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  RE: Ogre Slaying Knife (+5 against ogres!)
August 21, 2010 6:15:35 PM    View the profile of Aeos 
Tal, the boy is young, he doesn't know any better yet. I'm sure in due time he will learn!

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  RE: Ogre Slaying Knife (+5 against ogres!)
August 21, 2010 9:17:43 PM    View the profile of Hunter-Morrell 
To whom are you referring to Ae?
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  RE: Ogre Slaying Knife (+5 against ogres!)
August 21, 2010 9:24:29 PM    View the profile of Jager 
Quote:Talon: while i agree with you that sometimes stories are unoriginal and sometimes things can be inappropriate such as (Ae) a chainsaw or a ridiculous weapon, characters like mine, namely Razor, rely on special weapons like his disk shooter not unlike a lanvarok.  Special weapons are a neccesary part of VE life.

And why is that? Is it really 'necessary' to have a special weapon? If it was necessary, we may as well just write about an armory rather then actually characters.

Please, explain why it is necessary to have special weapons.
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  RE: Ogre Slaying Knife (+5 against ogres!)
August 21, 2010 10:05:51 PM    View the profile of razorsedge 
Jager wrote:
Quote:Talon: while i agree with you that sometimes stories are unoriginal and sometimes things can be inappropriate such as (Ae) a chainsaw or a ridiculous weapon, characters like mine, namely Razor, rely on special weapons like his disk shooter not unlike a lanvarok.  Special weapons are a neccesary part of VE life.

And why is that? Is it really 'necessary' to have a special weapon? If it was necessary, we may as well just write about an armory rather then actually characters.

Please, explain why it is necessary to have special weapons.

They are not necessarily special weapons so much as weapons that have a specific purpose that people might not normally carry in an average trooper's setting. People bring and write about these special weapons because they are interesting to them.  Razor (my character) specializes in close combat and explosives so he carries weapons a normal trooper wouldn't have.  I enjoy writing about those weapons which is why I am a HWS and also why I write about melee training/combat in some part of virtually every post.
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August 21, 2010 10:57:16 PM    View the profile of Bacredi 
Personally, and I know this is hypocritical (because of this), I think that equipment kinda makes the story "easier" to write, something that it probably shouldn't be. Also, wtf is a disc shooter?
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August 21, 2010 11:09:50 PM    View the profile of razorsedge 
Wrote a personal story about it.  Fires cortosis coated razor edged disks.  Razor designed it.  It is not unlike a lanvarok
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  RE: Ogre Slaying Knife (+5 against ogres!)
August 21, 2010 11:09:51 PM    View the profile of razorsedge 
Wrote a personal story about it.  Fires cortosis coated razor edged disks.  Razor designed it.  It is not unlike a lanvarok
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  RE: Ogre Slaying Knife (+5 against ogres!)
August 21, 2010 11:31:07 PM    View the profile of Talon 
razorsedge wrote:Fires cortosis coated razor edged disks.

...

Who the hell let you get away with that?
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August 21, 2010 11:37:11 PM    View the profile of razorsedge 
Talon wrote:
razorsedge wrote:Fires cortosis coated razor edged disks.

...

Who the hell let you get away with that?

umm.... ummm..... Rizzit did it I swear
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August 22, 2010 12:28:45 AM    View the profile of Raziel 
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August 22, 2010 1:33:08 AM    View the profile of Raziel 
So other than costing you a few thousand ICs a shot whats the point of the cortosis coating?
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August 22, 2010 2:56:01 AM    View the profile of Talon 
To make it Jedi-proof. :P

Oh, and it takes villages of slaves years to mine enough for one battle's worth of discs.
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  RE: Ogre Slaying Knife (+5 against ogres!)
August 22, 2010 3:57:23 AM    View the profile of Jager 
Quote:Wrote a personal story about it.  Fires cortosis coated razor edged disks.  Razor designed it.  It is not unlike a lanvarok

Man... Just... god damn. Really? Like, really? You really use this on a regular basis?
Quote:Personally, and I know this is hypocritical (because of this), I think that equipment kinda makes the story "easier" to write, something that it probably shouldn't be. Also, wtf is a disc shooter?

You mean easier to extend by a hundred or so words, sure. The only truly hard part about writing a story is coming up with a solid plot that can hook your reader.
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  RE: Ogre Slaying Knife (+5 against ogres!)
August 22, 2010 10:24:35 AM    View the profile of razorsedge 
Jager wrote:
Quote:Wrote a personal story about it.  Fires cortosis coated razor edged disks.  Razor designed it.  It is not unlike a lanvarok

Man... Just... god damn. Really? Like, really? You really use this on a regular basis?
Quote:Personally, and I know this is hypocritical (because of this), I think that equipment kinda makes the story "easier" to write, something that it probably shouldn't be. Also, wtf is a disc shooter?

You mean easier to extend by a hundred or so words, sure. The only truly hard part about writing a story is coming up with a solid plot that can hook your reader.

Fair enough Jager.  You make some good points but my disc throwers were specifically designed for assassination stories because they are silent and accurate killers.  I used them along with other members of the VEA in the story series Silent Action.
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August 22, 2010 10:59:11 AM    View the profile of Raziel 
and the cortosis?
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August 22, 2010 11:06:37 AM    View the profile of Aeos 
The boy will learn, cut him some slack you bad-ass veterans :P

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August 22, 2010 11:21:27 AM    View the profile of Jegora 
Yes, well, mine is a great and terrible power, a weapon unlike any the universe has ever seen!

I wield...

The Schwarz!
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August 22, 2010 11:22:53 AM    View the profile of Atrasin 
i've heard your schwarz is not as big as most...and rather underpowered.

just saying...things are being said
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August 22, 2010 11:49:20 AM    View the profile of Ron 
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Mutant ninja turtles pizza disk thrower = Razorsedge.

Nuff said.
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August 22, 2010 12:31:18 AM    View the profile of Riqimo 
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I actually owned that.  Probably still around somewhere in storage. >.>




Anyways, actual contribution I hope makes sense:

"Special Equipment" is not something I see as defining a character, I find it far more creative and effective to instead use "signature styles" in many cases.

Let's take Riqimo for an example of style over equipment, he's an oddball of sorts, a former pacifist who believes it's necessary to fight and kill at times, but only after all other options have been exhausted.  As such, he tends to carry a sai-like weapon, aiming to disarm his opponents with it.

Kairo (whom unfortunately many of you "newbies" do not actually know) was another who focused on how he used the weapons to make his character stand out, he was a master knife thrower, even using them to "inspire" his platoon to follow his orders time to time.

Equipment can be lost, stolen, or plain broken.  A style is with you pretty much forever, and can even be done with improvised materials if necessary; ie. Riq could improvise a pitchfork if he had to.




And to avoid accusations, I'm not arguing for or against special equipment.  Riqimo actually has some plans of his own (on the DJO side of things) for a "special" of sorts.  Just remember that if you do go this route, plan it out carefully, else you might find yourself writing into a dead end where you have to have that particular item or else your writing/character suffers for it.
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August 22, 2010 1:07:54 PM    View the profile of Talon 
I had that too Doc! I know mine's long gone though.
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August 22, 2010 1:41:50 PM    View the profile of Havock 
Its kinda cool, i recently found all my old TMNT toys and gave them to our daughter, she still likes my husbands extensive lego collection more bah.
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August 22, 2010 7:20:24 PM    View the profile of Angel 
razorsedge wrote:Wrote a personal story about it.  Fires cortosis coated razor edged disks.  Razor designed it.  It is not unlike a lanvarok
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sith_lanvarok

Wow...just...wow.
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August 22, 2010 7:38:07 PM    View the profile of Hunter-Morrell 
Havock wrote:Its kinda cool, i recently found all my old TMNT toys and gave them to our daughter, she still likes my husbands extensive lego collection more bah.

Your daughter rocks. Legos FTW
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