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March 19, 2008 6:10:43 PM    View the profile of Dante 
There's nothing silly about Dark Empire; besides, Kadann need not relinquish power. We could be one of the factions that does not recognize the reborn Emperor and could substitute in the Byss Empire for Thrawn as a foe...Of course it could be decided that the events of Dark Empire after the NR retaking of Coruscant are simply not mentioned...
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March 19, 2008 8:00:58 PM    View the profile of Sniping101 
You really don't find the galaxy gun, eclipse class star destroyers and reborn emperors silly?
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March 19, 2008 8:13:29 PM    View the profile of Dante 
No more than the Death Star, ISD's, and Darth Vader. As far as the EU goes, Dark Empire is actually pretty good.
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March 19, 2008 8:30:07 PM    View the profile of Gimp 
Did you just take a roundabout path of calling Darth Vader silly?
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March 20, 2008 8:53:21 AM    View the profile of Ibram Tyrol 
To be honest, I find the Canon in the books more realistic then the Comics. If you think about it, the Galaxy Gun and the Eclipse (Bar the appearence in the FOC expansion) appear in the comics.

I suggest we stick to the books, which are much cooler.

NJO was alright, I mean the Vong are a bit random, but what they did with it was alright. LOTF is a bit poo...especially where they are going with it.

I also hated the random choosing of Caedus' name, just like the chosing of Vaders name, i mean come on, two of the biggest badasses around, and they pick their names out of a hat?

Queer.
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March 20, 2008 9:24:58 AM    View the profile of Dante 
The LOTF author should be fed to starved Yavin IV piranha beetles, then cloned and killed again. Also, Caedus is a twat.

The comics ARE canon, like it or not. Besides, the idea of sending droid controlled vessels through hyperspace is far from new.
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March 20, 2008 9:51:08 AM    View the profile of TX-47 
Ya gotta' admit, Dante's got one helluva point.  The slave-rigged Katana Fleet had a live crew who got sick with a hive-virus, went ape-poodoo bonkers, then took the fleet jumping blindly & randomly through hyperspace till everyone killed each of, starved to death or died from the virus.  Ick!

Each World Devastator had its own AI, and they made the jumps through Hyperspace just fine.

BTW, the VE does have Eclipse-class SSDs; just go to the ICS & look under Capital Ships in Capital Ship (Command).  Since the only one made sold is not listed in either the Army or Navy Roster I can only conclude that it was bought by High Command or the DJO.  But we mere underlings are not to know of such things, L0L



On another note, shouldn't there be more variety in the Capital Ship (Command) section?  I'll have to look into that....
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March 20, 2008 10:00:50 AM    View the profile of Ibram Tyrol 
The comics may be canon, but since we're going to bulldoze through some canon anyway, i'd rather we bulldoze the comics.

And the LOTF author's (there's three of them) themselves are actually good writers. Karen Travis for instance is a legend, but the whole plot line itself is rather weak.

Although i LOVE the fact they reintroduced Daala. That was a long time coming.
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March 20, 2008 10:06:41 AM    View the profile of Riqimo 
Speaking of the Katana fleet, we already altered those events.

Can't recall exactly how, but less ships survived or something.

As for the Eclipse, most likely just there for show, I doubt we technically employ it

Heck, Kad owns the one ring and we don't use it

Thing is, we run a parallel storyline to the cannon.  Sure we follow it somewhat, but we use it as a guide.  Branch off quite a bit, but tangent back on it when we need some events from outside our little Empire.
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March 20, 2008 10:13:27 AM    View the profile of Ibram Tyrol 
Yeh, as the higher ups keep saying.

You know there should really be a record of events so far, according to the VE.

At the very least a summary of each chapter.
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March 20, 2008 10:15:17 AM    View the profile of C-3PX2 
/me throw in a little note.
Ibram Tyrol wrote:I also hated the random choosing of Caedus' name, just like the chosing of Vaders name, i mean come on, two of the biggest badasses around, and they pick their names out of a hat?

"Vader", also "vater", is the German & Dutch word for "father". There was no randomness in the name, just a little teaser and spoiler of what was going on in the movies.
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March 20, 2008 10:19:59 AM    View the profile of Riqimo 
Ibram Tyrol wrote:At the very least a summary of each chapter.

You want to summarize at least 1000 posts?

Edit: Chapter 8 had 968 posts
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March 20, 2008 10:23:24 AM    View the profile of Ibram Tyrol 
I mean in the actual films C. I'm sure the OOC reason for chossing Vader was sound, but if you recall:

"You are ready to take your place at my side (or something like that) from hence forth, you shall be known as Darth......Vader"

Which roughly translates into:

"Erm....what shall we call you....erm...how about.......Vader? Yeh? That work you you big guy? Cool....Vader it is...."

And again, at the end of...whichever book it is that Jason chooses his name:

Jason suddenly knew is destiny, he saw it all clearly...including his new Sith name. He would no longer be called Jason. From now on he would be known as Darth Caedus. (Paraphrased slightly, but you get the jist)

This translates into:

Hmmm...what should i call myself....Vader? No that's taken....erm...has to be something comepltely random that has never before been seen....where's my hat of names.......ahha! Caedus it is!
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March 20, 2008 10:48:49 AM    View the profile of Dante 
Karen Travis is a fool suffering from a homoerotic obsession with the uber-cool, ultimate Mandolorians of DOOM!!! Remember, their old man of a Mandalore was pwned by an blind guy with a stick and a dumb Wookie. And it's Jacen, not Jason.

And the comics are almost the only canon source from this time. We ignore them, we may as well say the Clone Wars never happened.
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March 20, 2008 11:26:47 AM    View the profile of Aeos 
heh,need i say this is going slightly off-topic?
Besides, if any of the HC cared, they would've replied long time ago,
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March 20, 2008 12:27:29 AM    View the profile of Ibram Tyrol 
I think this thread moved away from the general topic long ago :P Personally i've never had this discussion with you people before, so i'm relishing it now.

>.< You take that Back Dante! Every Author has their "theme" and hers is the Manalorians - no-one else bothers to tell their story after all.

And if the comics are the only source of the Dark Empire thingy, then the Dark Empire thingy is poo :P

If it were actually decent, then a book would have been done about it, or at least referenced it.
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March 20, 2008 12:56:01 AM    View the profile of TX-47 
Sorry 'bout that Aeos  This thread is about our Characters aging as the VE progresses.  On that note my Bio reads "Age: 20 [in 9 ABY]" which also implies ages of friends & family listed are that age in 9 ABY as well.

The 'fact' our faction "Vast Empire" exists automatically makes us Infinities, not canon: any further discussion regarding VE's possible futures, what EU elements should be considered for adapting or using or not should start a new thread.

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March 20, 2008 1:57:33 PM    View the profile of C-3PX2 
Hehe. I just realized something.
If we do have some sort of "Age" thing. My Character would only be 3 Years old... Built in 7 ABY.
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March 20, 2008 4:10:15 PM    View the profile of Dante 
Ibram, there's a difference between telling a story and making some group of intergalactic thugs save the poor Jedi and the galaxy from the big, bad Sith.

TX, infinities or not, following canon would give us some structure. If we aren't going to use D.E., I actually think the status quo isn't that bad.
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March 20, 2008 4:56:27 PM    View the profile of Sniping101 
The eclipse belongs to FES, if I remember right.

Dark Empire is silly. That's all I have to say about it. World Devastators I could handle, didn't like 'em, but I can handle 'em. The Eclipse, reborn emperors and especially the galaxy gun are silly. Always will be silly and shall never stop being silly. I mean why did they even shape the galaxy gun like a gun when it shoots self guided missiles? They could point it the other direction and still hit what they're aiming at. It is silly. I say we go tromping through as much canon as we please, I'm completely OK with using the Thrawn Trilogy and the movies as the main references and anything else we use for minute details, such as people and maybe things that happened in the past, but leave out the major happenings. However I think a course of action has already been determined. In fact Fury has a post about it on the main army comnet. I believe he states that we'll most likely ignore the dark empire series. I like to think it's because he has sense and realizes they're silly.

Anyway. As for characters aging, it's actually a good idea. We wouldn't age fast, or in real time, but after every chapter or a series of chapters a 'year' could be ticked off on our profiles. It wouldn't automatically update each year, just something Kad-man could change the value of and it would pop the whole VE up a year. Of course this would probably be fairly work intensive and possibly not worth the effort. An alternative would be a post on the main or something telling everyone a year has passed, age your damn characters.
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March 20, 2008 4:58:41 PM    View the profile of Dante 
we could simply not go anywhere near the areas Dark Empire is placed in...(eg. Byss, Mon Calamari, etc...)
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March 20, 2008 5:17:55 PM    View the profile of Ibram Tyrol 
You really want that gun don't you Dante? lol

And i hardly think the Mandalorians were a group of Intergalactic Thugs.
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March 20, 2008 6:12:13 PM    View the profile of Dante 
I just want canon to be followed...
The Mandalorians were a group of idiots who mount invasions of the galaxy, get defeated, and repeat the same thing a few centuries later. They also have a nasty habit of losing their heads in combat. Besides, LOTF is shit right now.
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March 20, 2008 6:31:31 PM    View the profile of Ibram Tyrol 
On that we can agree.

I really don't like how they're suggesting its going to end. I was hoping for an actual final showdown between Jacen and Luke, but it looks like he's going to chicken out and Jaina is going to do it, which is stupid because she hasn't really been in it up till now, about from that whole Alema Ra thing.

And i don't know if i like were the whole canon story is going either, as the "Legacy" era doesn't look that good either.

Still, as i said earlier: Daala. Legend.
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  RE: Age...its a drag:P
March 20, 2008 7:43:36 PM    View the profile of Dante 
Daala back = good. Method of bringing her back = bad.
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