Ramon Stonefish
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RE: Trooper Specialisations
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February 19, 2002
5:08:17 AM
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A few suggestions:
Split vehicle crewer up into possibly sub-specialisations of:
- Tank crewer (Heavy vehicles, gunnery, little infantry skills)
- APC crewer (Heavy vehicles, infantry skills(
- Light skimmer crewer (Vehicle agility, comms, scouting)
- Shuttle pilot (Atmospheric flight, vehicle agility, evasive maneuvers)
There could be more there, but that's all that springs to mind.
Another advanced class that comes out of crewing a vehicle could be Scout pilot or Army pilot: Atmospheric fighter pilot (I know this one has been discussed a couple times, but I'm suggesting it anyway).
The advanced classes that stand are wrong, IMO. They are too broad again. Advancement generally means specialisation even further. So rather than, say, Scout ecnompassing scout, spy, saboteur, and whatever else, they should all be seperate advanced specialisations.
Advanced specialisation of Urban Operations?
Advanced specialisation of Long term Ops?
There's also the obvious missing class of Trooper (which should have the following):
- Basic skills:
- Blaster rifle shooting
- Projectile rifle shooting
- Sidearm shooting
- Use of light explosives
- Armour maintenance (not repair)
- Weapon maintenance (not repair)
- Use of emplaced weaponry
- Basic Rocketry
- Advanced skills
- Squad tactics
- Leadership
- Navigation
That's what I think anyway. -----------------------
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RE: Trooper Specialisations
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February 19, 2002
1:34:47 PM
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The one argument we received originally was that we didn't want to overload the specialties. Most of that is because administration of it would be a full time job in itself. Personally, I did not want the thing to devolve into the US Army type of MOS listings of hundreds of jobs. I mean, who really wants to be stuck as AT-ST Navigation Console Repairman?
This doesn't mean there isn't room for flexibility, but a Sharpshooter shoots things despite the environment, and Delta Force operates in both urban and rural environs. I am considered a sub-specialty for the vehicle crewman though as I really like that idea.
The aviation one: duly noted and on the shelf, though thanks for the reminder.
The basic infantry one: sitting on the shelf as well as it was considered default training. It could be uploaded if enough people want to see it. -----------------------
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RE: Trooper Specialisations
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February 19, 2002
2:51:15 PM
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AT-PT Nav Console repairman? I didn't intend for it to go that far, but I still think that the specialisations (some of them) that you have put up are a little too broad. For example, the HWS is gonna have a list of training like Corben Dallas.
Perhaps they could be broken up a little into skill sets, rather than new specialisations. Rather than just basic and advanced, have starter, basic and advanced. When you join this specialisation you get these, you choose x from y and you can move on to z.
And plus, if you're doing this, then I think the trooper spec should be uploaded for completeness sake, and so that anyone looking at it knows where they start from...
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RE: Trooper Specialisations
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February 20, 2002
5:30:26 PM
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He's right, an AT-AT pilot might have a little trouble flying a snowspeeder(for example).  -----------------------
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RE: Trooper Specialisations
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February 22, 2002
4:20:17 PM
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But what would we need with snowspeeders if we have AT-ATs?
Just have to make sure they don't get any harpoon cables anywhere near us, and watch out for Jedi.  -----------------------
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RE: Trooper Specialisations
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February 22, 2002
5:09:34 PM
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Shadow, the point is that if a snowspeeder were the only available option, an AT-AT driver wouldn't be able to fly it. Fish's right, it's too broad... -----------------------
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RE: Trooper Specialisations
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February 22, 2002
7:51:16 PM
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Well, here's my input if anybody cares. The squad specialization is supposed to be general. The squad leader and the members of the squad can then specialize further within their own squad. Say a squad is an armor squad. The squad leaders and members could then assign duties like a scut, certain tank drivers, certain areas of expertise. If you want to be specific, you could do it like that. -----------------------
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RE: Trooper Specialisations
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February 22, 2002
11:15:03 PM
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Duh... What I meant was the individual specializations. A squad, naturally they would have many different specializations and could be general, but people can't. -----------------------
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RE: Trooper Specialisations
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February 22, 2002
11:46:12 PM
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That's a good idea, a squad might be like SWAT or SEAL type squads. One member is a scout, ones a medic, grenadier, whatever. It's all great. Little too broad on specializations, but great. -----------------------
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