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Deathmatch: prequels or original trilogy?
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June 27, 2011
7:37:57 PM
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Okay, fellow fans, I know some people have some deeply-held beliefs about which of the SW films they prefer. I share the following link and my accompanying opinions only for the luls, and I don't want to yuck anyone's yum, here. For the record, I am a proud fan of the Original Trilogy, and an outspoken critic of the prequel movies. So, when I discovered the following video review of The Phantom Menace, it struck me as not only hilarious, but also brilliant. Decide for yourselves, but please, keep the discourse civil, out of respect for your fellow VE members who may be wrong have an opinion which differs from your own. http://youtu.be/FxKtZmQgxrIHe does one for all the films, and they're LONG. 
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RE: Deathmatch: prequels or original trilogy?
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June 27, 2011
8:18:08 PM
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Isn't he great? I have a fond memory of first listening to his review of Phantom of the Menace. It kinda just snuck up on me and WHOOP there goes an hour and 15 minutes. Practically pooped my pants laughing.
And as for the Deathmatch: obvs original trilogy. Mark Hamill > Hayden Christiansen.
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RE: Deathmatch: prequels or original trilogy?
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June 27, 2011
8:23:34 PM
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So much could have been done, or done better with the Prequels. It was a missed oppurtunity to have made Star Wars even more epic than it is.
Obviously, Original Trilogy.
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RE: Deathmatch: prequels or original trilogy?
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June 27, 2011
8:36:45 PM
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original...hands down.
i believe that Lucas is attempting to right his wrong w/the Clone Wars series, which far outstrips the prequels on every level.
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RE: Deathmatch: prequels or original trilogy?
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June 27, 2011
8:43:15 PM
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Umm, this is a trick question, yeah?
Original trilogy hands down.
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RE: Deathmatch: prequels or original trilogy?
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June 27, 2011
9:42:16 PM
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Oh, Atrasin...Two words: "Politics episodes." Or "Mandalorian stories".
You were saying?
OT it is, something Red Letter Media just cemented for me.
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RE: Deathmatch: prequels or original trilogy?
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June 27, 2011
9:49:53 PM
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I personally despise the animated series, based on the fact that it utterly ignores the Extended Universe (which filled the Clone Wars era nicely), and the fact that it isn't really consistent with the films or ANYTHING.
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RE: Deathmatch: prequels or original trilogy?
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June 27, 2011
11:43:05 PM
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I loved the original animated Clone Wars. You know, the incredibly short, yet still awesome ones. I think they aired about five years ago. Yeah, those rocked.
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RE: Deathmatch: prequels or original trilogy?
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June 28, 2011
12:20:57 AM
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Whilst I do love watching the Palpatine and Yoda duel in Epi 3, as well as watching Dooku's epic fighting style, I'd have to choose the Original trilogy over the prequels.
EDIT: Watched Part 1 & 2 of the Phantom Menace review. Epic.
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RE: Deathmatch: prequels or original trilogy?
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June 28, 2011
2:54:56 AM
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The 2d animated ones were fantastic, the new cgi ones are pretty fecking terrible for the most part with the odd exception. EP2 is by far the worst film. Taken on its own as a stand alone film, it's just a complete mess. Not only is it a bad star wars film, I'd just happily never watch it again in my life. Here's a good one for you: Indiana Jones IV versus Prequel trilogy? Shia LaBeouf vs hayden christensen, it's a toughy! (If the question was which would I tire of punching in the face first)
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RE: Deathmatch: prequels or original trilogy?
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June 28, 2011
2:25:15 PM
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The Clone Wars movie and series had some redeeming factors and incredible episodes, but, really, those seem to be despite Lucas's interference instead of because of it.
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RE: Deathmatch: prequels or original trilogy?
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June 28, 2011
2:35:27 PM
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I'm not going to advocate one series or the other but pit the movies against each other on an individual level. In which case, I think the clear winner is Revenge of the Sith. The epic fight scenes, the heart wrenching tale of two best friends torn apart, Anakin's fall to the dark side, the masterful soundtrack. I say it wins hands down.
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RE: Deathmatch: prequels or original trilogy?
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June 28, 2011
2:54:19 PM
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It's definitely the best of the prequels, but against ANH or ESB? I don't think so.
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RE: Deathmatch: prequels or original trilogy?
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June 28, 2011
7:35:25 PM
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Thengil wrote:... The epic fight scenes, the heart wrenching tale of two best friends torn apart, Anakin's fall to the dark side, the masterful soundtrack. I say it wins hands down.
Two outta three isn't bad. It is my favourite of the prequels, too. Music in a Star Wars movie is always going to be good if John Williams is at the helm. The Phantom Menace gave us one of the best soundtrack songs of all time. The lightsaber fighting was mostly awesome (the beginning of the fight with Palpatine was shockingly bad), and the whole scene of Order 66 being carried out was, I think, really powerfully done.. That being said, I think Anakin's fall was ridiculously portrayed. Maybe that's just the awful acting, but the script surrounding his fall, which was the point of the prequels, was fairly weak. He went from conscience boy to child murderer in about fifteen minutes. And let's not even get started on the scenes between him and Padme. My favourite series is definitely the original trilogy overall. Especially because it gave us the fewest, "Why, George?" moments (largely, the Ewoks).
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RE: Deathmatch: prequels or original trilogy?
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June 29, 2011
1:15:10 AM
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With respect, Thengil, I heartily disagree with you. 
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RE: Deathmatch: prequels or original trilogy?
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June 29, 2011
2:55:57 AM
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I can never find the "this high ground adds +10 to my defense level" sketch when I need to
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RE: Deathmatch: prequels or original trilogy?
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June 29, 2011
8:43:55 AM
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Heh.
Anyone here read Darths and Droids? It's better than the source material! 
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RE: Deathmatch: prequels or original trilogy?
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June 29, 2011
9:24:43 AM
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Guys. The prequels were a giant BORING FEST. I don't want to watch Anakin and Obi-Wan duel for 45 minutes. And throughout the prequels, what makes them such good friends? All they do is complain to each other. There is NOTHING redeeming about them in my mind. The characters are flat, the movies are poorly edited in terms of cinematic quality, and the story makes no sense. Red Letter Media can explain these things much more professionally (and comedic) than I. Please, please, PLEASE watch them. They will change you.
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RE: Deathmatch: prequels or original trilogy?
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June 29, 2011
11:32:46 AM
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Raziel wrote:I can never find the "this high ground adds +10 to my defense level" sketch when I need to
I hope this is what you're looking for. http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=150
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RE: Deathmatch: prequels or original trilogy?
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June 29, 2011
2:27:42 PM
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Quote:Guys. The prequels were a giant BORING FEST. I don't want to watch Anakin and Obi-Wan duel for 45 minutes. And throughout the prequels, what makes them such good friends? All they do is complain to each other. There is NOTHING redeeming about them in my mind. The characters are flat, the movies are poorly edited in terms of cinematic quality, and the story makes no sense.
(This is just me pointing out some issues of reasoning in the above, not a personal attack. I can be a bit blunt, so I apologize ahead of time) If you don't want to watch anakin and obi-wan duel for forty-five minutes why in the world would you want to watch the original series. The only lightsaber fight in the first movie is between Obi-Wan and Darth Vader and let's not go over how horribly painful that was to watch. In fact, the only bearable duel in the entire original series is the one between Han and the Tauntaun. The rest is just Darth Vader taunting Luke over and over again. Let's move on to your point about Anakin and Obi-wan being friends. Instead of pointing out the obvious fact that their bickering is present in many friendships I'll just ask why Luke is so attached to Obi-Wan. I mean, he hardly ever sees the guy, teams up with him for two days, and then is distraught when Ben dies. More so than he was over his Uncle and Aunt. Luke's character is perpetually whiny, and the acting is about the same as Hayden's ability. The story is so overdone it's sad, boy's family dies, boy goes off becomes hero, boy wins. It's the same cliche that I'm sure most of us recognize when creating characters. It doesn't have any of the uniqueness present with Anakin and his relationship with his mother, whose emotional attachment to eventually leads him to the dark side. I honestly don't understand what people mean by "oh it's poor acting." is it really as bad as Luke? Really? Maybe the second one is pretty bad in some parts, the padme stuff, but the Third one redeems all that in my mind. A New Hope has a really flat and underdeveloped storyline. It's over before it begins. Luke's escaping the Death Star with Han and then all of a sudden he's a hot shot pilot for the Rebels. The transitioning made no sense. Sure, it's a good movie, but it's not a storytelling wonder. Anyway, I can understand why some people don't like the prequels, I just don't think it deserves all the hate it gets. I think the only reason why is because it doesn't live up to the childhood experience many got when first watching the original series. RoJ is obviously the best one in my eyes, but people proclaim ANH as pure genius. Why? It was the first in the series. Because of that childhood experience no future series is going to meet expectations. Just like I would be horrified if they made a sequel to Sandlot.... oh wait. The animated clone wars cartoons were epic. The new ones are horrible, they take Anakin's character and further defame it. I'm not going to get into a drawn out debate, since those are usually useless, but I just want to speak out in defense of the prequels, which I think get too much hate.
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RE: Deathmatch: prequels or original trilogy?
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August 7, 2011
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I had kinda wanted to keep my boots clean of this argument, but, seeing as I'm bored and have some spare time on my hands, so why not? First, coming strait out of the gate with this, Original Trilogy all the way.Don't get me wrong the prequels are pretty sweet, assuming you exclude episode 1, but you just can't beat the classics. Episode 3 was an epic visual display, and it's story and acting was admittedly better. But that is not the point. The original trilogy is still the better movie in my eyes simply because it is. I was raised on this stuff and quite simply I love it. Yes, the graphics are corny, though for their time were cutting edge, and in story it could be better developed, but it IS Star Wars. The originals were the first sci-fi movies to really create a long-lasting fan-base on a large scale. They were one of the first movies to effectively use animated 3D wire-frame graphics. (I might also add that they produced my first hero, Han, and crush, Leia) Over all, the prequels are great movies, I just think the originals are better quality. Top 6 List 1.ESB 2./3. (Tie) RoS RoJ 4.ANH 5.AoC 6.??? 7.PM As far as the Clone Wars goes, the original series was awesome, (heh heh, Durge) but the new series and movie only deserves a "meh". It's not as bad as some people make it out, although some bits directly contradict previous Star Wars lore and are terribly written with 2d characters, but some pieces are actually interesting, I happened to give a double take when I saw Republic Commandos on screen, but overall it's just bland, not what one would expect from Star Wars.
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