have an audience either. It is called talking, not speaking. Also, he is SUPPOSED to talk to large diverse crowds. He's not the president of narrow-minded Rapture bunnies who want to rape the environment and kill anyone brown skinned. He's the president of the United States. If he won't talk to all of us, he shouldn't have the frigging job.

He was a failure as a businessman and apparently also as a president. Believe what you want, but you seem to have drunk the whole damn kool-aid jug.

Now, leave this clown be as even his own party is running from him and keep this topic on its course. Just felt the need to interject.
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  RE: U.S. Presidential Candidate Opinions
August 12, 2007 11:51:02 PM    View the profile of Fury 
Also, Giuliani hates your freedom:
Quote:"Freedom is not a concept in which people can do anything they want, be anything they can be. Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do."

This is "America's Mayor" from back in 1994 (linky).

Somehow I doubt the Founding Father's envisioned 1984's "Freedom is Slavery" slogan to define what they meant in the Declaration of Independence.
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  RE: U.S. Presidential Candidate Opinions
August 19, 2007 1:51:33 PM    View the profile of Max Fagron 
Although I am not American,I have strong views on that front and I say that democrats are needed in the White House.Definetly.If a Republican gets handed the responsibility,hel just do the same as Georgie Peorgie.Obama or Clinton,whatever.Just not a Republican.
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August 19, 2007 3:02:43 PM    View the profile of Cosmic 
Ugh... Clinton... the name is making my ears bleed.
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  RE: U.S. Presidential Candidate Opinions
August 19, 2007 6:50:38 PM    View the profile of Fury 
Only because you've been conditioned to react that way. It's Republican Pavlovian Syndrome.
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August 27, 2007 6:03:45 AM    View the profile of Raziel 
I love you Fury.
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  RE: U.S. Presidential Candidate Opinions
May 18, 2008 2:11:34 AM    View the profile of Max Fagron 
Obama forever!!!!!!
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  RE: U.S. Presidential Candidate Opinions
May 18, 2008 1:05:03 PM    View the profile of Dante 
Fun fact: Bush screwed up the US and the international community.
Fun Fact #2: McCain is a Bush policy clone.
Anyone see how the McCain presidency is going to play out?
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  RE: U.S. Presidential Candidate Opinions
May 18, 2008 1:33:46 PM    View the profile of Jegora Fal 
Whoa...

Talk about topic revival
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  RE: U.S. Presidential Candidate Opinions
May 18, 2008 1:35:24 PM    View the profile of Dante 
I didn't do it.
(looks around nervously)

Besides, isn't this a crucial issue right now in the US?
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May 18, 2008 5:35:33 PM    View the profile of Ron-Goron 
Dante does have a point... election is this coming fall
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May 18, 2008 5:49:49 PM    View the profile of Jegora Fal 
Didn't say it was wrong, just pointing out the time gap. How do you people find these old topics anyways?
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May 18, 2008 9:05:19 PM    View the profile of Ken Alibek 
Barring some extremely dramatic events involving multiple assassinations or sex scandals involving Osama bin Laden, we're getting a loser for a President. All three are for big, crappy government, just the way Bush is. All I can do is hope for a better crop next time.
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May 19, 2008 6:45:36 AM    View the profile of Raziel 
Aww and I love how this thread ended!
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