Saturday night in #tiamut?

/me eyes Will and Sazam suspiciously...

whatever Will names it, then.

/me soothes Will's ruffled feathers

point of order: The Taskmaster, is a CR90 Corvette

and the Tiamut is still the Tiamut till Will gets off his dead lazy and decides on a new name.

Will has a contest going to rename the Tiamut:

http://comnet.imperialnetwork.com/topic/13051/

have a go...

Wow, Art. I can't believe you sifted through to find that. Interesting, though, that Darkhawk has seen this happen before.

-Drac

After that, 2002 and 2003 were marked as some of the most glorious years for the VEN... so watch out guys :P


On another note... I can't decide on a name for my ship >.< too many good suggestions, and bad ones.


On a third note... i'm rather disappointed that no one wanted to take up any more discussions on other ideas :S


On a forth note... to get back on topic...
I was talking to Shaz couple days ago, and he pointed out just how scary some of the latest posts on Viper's story are... 3 consecutive 2k+ word posts. they might've had a hand in scaring away some recruits. I mean... even the great Shazam who whips 2k word posts about nothing out of his ass got scared...

And we said a word limit on story posts might be necessary afterall, with all the reasons listed in previous posts. And i also remmeber Driver saying he will never support the break down of all the work he put in to get his men to write big long character development posts.

So, i came up with a compromise. The combined wc of the latest 3 posts cannot exceed 5000 words. Exceptions can be given to those that significantly moves the plot. This way, we're not limiting anyone to a certain amount, they're still free to write as much as they need to. if one person needs to make a 3k word post, the next two can still make decent 1k posts each and not exceed the limit. if two people need to make 2k posts, the third is still allowed a 1k post. At the same time, we're limiting the overall size of the walls of text so that it's not really really scary. Most times people are going to make 1k-1.5k posts anyway, so it shouldn't be a problem at all.

Lol I don't tell my people how to write unless they're under performing :P

You guys should read what I wrote on page 4 of this topic.

I was personally think that it's all about how you invest yourself in your writing. The latest posts by Viper have all had a good amount of investment regardless of if they've been below 500 or in excess of the 2k mark. They've all added to the story and they all reflect the person/character who writes them.

As I said in my previous post we might benefit from redrawing up the squadrons to reflect word count, writing investment so that people are best suited to the environment they are writing in because I agree we do not want to scare away people with mammoth posts. However, surely 2k posts shouldn't be viewed as bad things and in my view are the norm for developing plot and characters accordingly. Equally so 500 posts are great for blasting off a bit of pacing or quick character development.

We can all agree it's what you do with the words that count.

Most obvious, maybe, but not the most important. (Word count that is.)

I made a suggestion on the commander's ComNet that I think could apply here, actually.  It's my stance that a squadron is allowed to implement basically whatever it wants when it comes to stories; if they want a minimum word count or maximum, that's fine, but there should never be an across the board setting.  If we do that, we limit a squadron's ability to experiment, in at least the one area, anyway.  However, by experimenting, using longer posts, more detailed plots, they take a risk: they could cause serious inactivity or prevent new members from getting involved.  The WC is supposed to observe this and offer advice to correct the problem.  If that advice is ignored or the problem persists: it's my position that a squadron ought to disband.  The criteria for this isn't exact of course, but even a couple months of serious stagnation (if it's seen as a result of the command's inability to get things moving) ought to be considered "dead" and be taken apart.  Perhaps some re-organizing is in order?  Either way, it would add some urgency to a squadron; a squadron can't go stagnant for months and then re-energize all the time: that's not how it's supposed to work, lol.  Your squadron does that- it should be disbanded.  There's no point in throwing good money after bad; we shouldn't be sending recruits to a squadron that is just throwing them away.

On the opposite end of the spectrum, squadrons that work hard and get themselves in a good position will survive and create a legacy.  But there is something to be said about how a squadron lives and dies: we have to respect that internal fervor and excitement that surrounds a new squadron.  It's brand new!  Everyone wants to make it strong and make a bit of history: they wanna have fun doin it.  If that fervor disappears or gets lost along the way and people stop looking for ways to improve their squadrons: guys, that squadron's dying, lol.  It needs to be put to rest, if you will.  Anywho- I think writing is up to the squadrons, but if they wanna experiment, they also accept the risks associate with that tinkering.

'dead' squadrons are retired...permanantly.

their history would be closed and lauded. the new squadrons would build new legends.

As long as the squadron can, as you say say Shaz, connect to new recruits regardless of word count etc then the squadrons should be allowed and encouraged to set the tone, max/mins etc.

The only reason I suggest the squadron restructuring is if we feel the current squadrons to not cater to the needs of the navy.

Okay... a couple new ideas. I get a good amount of ideas from playing video games... fancy that.



1. Story Line idea: Betrayal.
It's something I've never seen happen in any stories. I could be mistaken. Got this idea after playing the new CoD6. Basically it would involve an NPC officer betraying a unit on a mission.


2. Wing Discussion. This is an idea i told Den weeks ago. but kinda forgot about it. But i'll bring it back now. The idea is to have a Wing Topic very much like the Squadron Topics. Or heck, a Navy Topic. Let's face it. our squadron topics are pretty much lounge topics for the squadron. And if we could do the same for the majority or everyone in the navy, everyone could be more actively involved in becoming a community.

Right now, we hardly have anyone coming and going beyond the squad topic for open discussion. No one from Viper goes into Nazgul topic, except Ibram at most once a week. and Hunter and I are perhaps the only ones that goes into Viper Topic. That's it. That is all the intra-squadron communication we get.

Now, if we had a Wing Topic or Navy Topic, everyone could come in and join in on whatever is being discussed w/o feeling they don't belong there, and not being limited to a specific topic. As I said earlier, this idea could potentially generate a lot more activity between members overall. I'm also expecting an increase in activity from everyone, and hope some not as active members will become more active.

The idea came back to me when I went offline earlier today, nothing interesting going on. I come back, 6 hours later, there's a whole new page of posts to read in Nazgul Topic, as well as a new member. My first thought was, "What the hell happened while i was gone?!" Since I came back to active duty, Nazgul has gone through about 20 new pages of posts. While on the other end of the spectrum, Viper has gone through 3. Which is, truth be told, and no offense, a bit disappointing. I understand most members in Viper may lead busy lives and may not have the interest to engage in pointless discussions back and forth like the members in Nazgul. However, those that may wish to contribute to that end may not have the chance to, because they may not have anyone to talk to, as evident so far.

With a new topic that encloses a wider group of members, if not all, everyone who wishes to engage in active, pointless bantering are welcome to do so.

The events of Shades of Grey were set off by a betrayal. Granted, that storyline was brought in last minute to deal with someone who had been kicked out, but my point is that new ideas are being tried, so don't worry.

I think a Wing topic will be a good idea, and It's good to see that Atrasin has already implemented. Something you may not have been aware of Will was that inter-squadron communication was dampened down a bit after people started spamming each other's topics.

I seem to remember someone from on high stepping in and asking us to cool down a little bit, so we did and i guess no one paid it much thought since.


This new Wing topic should be interesting though. As for the rest, well, for once I'll take this to a PM :P