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Disallowment of knowlege of the force
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April 3, 2008
2:09:35 PM
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Since they switch calenders so often I'm not sure the exact time the Galatic Empire was around but using the Great Resynchronization as a timing point the Empire is around for 23 somthing years (until the Emperor dies). Well considering there is probably people who are above 23, then it is almost no chance that Jedi and the Force are MYTHS. They are exctint yes but not unknown of. And another thing, if we fight NR forces then they have jedi (Luke Skywalker remakes the academy) so wouldn't we atleast KNOW about Jedi and the force?
If there is some reasoning to why we don't know or anything please tell me, this is just something I just realized and was wondering about.
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RE: Disallowment of knowlege of the force
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April 3, 2008
4:28:32 PM
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You know, I don't think Luke's academy has been created yet. Also, you have to consider the fact that our universe is like an alternate universe - some things may not happen, or happen differently.
To public knowledge, the Jedi attempted to betray the republic/empire, and were completely destroyed by the clonetrooper corps. With their death, the hokey-religion of "The force" died as well. Remember that only an extremely small minority of people have ever witnessed the power of the force, and would believe in the Jedi's powers.
It's not that we don't know the Jedi existed - we just believe the force was a myth they created for themselves to create the impression of power.
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RE: Disallowment of knowlege of the force
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April 3, 2008
4:56:54 PM
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I think you're slightly missing his point Darr. For the sake of argument, lets say that Galactic Empire did only last 23 years from Order 66 - Battle of Endor. Add onto that 9 years (32, that would mean that anyone over 35 could possibly have seen/heard of Jedi and learned about the force powers they have. I mean if there was an academy, then going by the basic principles of an academy, everyone would have wanted in, and so have been on the look out for their own respective force powers or that of their family.
However, even if someone was say 35, they would only have been 3 years old when Order 66 was given. And assuming Palpatine wanted to erase all knowledge of the Jedi, as well as their mere physical presence, i'm pretty sure a 3 year old could be convinced otherwise.
And if i'm going to be even more honest, anyone who is over 30 here in the VE is probably in the DJO anyway, so the point is moot.
And yeah, you do also have a point regarding the "alternate timeline", but until the HC says otherwise, we have to assume that things that have happened in canon, happened to us as well - I have yet to see them say that Luke Skywalker doesn't remake the academy in our time line.
Going back to you're question Specter, try to look at it as a form of control or regulation, rather then an actual academic point. The HC would rather not have everyone who joins up go crazy with some Uber L33z force powers or whatever, so they ban it in order to keep things nice and tidy. When/If you make it into the DJO, then you can start wielding force powers to your hearts content - but you have to earn it.
At the end of the day, you just gotta live with it i'm afraid.
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RE: Disallowment of knowlege of the force
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April 3, 2008
5:51:46 PM
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We didn't say the creation of Luke Piemakers academy wasn't going to happen, merely at our time it hasn't happened yet.
If you think about the sheer number of beings in the galaxy, then the number of jedi there where (I don't know an exact number, but I should think comparatively few) Then take into account anyone who actually witnessed a jedi doing force things, which would again be few because from the looks of it they mostly used subtle powers that were not easily witnessed, a mind trick here, a little . Then take into account that the Emperor would have used his considerable power to discredit rumors of these 'powers' the jedi were said to have. That equates to not many people knowing much of anything.
Either way, It's none of my concern, the force never had much appeal to me.
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RE: Disallowment of knowlege of the force
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April 3, 2008
6:53:10 PM
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Well, I think the guys are putting it a little too nicely. The final matter in the situation is despite whatever the cannon says, if the HC says that you are not allowed knowledge of or to posses Force powers, then that's the final word. To quote so many people over so many years, this is not a democracy it is a dictatorship.
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RE: Disallowment of knowlege of the force
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April 4, 2008
6:00:26 AM
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I tend to think of the HC like China and the knowledge of the force like Freedom of expression etc...
Its not really about whether or not anyone knew anything about the force during our timeline, thats just a nice face on things.
As Al puts it, its simply because we're not allowed ^^
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RE: Disallowment of knowlege of the force
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April 4, 2008
1:53:11 PM
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Yeah I just thought about that and was wondering if there was an explanation for that.
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RE: Disallowment of knowlege of the force
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April 5, 2008
6:28:48 PM
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You'll find that we tend to stay as far away from the EU as much as possible (excluding certain events), we try to remain true to the movies' storylines - but we also add events/story paths of our own.
Most of the time, we use events as guidelines. I'll leave the official statement to the HC, though.
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RE: Disallowment of knowlege of the force
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April 6, 2008
8:38:03 PM
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Ever hear of propaganda? Big brother is watching, and you know what he lets you know.
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