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Japheth
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  RE: Exam Post
March 1, 2007 11:31:51 PM    View the profile of Japheth 
In almost all of the examples in the Star Wars universe that we have (mostly the X-Wing novels) pilots had a rank called "Flight Officer". It says "officer" but the important distinguishing point between an officer and an enlisted member is a comission. Have these pilots been granted a comission by their government?

Probably not, they're just pilots after all.

In Star Wars thats not such a big deal, people have been in space for tens of thousands of years. In our world is a much bigger deal because flying at all is so expensive, we feel that pilots which are comissioned and have had extensive training and earned an awful lot of trust are more worthy to fly the planes.

For the moment, and for the sake of our division, to be sure, we will be assuming that officer's comissions are only granted to those of 2nd Lieutenant rank and higher, those who are generally commanding fighter groups and their superiors in the chain of command. Normal enlisted members are Crewmen and the associated ranks. Most mechanics and other shipboard personel will usually fall into this range as well. Non-comissioned officers are the Petty Officers, they are trusted to take on more responsibility and in many cases will be assigned as aides to officers who are in command of a lot of enlisted members, being a sort of go-between the normal enlisted members and the officers. Higher ranked NCO may even be put entirely in charge of smallers units of enlisted members, and are then, in turned, managed by an officer.

Fighter squadrons in our divsiion follow this rough model, but with some variation. Not all petty officers are in charge of other members, but generally you must be of at least that rank to command a flight, for example. For non-pilots in a shipboard environment, assume they -do- follow the model above unless there are extraordinary circumstances in place.
 
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  RE: Exam Post
March 2, 2007 1:40:01 PM    View the profile of Arturus 
I thought officer's commission started at Ensign.
 
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  RE: Exam Post
March 2, 2007 3:39:21 PM    View the profile of Shazam 
*Nods* Ensign, as far as I have ever known, has been the minimum officer rank and thusly, the minimum rank you 'should' be to command a squadron.

As for being an officer to be important: I agree, you don't actually have to be one.  Hopefully, with the creation of these new skills and professions, we'll be able to make certain members more knowledgeable over others, make certain titles, or just create greater influence from experienced members.  Again, a little to think about, but hopefully it'll be clear in the very near future.  The key is not to move to quickly or too slow- we'll move at the right speed so that we don't make any mistakes: expect to hear about it soon.
 
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  RE: Exam Post
March 2, 2007 5:36:23 PM    View the profile of Japheth 
In the VE Ensign has been more of a probationary officer's rank. Its really sort of hazy. For example, before Riel and I took over the Navy, the rank was called "Officer Candidate". I have always viewed it in that way. In the past a member was promoted to the rank of Ensign (or OC) when they were eligable for/taking the FOCE. If they passed, they were promoted to 2Lt, and if they did not, they were bumped back down to CWO.
 
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  RE: Exam Post
March 2, 2007 6:32:51 PM    View the profile of Shazam 
Hrm- it's felt that way for me, but I've always seen it as, technically, officer.  Never the less- very good point.  And, just for me and some clarification: FOCE   Lol- that's Fighter Officer Candidacy Exam right?  Or Field, or Fleet, or something like that?  I actually haven't seen that.  I might just search it.
 
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  RE: Exam Post
March 3, 2007 5:10:20 PM    View the profile of Japheth 
Fleet Officer's Candidacy Exam, I believe. Again, I never actually took it and was awarded the =FCO=, an award made up more or less on the spot, which stands for Field Commissioned Officer. I never took the FOCE because I was, at the time, promoted from Ensign to Captain before I actually got the chance to take the exam.
 
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  RE: Exam Post
March 3, 2007 5:26:51 PM    View the profile of Shazam 
That just means you haven't been tainted by my system   Really, the information I provide in our articles isn't always 100 percent accurate.  Information on the capability of certain fighters, especially VEN ones, are varied as opposed to the original estimates and for any number of reasons.  If anything, you critique well.
 
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