The VEEC has been around for a while, about 3 or 4 years or so.  Apparently the way things are currently set up are not working, so some changes need to be made. Here is my idea, which I've already pitched towards Talon (El Presidente) and have had him agree with this, but I kinda want to know what you guys think about it as well.  The five or so of you that actually post on this thing make 7 brains and that's far better than just the two of us trying to come up with ideas. We want to completely scrap the VEEC and replace it with a developer's network of sorts.  A place where members of this "network" can post tutorials, share ideas, get help with projects, brain storm new techniques, etc.  It will not be treated the same way as a normal VE division.  You will not receive a monthly paycheck, you will be paid based on the output that you put out.  The VEDN will not take suggestions or compelte projects for the VE divisions, instead we will be a resource place as well as a place to get support for members of the Army, Navy, and DJO to come to get information on how to do things to help their own divisions. We kinda have been toying with how to make sure that this new network will not be a bloated organization that it once was under previous leaders, myself included.  Some things that have come up, making it a subscription based system, for only 1000 IC's a month or something you can be a part of this.  Maybe also put something into the join form that says if you don't do something constructive each month, or don't even bother to do anything for an entire month you are removed.  I really don't have very many good ideas to do this. That being said, let me tell you what you should expect from a system such as this.  Resources, we'll start gathering/writing tutorials or useful files that will be of help to our members.  The ability to consult other people that are doing similar  tasks.  One of the things that was most useful while I was working on some of the pages for the domain was that I had a resource such as Kadann to bounce ideas off/get help with when i needed it.  A pool of people that are able to test/make suggestions to your projects.  One of the things that's useful is to be able to release mods to people that will play the hell out of them and let you know if they work or not.  Of course, people not members will not be allowed to do this, and distributing other peoples projects to people outside of this group will be prohibited. As I said before please let me know if any of you are interested in this, or have other suggestions that need to be made to make this idea better.  If you don't like it, please do more than say, "THIS IDEA SUCKS!".  Tell us why.  Constructive Criticism is always welcome, unconstructive criticism will cause you to be removed from the group.
 
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Three, I disagree. Argon posts here as well. So thats 6.5 brains But with the VEDN idea - I think that its basically pretty good. I think that it should be split up a bit more, say into departments. There could be three (?) departments, each run by one or two people, who have to make sure their department is running alright. Its also their job to report to the big cheeses (Tal & 3) about who needs money. Then we get people actually put into defined groups so their peers know what they're talking about. Just a thought..
 
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Ok bear, you don't seem to understand this.  This isn't gonna be a division of sorts, it's gonna be a freelance kinda thing that sponsors projects. The VE Today is a project led by Bear.  It has several members under him.  When the VE Today puts out an issue, it will be paid by the DN for the quality of it's work.  Then Bear will turn around and pay the people that worked under him. No divisions other than that, and you can work on as many projects as you have time. 3
 
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In all honesty i don't know what projects you're talking about, talk to the person you sent them to.  Your concern while it may be important to you, the VEDN isn't about making that cool dolla, it's more about giving you the resources to help the army, navy, or DJO and maybe earning the money from them. 
 
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It seems to have been taken up    As for the rest, as long as I can still make missions for the possibility of them actually being used, I'm all for it 
 
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In my humble opinion, I think that a Developer's Network would be a good idea. The Engineering Corps is pretty much dead. Only a few of the members submit missions, etc. Having something like a DN, I think, would be good to have. I've been in the Vast Empire and the Internet for some time now. The things I needed most were: Resources, Tutorials, How-To stuff. That's what I wanted. Not so much Custom Made. I am making a GB Tutorial, as TJ had said in a previous post. I plan to not do this alone. I want people to look at my tutorial, see what's not there, and email me with some new "tricks" (for triggers, etc.). I'm hoping that my tutorial will be a large enough so that it will be a main resource for GB Scenario designers. Now, I'm I have just started on the Trigger's portion of my tutorial. I'll get in a few more tutorials concerning that subject before I actually upload it. Now, just flat out and clear: I think that a DN would be a great idea.
 
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I used to be a great mission maker, probably still would be if anyone ever actually wanted a mission from me, in TIE, XvT, and XWA.  As far as making understandable tutorials for such things I do not seem all that talented in, but then I have an important quality: I'm willing to try. I can't really promise much activity in any sort of DN or EC, but I've always been here to see if I can help even if I'm not too good at it when it came to my particular area of expertise. So whatever you decide to do let me know and I'll still and try to help others be better TIE, XvT, and XWA mission makers if I can. I do also have an XWA patch available that corrects warhead speads to be what they are listed as being in TIE. The only major problem that I forsee is that even when something was being accomplished in the VEEC, no one in the other divisions was taking advantage of it, or using the product that people had worked on so hard.
 
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Oh Tal, I do have the old payscale from my regime and there should still be one linked from the info page of the VEEC site if it is still there. If it isn't still there I can send it on through.
 
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"If we had all knowladge then why would we seek what we already know and if we had no knowladge then how could we even ask the question?"  Plato
"Indeceant exposure is fun." Sonatina
"There are at least three sides to any situation." Me

sounds good, but i have a quick question. Say someone wants to learn HTML that isn't part of the VEDN, maybe just wants to make a little webpage for his squadron, update that, have a few images. would that person be able to access the VEDN tutorials, or would those only be for people willing to put out a project a month and pay the 1000 ICs. My other question would be that if the project a month thing is enforced, would that mean turning out a new site everymonth or just keeping different ones updated. third question would be just in general what kind of sites would qualify as a VEDN project
 
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