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A Matter of Empire
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July 16, 2010
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In preparation for Chapter 9, I'll be posting some historical entries to the wiki.
I will also use the "A Matter of Empire" theme to do some Storynet entries to flesh out some of the topics I want to emphasize.
Granted, my writing was never the best at it's peak and I'm quite rusty since so I hope to inform and possibly entertain as well.
I have some rough drafts I will get polished together and get this process moving.
In short, I hope to move our timeline forward and provide you enough background to get a sense of the state of the galaxy as we head into the next chapter.
Any thoughts on what you'd like to see discussed? I know I'm going to merely gloss over major events, but I can write in some blurbs on subjects you might think are of interest. OO/FM Fury (ret)/HC/LOTAITH/VE [MoHx4][SCPx3][PoC][SotE:HC][SotE:VEA][SCP][MSMx2][IOC]
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RE: A Matter of Empire
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July 16, 2010
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If you need/want/have the desire for any Beta reading, give me a holler. Major Angel - Retired  ---------------------------------------- Darth Phoenix - Dark Lord of the Sith
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RE: A Matter of Empire
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July 17, 2010
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How about a brief summary/link to what happened in Chapter 8 for those who weren't around back then and/or are too lazy to go look it up themselves? |
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RE: A Matter of Empire
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July 17, 2010
4:57:23 PM
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Are we going to be following this scale you had outline on the wiki?
Calendar Correlation
Earth Year Star Wars Year
1998-2000 1-5 ABY
2001-2002 6 ABY
2003-2005 7 ABY
2006-2007 8 ABY
2008-2009 9 ABY
2010 10-12 ABY
And more importantly, will a similar progression be expected in the years to follow? ie, every two years of real world time equates to about a year in universe? "Put a blaster in a citizen's hands, and you have an expendable troop. Put a purpose in his heart, and you win a soldier." |
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RE: A Matter of Empire
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July 17, 2010
8:56:25 PM
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(1) A new bad guy. We've gone 10 years now (earth years going by Doc's chart) and we're still fighting Thrawn. I think. I really don't know, but the point is I feel like we should have a definitive, devastatingly evil bad guy that ISN'T canon so that we can have some more flexibility with our stories.
(2) Interaction, if possible, with mainstream characters (from the movies, preferably). I've heard of past VE chapters where some canon characters were involved, though I'm not sure how heavily. It would be nice to be reminded that we're in the same galaxy and fight on the same planets as the hundred or so canon characters that made Star Wars famous in the first place.
(3) Pirates. Please, oh please say there will be Osk pirates.
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RE: A Matter of Empire
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July 17, 2010
9:38:26 PM
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hey, let's be kooky and start acting IMPERIAL.
conquer
subjegate
grind the masses under our shiney black bootheel.
Rebs are warm and fuzzy, we are not. CO|ADM Geordi "Driver" Atrasin/HFS Geordi I/[=A=][=^SA^=][=^ME^=][=*MA*=][=FOCE=][MC1]{BWC}[NSR:1]{SAS}{SWC}(SOL)
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RE: A Matter of Empire
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July 18, 2010
1:40:03 AM
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Ron wrote:(1) A new bad guy. We've gone 10 years now (earth years going by Doc's chart) and we're still fighting Thrawn. I think. I really don't know, but the point is I feel like we should have a definitive, devastatingly evil bad guy that ISN'T canon so that we can have some more flexibility with our stories.
I'll volunteer to help write the part of one or more bad guys if we introduce new villains. What can I say, I've suddenly found myself with a lot more spare time on my hands recently.  But yeah, let's get some more baddies in here. New Republic, Ssi-Ruuk, Battle Droids, Ewoks, Gungans, SOMEBODY! |
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RE: A Matter of Empire
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July 18, 2010
3:46:24 AM
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Quote:(2) Interaction, if possible, with mainstream characters (from the movies, preferably). I've heard of past VE chapters where some canon characters were involved, though I'm not sure how heavily. It would be nice to be reminded that we're in the same galaxy and fight on the same planets as the hundred or so canon characters that made Star Wars famous in the first place.
Please god, not this. The moment you start bringing in Canon characters, is the moment things take a turn for the worst. |
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RE: A Matter of Empire
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July 18, 2010
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RE: A Matter of Empire
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July 18, 2010
7:23:55 AM
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Yes, a new bad guy (or good guy, depending on how you view the VE) would be fabulous. A battle on multiple fronts would also be interesting, difficult to coordinate perhaps but it would definitely fit plotwise in terms of a coreward struggle.
Regarding Osk: Yes please. We'd like a piece of pie. Sweet sweet pie.
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RE: A Matter of Empire
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July 18, 2010
10:10:18 AM
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If you need someone from VE Today to cover some lead up to Chapter 9, I'd be happy to help. TRP/LCP Skarr/2SQD/1PLT/1COM/1BAT/1RGT/VEA/VE/ "No flag or uniform has ever stopped a laser blast." -Skarr's mentor "Abandon all hope ye who enter here" The Inferno, Canto III, Line 9  Norith Skarr- Heavy Weapons Specialist
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RE: A Matter of Empire
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July 18, 2010
11:33:55 AM
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- OOC:
- To avoid misunderstanding: Everything here is unofficial and based on my experiences in the VE, from posting to story composition, and even discussions I've had with various members who've had a hand in where the canon goes.
Ron wrote:(1) A new bad guy. We've gone 10 years now (earth years going by Doc's chart) and we're still fighting Thrawn.
We didn't fight Thrawn that entire time, but a good bit of it aye  Atrasin wrote:hey, let's be kooky and start acting IMPERIAL.
conquer
subjegate
grind the masses under our shiney black bootheel.
Rebs are warm and fuzzy, we are not.
I think the VE recognises that some sort of PR is necessary other than fear, as learnt through the fall of the actal Empire. We "liberate" rather than "conquer" as was shown in chapter 8.5... But that's my take on the VE from my experiences here, not anything official. Ron wrote:(2) Interaction, if possible, with mainstream characters (from the movies, preferably). I've heard of past VE chapters where some canon characters were involved, though I'm not sure how heavily. It would be nice to be reminded that we're in the same galaxy and fight on the same planets as the hundred or so canon characters that made Star Wars famous in the first place.
There's been a policy that they might make cameos or be behind the scenes... such as the case of Thrawn. At absolutely no time have we met Thrawn directly tho that may change if we feel he needs to die. I've heard talk in the past that we might let him live tho, continue well into 10 ABY and beyond. But that was I think a discussion from 2 years ago, and may no longer be relevant. |
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RE: A Matter of Empire
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July 18, 2010
2:20:36 PM
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A couple things.
Yes, the canon is gone. Thrawn gets to live in our universe, so does Isard for that matter. I'll try to keep a running wiki page of the things that are not canon to help avoid some confusion.
The New Republic we'll be up against aren't so warm and fuzzy either. And they'll be factionalized too.
Part of the multi-front problem is getting people aware of where we are operating. There's a new atlas out and hopefully LucasArts will stick to it so we can map accordingly.
I have heard calls for involving major canon characters and to alternately avoid touching canon. We're not really going to go down either road. First, we've been in an area of space that was rarely touched by canon. That will probably change but hard to place people where they weren't. Plus, having Baron Fel as a wingman flying against Rogue Squadron is for fanfic. Let's try to rise above that. Secondly, we'll try to mix it up with new adversaries, but our end goal is Coruscant. Hard to NOT mess with canon with that in mind.
As for my wiki grid, I'm not tied to that just yet but that's pretty close. I reserve the right to alter that as needs arise. OO/FM Fury (ret)/HC/LOTAITH/VE [MoHx4][SCPx3][PoC][SotE:HC][SotE:VEA][SCP][MSMx2][IOC]
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RE: A Matter of Empire
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July 18, 2010
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The Atlas is ever changing. The Star Wars website always has constant updates for it. TRP/LCP Skarr/2SQD/1PLT/1COM/1BAT/1RGT/VEA/VE/ "No flag or uniform has ever stopped a laser blast." -Skarr's mentor "Abandon all hope ye who enter here" The Inferno, Canto III, Line 9 Norith Skarr- Heavy Weapons Specialist
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RE: A Matter of Empire
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July 18, 2010
2:25:28 PM
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A couple of other points:
1. Osk does get a chance to mayhem and pillage in this next venture.
2. Yes, it's easy to conquer *a* planet. It's really hard to capture others when you're constantly horsewhipping the first populace. You don't have to get people to love you, just to accept they'll still get fed and allowed spankwire if they cut the crap and get in line.
3. I had a three. I swear I did. And maybe a four. Oh well. OO/FM Fury (ret)/HC/LOTAITH/VE [MoHx4][SCPx3][PoC][SotE:HC][SotE:VEA][SCP][MSMx2][IOC]
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RE: A Matter of Empire
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July 18, 2010
2:35:13 PM
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well if you guys want I can pull a proverbial bad guy out of my ying yang and make him something akin to the Zahn Consortium, and the reason we want his arse is because he's receiving financial support from the NR to disrupt our operations. Heavy Weapons Specialist
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RE: A Matter of Empire
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July 18, 2010
2:36:50 PM
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So, it's like a New Republic Osk Company? TRP/LCP Skarr/2SQD/1PLT/1COM/1BAT/1RGT/VEA/VE/ "No flag or uniform has ever stopped a laser blast." -Skarr's mentor "Abandon all hope ye who enter here" The Inferno, Canto III, Line 9 Norith Skarr- Heavy Weapons Specialist
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RE: A Matter of Empire
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July 18, 2010
2:46:31 PM
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Osk lives!!!
Drinks all around! 
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RE: A Matter of Empire
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July 18, 2010
3:27:01 PM
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would be something similar but not only up in space (dont know the specifics of Osk) but there will be some more direct military actions. Heavy Weapons Specialist
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RE: A Matter of Empire
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July 18, 2010
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A link to this wiki grid may actually help some (like me) who are a bit behind the times. Major Angel - Retired ---------------------------------------- Darth Phoenix - Dark Lord of the Sith
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RE: A Matter of Empire
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July 18, 2010
10:01:57 PM
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Angel wrote:A link to this wiki grid may actually help some (like me) who are a bit behind the times.
http://www.vastempire.com/wiki/index.php?title=Vast_Empire_Timeline_(WIP)Rather hidden away, I only found it once when Fury put it up through the recent edits, stuck in my head since then. And, on a related note, I compiled this. Fury of course has the word on what's used from that if anything, but I figure I slide it in.
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RE: A Matter of Empire
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July 25, 2010
3:50:56 PM
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The top thing on my list isn't so much what's happening in the wider galaxy, but what's happening within our own borders.
What I would like to see is a concrete, set in stone map of the Vast Empire's current holdings, both fictional and canon planets.
On the maps I've seen, there's huge blanks spaces around where the main four are, and so from my understanding there's been attempts to 'fill' those gaps by making up the odd planet here and there.
I even created a 'sector' if you will along our 'eastern' border (according to a map I generated once), just to have some grounding and consistency for stories - are you going to keep that in? Or are you going to sweep it under the rug and pretend all of the hard work we've been putting in without guidence was for naught? "Didn't anyone ever tell you? There's one thing you never put in a trap if you're smart, if you value your continued existence. If you have any plans on seeing tommorow there's one thng you never EVER put in a trap... Me."
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RE: A Matter of Empire
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July 26, 2010
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Bitter much?
Yes, I'd like to integrate your map in, but there has to be some level of importance thrown in. If we put in every tiny asteroid we've done a mission on, we're going to be flooded in data no one can use.
The new map has grid sectors, which I plan on using. We can do a big map, then drill down by trade line, sectors, grid squares, whatever. The smaller you go, the more detail. Hopefully that will cover everything you've got as well as the new worlds, etc.
As for the wider view, yes, it's important. The concept of a chapter is to move our faction in relation to what is going on in the wider world. That is what I am focusing on. The stories will, I hope, cover the events going on since our current timeline to provide some backstory. They are just snapshots, but hopefully useful ones. And hell, they *might* even be entertaining if I'm lucky.
Got a couple soon to be up in a day or so. I apologize for how they read but I *am* really rusty.
The map work? We'll I'll try to get to that as best I can. OO/FM Fury (ret)/HC/LOTAITH/VE [MoHx4][SCPx3][PoC][SotE:HC][SotE:VEA][SCP][MSMx2][IOC]
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RE: A Matter of Empire
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July 26, 2010
8:33:52 PM
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Don't snipe at the man, he's putting in an awful lot of work to clarify aspects of the VE that have so far been incredibly vague. It's a big job and will take a fair amount of time.
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RE: A Matter of Empire
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July 26, 2010
9:15:44 PM
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Got the first couple of stories up, plus updated the Plague Wars entry on the wiki. I'll try to get something on the refugee situation there soon too.
Let me know what you think.
Thanks. OO/FM Fury (ret)/HC/LOTAITH/VE [MoHx4][SCPx3][PoC][SotE:HC][SotE:VEA][SCP][MSMx2][IOC]
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RE: A Matter of Empire
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July 28, 2010
4:36:25 AM
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Looks good so far. In fact the Plague Wars stuff somewhat reminds me a story arc we had a good while ago, with the Alderaan "Survivors" Remnant or something, where they modified bacta to do pretty much the opposite effect of instead of repairing cells it would decay them faster. Any chance of that being tied in? I think it could work. And, got this set up to help folks keep everything in a central repository: http://www.vastempire.com/wiki/index.php?title=Category:A_Matter_of_EmpireHopefully that will make things a bit easier  "Put a blaster in a citizen's hands, and you have an expendable troop. Put a purpose in his heart, and you win a soldier." |
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RE: A Matter of Empire
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July 28, 2010
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Hmm, that did sound a bit bitter didn't it? Oh well, I'm sure you'll live :P
I think it's great what you're doing though, really, and I thank for laying out your plans. That actually sounds really good. "Didn't anyone ever tell you? There's one thing you never put in a trap if you're smart, if you value your continued existence. If you have any plans on seeing tommorow there's one thng you never EVER put in a trap... Me."
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RE: A Matter of Empire
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August 1, 2010
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I know someone asked for Chapter 8 notes, I don't think we have any at the moment, but we do have abit earlier than that. Give me a week or two maybe, and we can have Chap 8 summarized, possibly Chapter 8.5 as well. Curious fact, FES was involved in Chapter 7, namely Part B. Be nice to expand beyond our club once in a while, eh?
Chapter 7 Summaries:"Put a blaster in a citizen's hands, and you have an expendable troop. Put a purpose in his heart, and you win a soldier."
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RE: A Matter of Empire
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August 8, 2010
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I apologize for the lack of, well, any production from me this past couple of weeks.
Clan Furia is packing up and moving to Minnesota in the next month or so. I'm a tad busy planning where to put my stuff and land a new gig.
So forgive me for some reduced output but I will try to knock some more background materials out as I can. OO/FM Fury (ret)/HC/LOTAITH/VE [MoHx4][SCPx3][PoC][SotE:HC][SotE:VEA][SCP][MSMx2][IOC]
Operations Officer - High Council
Baron Administrator - Imperial Center
Retired Trooper and Proud of it
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