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May 7, 2005 11:30:56 PM    View the profile of Darkhawk 
So... since it doesn't look like anyone has really done this yet, I'm going to start a thread to talk about Episode III.

PLEASE - try to keep this spoiler-free until after the movie comes out. Thanks.

First of all, I've read the novelization and it was the best of the three movie novelizations. Personally, I've enjoyed each book better than each movie, and I'll be interested to see if that trend continues. But even if the movie isn't as good as the book, it looks like it has a shot to be the best of the prequels... although that might not be saying much for some.

Secondly, I thought I'd brag a little and say that I'm getting to see the movie on May 12th at the Uptown Theatre in Washington, D.C. My girlfriend bought me a charity ticket to the event for my college graduation present so that I can see the movie. I wouldn't have been able to see it for a long time otherwise because I ship out for the Army on May 18th. So, I'm pretty psyched about that.

If anyone doesn't mind spoilers and wants to know how the movie was, look for me on IRC after the 12th.

Otherwise, I'll let this post sit here for a couple of weeks until the movie comes out unless some of you want to discuss the book in a relatively spoiler-free fashion.
 
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May 8, 2005 12:57:24 AM    View the profile of Cosmic 
Nice, DH. Aren't those tickets like $150-$250 a piece?

Anyway, I'm spoiler galore. I managed to find my Episode III script yesterday, so I pretty much know every scene/line.

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  RE: Revenge of the Sith
May 8, 2005 9:32:43 AM    View the profile of Jack Nebulax 
Same here. I'm full of spoilers. And I read somewhere that the tickets for those charity events are $500.00 a piece. Of course, it's for two good causes: charity, and to see Episode III before most other people!
 
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May 8, 2005 11:50:07 AM    View the profile of vint 
i was really into spoilers but then i realized that was no fun, then i realized i must know every detail before the movie comes out, then im now spoiler free.
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May 8, 2005 4:50:54 PM    View the profile of LoneWolf 
There is one spoiler i do wanna know so I'll ask it here: does darth Vader use his lightsaber at all in this movie or is it all just anakin swinging fun? i hope that question makes sense. A simple yes or no would do for me.
 
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May 8, 2005 6:46:05 PM    View the profile of DJ234 
I think he uses it in one scene.

where you shiping out to dark?
 
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May 8, 2005 7:00:52 PM    View the profile of Shakey 
The only thing I hate about the trailors is that one corny part where Obi-wan is all sweaty on that volcano and screams,'You were the Chosen One!'.Everytime I think about it I hear him say it in this high pitched squeeky girly voice.
 
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May 8, 2005 7:36:39 PM    View the profile of Cosmic 
Heh, well that particular scene is where...




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May 8, 2005 7:44:36 PM    View the profile of Shakey 
Yep.
 
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May 8, 2005 7:57:40 PM    View the profile of Sniping101 
heres one i want to know, i heard that in the movie Palpy tells DV the meaning of his name, now i know the real world translation to Dark Father, is it the same in the movie, or did they give it something new and dumb.
 
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May 8, 2005 8:15:40 PM    View the profile of Angel 
There's actually a lot of theories about that. One I always laugh about is that the second name is the root of certain rather violent, evil words like:

Darth MAULed
Darth inVADER
Darth inSidious
Darth BANE
Darth TYRANNUS (Tyranny)

And Cos, did you not read where DH said POST NO SPOILERS?!?!
 
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May 8, 2005 9:47:31 PM    View the profile of Cosmic 
My bad. I'll edit.
 
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May 8, 2005 11:03:47 PM    View the profile of Sniping101 
yeah, i'm just wondering so i could be offended if it wasnt Dark Father, being as thats what the name supposedly means in Latin, not speaking latin myself i must take others words for that one, but it makes sense. and it would seem odd that he had to of deliberately chosen words that ment 'dark father' and then given them a diffrent in Star Wars meaning would be. . .idiodic
 
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May 9, 2005 4:32:08 PM    View the profile of Angel 
Not Latin Snipes, anglo-saxon...there is no "v" sound in classic latin, its pronounced like a w.
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May 9, 2005 4:36:23 PM    View the profile of Darkhawk 
Yes, it's Germanic.

Lucas originally chose Darth Vader to mean Dark Father, because Vader is (duh) Luke's dad.

Will he try to explain Vader into meaning something else in Episode III? I doubt it. He'll probably just leave it COMPLETELY unexplained, like he does with so many other things (re: Force ghosts, Shmi's immaculate conception, Palpatine's age, etc.)
 
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May 9, 2005 4:51:58 PM    View the profile of Angel 
Well he did sort of explain the immaculate conception...Anakin was supposedly conceived purely by midichlorians (yes, i know that word is banned from here. )
 
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May 9, 2005 10:41:08 PM    View the profile of Darkhawk 
Yes, but WHY would he do something so stupid?

*sigh*

Stupid Lucas.
 
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May 10, 2005 11:21:02 AM    View the profile of Sniping101 
eh, its all latin to me



 
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May 11, 2005 7:07:05 PM    View the profile of LoneWolf 
So Lucas can make his own.... personal jesus
 
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May 11, 2005 9:59:50 PM    View the profile of Angel 
Question: Why would the Emperor choose "Dark Father" if he didn't know Padme was knocked up?
 
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May 11, 2005 10:37:51 PM    View the profile of Giovanni Bryden 
Cause he can see into the future, duh.
 
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May 11, 2005 10:42:21 PM    View the profile of Darkhawk 
it doesn't mean Dark Father in the SW universe! sheesh
 
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May 11, 2005 11:52:14 PM    View the profile of Sniping101 
or does it? thats what we're tryin to figure out, i would thing it would by the mear fact that it has meaning here so there must have been a reason behind Lucas selection of it, a reason that seems blatantly obvious, so why would he change the meanings for the sake of a fictional universe, i'm sure he changed the language, its not germanic, but i'm sure it means Dark Father in the SW universe. either that or it has no meaning beyond a name in the SW universe, but is a nice sort of 'easter egg' type deal for those of us on this side of the silver screen
 
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May 11, 2005 11:58:14 PM    View the profile of LoneWolf 
Heres food for thought. If anakin was concieved by the force, and was part of a prophecy to balance the force. Stick with me here. Anakin becomes a Sith Lord using the dark side of the force. Perhaps Palpy had a twisted view and thought the darkside of the force Fathered Anakin, hence Dark Father. Just an interesting way to look at it.
 
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May 12, 2005 10:27:02 AM    View the profile of Darius 
Since you guys can't seem to settle on where the term Darth Vader came from, translating it to English to Dark Father, I'll settle it for you.  It's Dutch.  Yes, that's right Dutch.  Trust me.  None of the weird language he uses in the movies is actually made by him.  Such as Greedo talking in Rodian.  It's a dead language from South America.  So is Huttese I believe also.  Quite interesting stuff actually.
 
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May 12, 2005 10:56:44 AM    View the profile of Darkhawk 
Oh no! Dutch is a dead language! Someone better inform all those poor people in the Netherlands...
 
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May 12, 2005 11:30:07 AM    View the profile of Fury 
Good lord.  And someone inform all those folks in Ecuador and Peru that their language is dead as well.  Last I heard, Quechua is alive and well and is taught in schools and used for everyday conversation.

That said, while Lucas didn't employ people to make Tolkienesque languages, there are "common" terms that have come into an agreeable consensus.

Consult the following for more info and history:

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May 12, 2005 3:04:23 PM    View the profile of Angel 
haha.
 
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May 13, 2005 3:23:57 PM    View the profile of Darkhawk 
I would like to announce the following things:

1. Episode III is amazing. It is so much better than I and II. I think you'll really, really enjoy it.

2. I sat three rows in front of Debbie Reynolds and Carrie Fisher.

3. My girlfriend is totally hot and amazing for getting me that ticket. Yeeha.

Okay, that's all. Enjoy the movie next week, everyone!
 
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May 13, 2005 3:46:15 PM    View the profile of DJ234 
No way dark you serious. yousat in front of them

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