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Fleet Icons/Logos
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November 3, 2013
4:13:10 PM
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Okay. Brief comment. Serpent had briefly mentioned that he thought it might be good for the individual Fleets to get logos, much like individual squadron logos... I've been working on a few and this is my first attempt. I'll post up more and would appreciate feedback from anyone... Also, everyone, if you have any ideas or want to attempt anything, feel free to. Now for my first attempt: Pretty simple. It's a shield with Abrae projected on it, with an ISD guarding Abrae. I chose Abrae due to the fact that we're based there. Now that I'm thinking about it, this may be more suitable for the first Fleet, as it's the defensive Fleet.
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RE: Fleet Icons/Logos
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November 3, 2013
4:47:31 PM
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It's a good first draft! I think you're right that it might be better as the 1st Fleet's logo, given the Abrae image. I think also maybe we could experiment with a little higher resolution, for the image? I like that folks are thinking about this.
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RE: Fleet Icons/Logos
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November 3, 2013
5:49:57 PM
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Woah! Very impressive! Nice one Fishhead! I would agree with it being a good one for the First Fleet, but you are definitely on track if you use the same theme for the Second Fleet. One suggestion I would make would be for some sort of boarder on the shield. Maybe something gold?
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November 3, 2013
6:16:50 PM
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I'll definitely work on getting a better resolution, Trick. It is quite pixelated around the border... I have limited resources with photo editing software, but I'll see what I can do there.
And I can look into some sort of border as well, Serpent.
And the coloration as it stands overall? I don't necessarily have a good eye for color schemes, so input on text color and the color of the Imperial logo at the bottom would be great.
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RE: Fleet Icons/Logos
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November 8, 2013
1:18:09 PM
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Okay. Worked on some revisions. This a better resolution for ya, Trick? And Serpent, I do like the border... I may play with it a bit more in the coming days. Two questions now. 1) The text. I'm not too sure I like it where it's currently located, but now sure where to move it to. 2) With the ISD, does it look better placed as it was in the first or second draft?
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RE: Fleet Icons/Logos
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November 8, 2013
3:15:21 PM
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Looking good! Both ships positions look good- I think different fleets could use ship positioning as a nice logo differentiator.
For 2nd Fleet- last I knew we were still headquartered at Belgaroth, so it might be cool to use a brown/mustard yellow planet in the background for the 2nd.
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RE: Fleet Icons/Logos
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November 8, 2013
5:06:56 PM
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Good idea Drac! And yes, we are still based at Belgaroth.
I loved the first one Fishhead, but I like this even more! I for one am quite happy about where the words are and the angle of the Star Destroyer. Aside from the planet colour, maybe reduce the boarder a little in width? But unless anyone else has any input I'd say you are about done! Thank you so much!
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November 9, 2013
1:17:11 AM
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Wonder how the logo would look with Aurebesh characters instead of English text?
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RE: Fleet Icons/Logos
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November 9, 2013
10:08:44 PM
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Okay guys. I love the feedback. I'm currently working on a few different models currently, integrating every idea presented... I'll have variations for both the First and Second Fleets soon. I do presume these are the only Fleets I'll be making icons/logos for?
They should be up in the next few days. Then I think they should be put up for voting. If only we had the ability to put up polls on this forum...
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RE: Fleet Icons/Logos
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November 9, 2013
10:17:24 PM
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Sounds good, man. I'm not sure as to how many fleets we'll need. 1st and 2nd definitely, but the others don't really see any use aside from the VENI fleet (7th if I remember right?).
One more suggestion: perhaps make the color of the shield's border symbolic? For example, blue or gold for 1st Fleet to symbolize defense or the home fleet respectively and then red for 2nd Fleet to symbolize its offensive role and gray for the VENI fleet because...well...VENI.
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November 9, 2013
10:35:02 PM
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Yep, Drac. I had just been considering that and have made individual borders for each Fleet. Nice to see similar thoughts.
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November 9, 2013
10:56:17 PM
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If you have the time/inclination, go ahead and bang one out for Third Fleet, too. Black colored border, maybe, for the "raider" fleet? Great work so far!
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November 9, 2013
11:43:02 PM
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Most definitely, Trick. Should be simple enough.
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November 9, 2013
11:43:58 PM
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Interdictor Star Destroyer, for Third Fleet... it's what we do. And thanks!
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RE: Fleet Icons/Logos
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November 10, 2013
1:28:03 AM
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Okay. Here's Round 1. For the First Fleet. Little bit of background here. I went with a gold border and text, as more of a "royal," defensive feel. Flagship of the First Fleet is obvious the Atrus, so ship depicted is a SSD. So, without further ado, here's the first set of images: The first two images utilize basic English text. [*]The first image has an angled SSD. [*]The second image has more of an outward SSD. The last two images are the same uses of the SSD images. These differ in the text. I decided to try Norse's suggestion, and quite like it. [*]Angled SSD [*]Outward SSD. This is my personal favorite. I quite like it. So, perhaps if everyone can take a look at these and weigh in, we can decide on a logo for the First Fleet? -Fishhead
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RE: Fleet Icons/Logos
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November 10, 2013
3:00:36 AM
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My vote would go to the third actually. The larger text looks better (regular text should also be expanded though to provide a fair comparison) but odds are I'll like the aurebesh variant more even after that were to happen. I personally like seeing the SSD angled as, to me at least, it provides the impression of acting as a shield for Abrae.
If I were to make one suggestion, regardless of which variant we ended up going with, then that would be to lower the ship a bit - currently there's some free space in the lower half that doesn't actually contain anything so basically center the ship over the shield layout and in so doing bring it closer to the Imperial badge as well as show more of the planet behind it.
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RE: Fleet Icons/Logos
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November 10, 2013
1:59:29 PM
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Like both the 3rd and 4th, but instead of as like deepsix said moving the SSD down to cover the dead spot below, would it be possible to put in a few interceptors or one of the escort class ships? after all the fleet is not run with SSD's alone.
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November 10, 2013
2:21:48 PM
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I'm basically in agreement with Deep, and I also think maybe we can find a space background that doesn't tile so obviously? It's a little... cheap-looking? I don't know what term to use, but when the pattern repeats every few pixels like that it looks... like 90s internet, to me. Lol. In concept, though, these are looking great.
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November 10, 2013
2:53:37 PM
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Okay. I'll focus with the third image for now. I can definitely lower that SSD down and work on the background. When I first put that in, the image was still about 1500 pixels across, so can definitely work on fixing that now.
But Deep did give me an idea. I do like his thought process with the angled ship giving a more defensive feel, so I believe with the Second and possibly Third Fleets, I'll work with a more outward design, as they are our more offensive fleets.
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November 10, 2013
7:31:17 PM
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Okay. How about this, guys?
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November 11, 2013
3:32:43 AM
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Oh yes! So many levels of 'thats it!'. No further comments!
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November 11, 2013
6:58:33 PM
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Thanks very much, Serpent. I quite like it myself.
Trick, as for the Third Fleet... You said an Interdictor and black border? Any specific text you're wanting in Aurebesh or such?
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November 11, 2013
7:10:40 PM
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Meh. Keep it simple: "Vast Imperial Third Fleet" should work fine. And yeah, an Interdictor-class Star Destroyer. http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Interdictor-class_Star_Destroyer
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November 11, 2013
10:52:03 PM
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Gotcha. And a somewhat rough Second Fleet logo. I'll touch it up as soon as I get a general consensus on layout.
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November 11, 2013
11:53:11 PM
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Been staying off this topic because I know most people don't care to hear the blunt designer comments but I have to at least say this.
These would be much better vectored rather than Photoshopped, aka illustrated. I think the fact that the ships were filmed a while time ago gives off a vintage look that, instead of looking forward moving, looks like we're stuck in the past. Also the tiled background used earlier was very 90's website. Probably a good thing that's changed. Also, red text on a pink background is not very readable. Granted the average person can't really read Aurebesh anyway but if it's going to be in the design, it has to be able to be seen. Also the logo covering the tip of the ship just seems odd. It just doesn't feel cohesive with it covering part of the central image.
Also I should mention, I might be busy (cause I know people don't ask me to do these things because I'm "so busy") but when it comes to design, I will always set aside time. I have Photoshop and Illustrator CS6. I am happy to use it. Just let me know if there's something you want to do but you don't have the means to do it. I may only be a student, but I love getting in the practice.
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RE: Fleet Icons/Logos
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November 12, 2013
12:03:07 AM
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If you want to take over, Avalar, go right ahead. I'm really not qualified to be doing this at all anyway. Just thought I could attempt it. Besides, I've got nothing more than Gimp, and I'm still learning it.
You're definitely more qualified than me for this kind of thing. I've never had any experience and my major couldn't be any further away from this kind of thing with organic chemistry.
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November 12, 2013
12:34:26 AM
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Organic chemistry is totally graphic design
And sorry for being a bit ranty. 90's website-esque stuff makes me twitch because of my professors. XD Give me a couple days to get some basic outlines of the ships in Illustrator saved, and I can make vector versions of these. If nothing else, if you continue with the photo edit ones, I can make vector versions of them.
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November 12, 2013
1:43:35 AM
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If you've got the time, just go ahead and completely redesign them. Like I said before, I was just attempting it. That is by no means saying that we have to keep them. I'm sure you can pump something better out.
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