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RE: Pay Day Today
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February 3, 2004
8:19:45 AM
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The pay checks have been sent out. Enjoy! ----------------------- Grand Moff Kadann, Dark Lord
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Arturus
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RE: Pay Day Today
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February 3, 2004
10:54:50 AM
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hurray! ----------------------- SL/ESN_Arturus/Kaph 1-1/Phoenix Wing/M-SSD_Atrus/VE/VEN/(=a=)(=sa=)(=jcpa=)(=scpa=)[MC:1][SV][BRC][LoC]
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Hashi Shiyun
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RE: Pay Day Today
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February 3, 2004
11:02:59 AM
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Thanks. Now I can pay off my debts. Stupid Superbowl. Stupid Carolina lost. Stupid Rema. Stupid nikorasu : ----------------------- TRP/SGT Hashi Shiyun/1SQD/2PLT/1COM/1BAT/1RGT/VEA/VE [IH] [SoA] [LoR]
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Arturus
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RE: Pay Day Today
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February 3, 2004
11:06:15 AM
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lol...is the money stupid too...its about the only part of that you forgot to mention :P ----------------------- SL/ESN_Arturus/Kaph 1-1/Phoenix Wing/M-SSD_Atrus/VE/VEN/(=a=)(=sa=)(=jcpa=)(=scpa=)[MC:1][SV][BRC][LoC]
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Rema
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RE: Pay Day Today
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February 3, 2004
11:36:12 AM
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hehe I always like an extra 10k. ----------------------- "Only Trust your Allies as much as you can Predict your Enemies."
"Do you expect me to talk?" "No Mr. Bond, i expect you to die."
"Luke, I am your Fasha."
To Nom Anor, a truly superior Yuuzhan Vong.
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Arturus
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RE: Pay Day Today
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February 3, 2004
11:37:50 AM
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who doesnt? :P ----------------------- SL/ESN_Arturus/Kaph 1-1/Phoenix Wing/M-SSD_Atrus/VE/VEN/(=a=)(=sa=)(=jcpa=)(=scpa=)[MC:1][SV][BRC][LoC]
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Hashi Shiyun
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RE: Pay Day Today
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February 3, 2004
11:41:53 AM
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10k? I put up only 6k for the pot.
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Rema
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RE: Pay Day Today
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February 3, 2004
11:42:47 AM
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I charged Interest.
STOP POST EVERY THREE SECONDS. Im hitting my refresh button too much. ----------------------- "Only Trust your Allies as much as you can Predict your Enemies."
"Do you expect me to talk?" "No Mr. Bond, i expect you to die."
"Luke, I am your Fasha."
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Arturus
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RE: Pay Day Today
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February 3, 2004
11:42:58 AM
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i think he was refering to the bonus 10k he recieves for being an arc trooper ----------------------- SL/ESN_Arturus/Kaph 1-1/Phoenix Wing/M-SSD_Atrus/VE/VEN/(=a=)(=sa=)(=jcpa=)(=scpa=)[MC:1][SV][BRC][LoC]
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Arturus
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RE: Pay Day Today
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February 3, 2004
11:43:15 AM
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which you are as well :P ----------------------- SL/ESN_Arturus/Kaph 1-1/Phoenix Wing/M-SSD_Atrus/VE/VEN/(=a=)(=sa=)(=jcpa=)(=scpa=)[MC:1][SV][BRC][LoC]
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Vukan
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RE: Pay Day Today
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February 3, 2004
12:29:38 AM
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I like money, even if it is funny money. LOL, it isnt even real funny money, it is virtual funny money :-p That makes it more enjoy ----------------------- FM/NTO:A/Crewman Kieran Hels/Kaph 2-3/Phoenix Wing/mSSD Atrus/Defensive Fleet/VEN
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Arturus
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RE: Pay Day Today
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February 3, 2004
12:30:50 AM
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damn capitalist you :P ----------------------- SL/ESN_Arturus/Kaph 1-1/Phoenix Wing/M-SSD_Atrus/VE/VEN/(=a=)(=sa=)(=jcpa=)(=scpa=)[MC:1][SV][BRC][LoC]
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Vukan
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RE: Pay Day Today
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February 3, 2004
12:33:54 AM
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Heh, Capitalism is one of the true realistic economic societies on the planet. Communism is unrealistic in practice, if you hadn't noticed by previous attempts. Someone will always do something to mess it up. ----------------------- FM/NTO:A/Crewman Kieran Hels/Kaph 2-3/Phoenix Wing/mSSD Atrus/Defensive Fleet/VEN
"And he smote them hip and thigh with a great slaughter: and he went down and dwelt in the top of the rock Etam." -Judges 15:8
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Arturus
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RE: Pay Day Today
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February 3, 2004
12:39:39 AM
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I never said communisum was a great idea...I personally am a socialist so I believe in a mixture of both systems...one that allows a business environment to exist but also will create excellent social programs for all, a cradle to grave state, and a low rich/poor gap.
That too is just one means of governance...I think either extreme has its problems and is ultimately ineffective and bad for society as a whole...moderation is usually always agood thing.
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Vukan
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RE: Pay Day Today
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February 3, 2004
12:50:13 AM
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It just doesn't seem like governments handle things well. Personally I think tax rates should be a tenth of what they are, and then private organiyations should take care of helping people with monetary difficulties and such in many different areas. ----------------------- FM/NTO:A/Crewman Kieran Hels/Kaph 2-3/Phoenix Wing/mSSD Atrus/Defensive Fleet/VEN
"And he smote them hip and thigh with a great slaughter: and he went down and dwelt in the top of the rock Etam." -Judges 15:8
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Arturus
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RE: Pay Day Today
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February 3, 2004
12:56:29 AM
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The problem is private organisations either dont cause they are greedy money hoarders or else the not for profit ones cant afford to meet the demand. Governments could handle things much better, I definitely agree with you there, but you can trust private enterprise to help society...it wont happen, the human nature is sadly greedy and uncaring in many ways.
Governments are vital for helping society and tax dollars are essential...i personally would like to see a massive hike in taxes for the very rich and no income tax for the poor. ----------------------- SL/ESN_Arturus/Kaph 1-1/Phoenix Wing/M-SSD_Atrus/VE/VEN/(=a=)(=sa=)(=jcpa=)(=scpa=)[MC:1][SV][BRC][LoC]
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Vukan
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RE: Pay Day Today
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February 3, 2004
1:01:18 PM
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I know, but private organizations run things well, not for profit organizations just wont happen even with donations they receive because most people want money. Thus the Capitalist system is good for most people. ----------------------- FM/NTO:A/Crewman Kieran Hels/Kaph 2-3/Phoenix Wing/mSSD Atrus/Defensive Fleet/VEN
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Arturus
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RE: Pay Day Today
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February 3, 2004
1:04:26 PM
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private organisations are considered with maximising profit...that is the goal of the firm. Therefore ppl come second. People should come before profit but that will never happen unless vital institutions are made public, taxes are raised, governemnts become less corrupt, and ppl decide its important to help each other. ----------------------- SL/ESN_Arturus/Kaph 1-1/Phoenix Wing/M-SSD_Atrus/VE/VEN/(=a=)(=sa=)(=jcpa=)(=scpa=)[MC:1][SV][BRC][LoC]
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Vukan
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RE: Pay Day Today
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February 3, 2004
1:10:26 PM
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Err, non-profit organizations are for a large part private ones as well... ----------------------- FM/NTO:A/Crewman Kieran Hels/Kaph 2-3/Phoenix Wing/mSSD Atrus/Defensive Fleet/VEN
"And he smote them hip and thigh with a great slaughter: and he went down and dwelt in the top of the rock Etam." -Judges 15:8
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Arturus
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RE: Pay Day Today
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February 3, 2004
1:12:34 PM
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yes but they cant provide the universal, sustainable, and effective programs as well or on as great a scale as the government. The government is your friend...its not some evil thing that saps your money. Taxes are your friend too becasue they provide services and infrastructure needed to ensure that society is stable, fair, prosperous, etc. ----------------------- SL/ESN_Arturus/Kaph 1-1/Phoenix Wing/M-SSD_Atrus/VE/VEN/(=a=)(=sa=)(=jcpa=)(=scpa=)[MC:1][SV][BRC][LoC]
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Vukan
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RE: Pay Day Today
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February 3, 2004
1:15:01 PM
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If there was just one organization that handled it all, it could work, it would just require time and effort...which some people dont want to give. ----------------------- FM/NTO:A/Crewman Kieran Hels/Kaph 2-3/Phoenix Wing/mSSD Atrus/Defensive Fleet/VEN
"And he smote them hip and thigh with a great slaughter: and he went down and dwelt in the top of the rock Etam." -Judges 15:8
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Arturus
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RE: Pay Day Today
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February 3, 2004
1:54:48 PM
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if you are going to have one organisation do it...why not the government then. ----------------------- SL/ESN_Arturus/Kaph 1-1/Phoenix Wing/M-SSD_Atrus/VE/VEN/(=a=)(=sa=)(=jcpa=)(=scpa=)[MC:1][SV][BRC][LoC]
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Rema
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RE: Pay Day Today
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February 3, 2004
1:55:43 PM
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This was a thing telling us about paychecks and now we are discussing world governing strategies?
/me throws his hands in the air
We are a interesting bunch of people. :P ----------------------- "Only Trust your Allies as much as you can Predict your Enemies."
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"Luke, I am your Fasha."
To Nom Anor, a truly superior Yuuzhan Vong.
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Arturus
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RE: Pay Day Today
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February 3, 2004
1:56:59 PM
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yes we are interresting ppl...and its good we are having discussions and taking part in negociating what the government should do. I was worried this generation wasnt going to give a damn about it. ----------------------- SL/ESN_Arturus/Kaph 1-1/Phoenix Wing/M-SSD_Atrus/VE/VEN/(=a=)(=sa=)(=jcpa=)(=scpa=)[MC:1][SV][BRC][LoC]
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Darkhawk
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RE: Pay Day Today
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February 3, 2004
4:59:23 PM
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Capitalism is only good if you're rich. The rich get richer, and the poor get poorer. Point in case: the middle class is slowly disappearing in the United States.
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Fury
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RE: Pay Day Today
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February 3, 2004
5:16:38 PM
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/me points and laughs at those who assume corporations will do anything for the public good if it doesn't involve a tax break or avoidance of a lawsuit.
The basic reason we have governments at all is to protect us from other humans; be they another race, religion, nationality...or in more recent times, protection from corporate abuse.
To assume that Microsoft or Dupont is looking out for my best interests is at least as stupid as thinking the KKK wants to empower African-Americans.
Put your George Bush handbook down long enough to realize that life sucks when you aren't a rich, white, Republican living in America. ----------------------- PRF/GEN Fury/VEA/TADATH/VE [SCP][PoC][SotE:HC][SotE:VEA][IOC]
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Arturus
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RE: Pay Day Today
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February 3, 2004
6:04:56 PM
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as always...very well put Fury!!! ----------------------- SL/ESN_Arturus/Kaph 1-1/Phoenix Wing/M-SSD_Atrus/VE/VEN/(=a=)(=sa=)(=jcpa=)(=scpa=)[MC:1][SV][BRC][LoC]
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Vukan
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RE: Pay Day Today
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February 4, 2004
9:32:18 AM
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Yeah, my dad's dad was a white republican, but not rich. My dad worked his ass off to get where he is today, coming out of a military family. My dad's brothers are white republicans, they arent rich though. Dont make assumptions about people, it never gets you where you want to be. Oh, I also forgot about those hundreds or thousands of music, sports, and movie stars that are liberal and of many races. There are plenty of rich people in America that aren't white. I find that what Fury said is an excuse for people not to work hard. Is it really hard to do well in school, get to a good college and get a good job? I dont think so, just requires some effort that people dont want to give. Hell, on most job applications I dont think people ask for your political affiliation and say, hey, you are a black liberal, no way we are hiring you.
And I like how so many rich liberals attack republicans, if they want better services for the American people, it isnt too hard to donate money to a charity. ----------------------- FM/NTO:A/Crewman Kieran Hels/Kaph 2-3/Phoenix Wing/mSSD Atrus/Defensive Fleet/VEN
"And he smote them hip and thigh with a great slaughter: and he went down and dwelt in the top of the rock Etam." -Judges 15:8
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Vukan
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RE: Pay Day Today
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February 4, 2004
9:38:55 AM
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Err, to clarify a little more on the above post ii response to Fury's...
Dont give me that bull about being white, I have met very few people who will discriminate against black or hispanic people. In fact, I know damn well that people are discriminated against. My dad worked with Smith Barney before they merged with Solomon, and I have had the chance to look at the comparisons of percentage of people hired. I see most of them are in the top 15% of their class, now after I cancel out the people not in the top 15%, I see an equal percentage of whites being hired compared to blacks hispanics, etc combined. And I put etc because there is no way I can write down all the different races they have working for them.
So dont give me that BS corporate line, because I actually know what goes on in some of those organizations. And for those who dont know, Solomon Smith Barney is a company largely involved in stocks, bonds, and banking in general. They are worth a few 100 billion dollars (US) ----------------------- FM/NTO:A/Crewman Kieran Hels/Kaph 2-3/Phoenix Wing/mSSD Atrus/Defensive Fleet/VEN
"And he smote them hip and thigh with a great slaughter: and he went down and dwelt in the top of the rock Etam." -Judges 15:8
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Afyon
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RE: Pay Day Today
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February 4, 2004
11:00:29 AM
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You know in regards to your first post, it is hard for some to do well inschool, get into college, and get a degree and a goob job.
1. there is not equal opportunity...those from low income families struggle more and are much less likely to succeed. This problem could be corrected with high government involvement.
2.college is too expensive so that only rich can get higher education
3. without good marks and college you cant a good job whichwill make these children in low income families in the low income catergory again...its a vicious circle. thats an overview of the cycle...someday ill give you the one hour speech i have of it :P
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