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Denethor
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  RE: ID Lines... Possibilities!
November 3, 2008 12:20:21 AM    View the profile of Denethor 
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  RE: ID Lines... Possibilities!
November 3, 2008 1:04:28 PM    View the profile of Slasher 
Ok, just had an idea, instead of using these in ID lines, what if we were to use them for the ranks that appear right underneath our avatars when we are posting, it wouldn't require that it is redone every time, and if it would make people feel better we could include the 3 letter abbreviation that stands for the ranks. Just an idea, I think it would look cool, and would be more easily implemented than if we were to use them in ID lines, also drop the time in service completely, this just refers to the literal ranks.
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  RE: ID Lines... Possibilities!
November 3, 2008 1:16:00 PM    View the profile of Angel 
If it ain't broke don't fix it?

Personally I think a series of characters would look a bit sloppy under the avatars. Plus, this would require some additional work for Kad implementing the additional rank indication. Perhaps if it were images of the ranks rather than colored characters it would be more feasible.

Personally I enjoy the rank indication as it is.
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November 3, 2008 1:27:37 PM    View the profile of Helena 
I agree. It's neater the way it is. Also easy for people to read and you won't have to learn a whole new and confusing rank thingy...
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  RE: ID Lines... Possibilities!
November 3, 2008 1:50:32 PM    View the profile of Slasher 
Fine
/me tosses yet another idea into the rejected file
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  RE: ID Lines... Possibilities!
November 3, 2008 2:00:57 PM    View the profile of Cosmic 
Images (not symbols) may look okay on top of the avatar, but it would clutter things up in the long run - especially for those that are in three divisions: we'd have to have three different graphics for ranks up there?

And don't be discouraged about your proposal not being popular, Slasher. Wanting a fairly large-scale change won't come as easily as some people may think. I've sent in numerous proposals (both mini-ideas and large-scale changes) - some have been accepted, but most have been rejected.

I'd say a good 95% of proposals require the use of Kad needing to implement code somewhere, and he's already booked up as it is with other current VE behind-the-scenes projects.

Ideas and suggestions are good though, so we're always encouraging others to submit them.
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  RE: ID Lines... Possibilities!
November 3, 2008 2:09:39 PM    View the profile of Slasher 
ok, a couple things, first it wouldn't be any change to the avatar, but rather it would replace what is below it,
E.G.
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Would become

[VE-ARMY] +++++|+++++
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[VE-VEEC] Chairman

I haven't done anything other than the Army that would apply to you right now, but that gives you an idea.

Also, while I get the rejection part, I don't receive much in the way of encouragement. I don't think people like my work, and I'm thinking of just dropping it and hoping my chances of promotion aren't ruined by what has already happened.

But thanks for the post, just everyone seems to not like my work.
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  RE: ID Lines... Possibilities!
November 3, 2008 2:30:58 PM    View the profile of Dante 
For what it's worth, I'll restate my approval...
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  RE: ID Lines... Possibilities!
November 3, 2008 2:40:09 PM    View the profile of Luckystar 
Slash...stop putting yourself down! With that attitude you won't be getting very far. Keep your hopes up and try to be positive about things. You'll feel better after a little while and you'll see that things will look better for you in your perspective of things.

It's not that people don't like or appreciate your work, it's just that your ideas would be somewhat complicated to implement and use. and I know at least one person who appreciates your work.

If your ideas were made a little simpler maybe they would be accepted by people more, or try doing some for the wikis for a change (just a suggestion), but as Cos said, keep the ideas flowing.

I know I probably sounded a little harsh, but just try looking at this in a different way is all I'm trying to say.
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  RE: ID Lines... Possibilities!
November 3, 2008 2:46:54 PM    View the profile of Slasher 
You are right, I haven't been on the wikis for a while, I did that a little bit early on, but that might be interesting.
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  RE: ID Lines... Possibilities!
November 3, 2008 2:54:04 PM    View the profile of Luckystar 
There you go, I like the way you're talking already.
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November 3, 2008 2:58:35 PM    View the profile of Kanderin Draken 
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  RE: ID Lines... Possibilities!
November 3, 2008 2:59:18 PM    View the profile of Cosmic 
Slasher wrote:ok, a couple things, first it wouldn't be any change to the avatar, but rather it would replace what is below it,
E.G.
[VE-ARMY] High General
[VE-DJO] Krath Oracle
[VE-VEEC] Chairman

Would become

[VE-ARMY] +++++|+++++
[VE-DJO] Krath Oracle
[VE-VEEC] Chairman

I haven't done anything other than the Army that would apply to you right now, but that gives you an idea.

Also, while I get the rejection part, I don't receive much in the way of encouragement. I don't think people like my work, and I'm thinking of just dropping it and hoping my chances of promotion aren't ruined by what has already happened.

But thanks for the post, just everyone seems to not like my work.

Don't think of it as "negative comments" but rather what they are: constructive criticism. As far as "encouragement" goes, I think I and several others have done the job of that: telling you to keep up with the ideas and proposals because one of them may actually be to the liking of the High Council/AHC/NHC. As mentioned before, only some of my ideas are popular while the rest are not.

As far as the ranks under the avatar goes, if you look at it, I think it'd be odd and confusing to a new member to see two divisions with actual written ranks and one division with a bunch of ASCII code. :P

Personally, if I saw:
[VE-ARMY] <++>|<++>

I wouldn't know what to make of that.

When it comes to proposals, sometimes the most "creative" ideas don't go through. The ideas that *do* go through are usually ones that simplify things and make things easier to understand or to make more intuitive to someone. Proposals that tend to make things more complex than they already are, or require someone to take more time to think about what they're looking at, are proposals that don't usually fly.
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  RE: ID Lines... Possibilities!
November 3, 2008 3:02:45 PM    View the profile of Slasher 
ok, btw, we now have a Falleen page on the Wiki, I just took the one from Wookiepedia and removed some stuff.
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