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  Who is the greatest Sith EVER?
August 11, 2011 9:58:29 PM    View the profile of Serpent 
Put it simply, I love the Sith, so do a lot of people, I think.  In the Original Trilogy, Darth Vader was by far the most iconic character, and when Phantom Menace (weak as it was) hit, some 90% of the merchandising revenue was Darth Maul related.  Luckily, the Expanded Universe has given us plenty more Sith to cheer over the years, and to be fair most of them are pretty cool.  More than simply bad guys with red lightsabers, most of them are cunning, deadly, with weird powers and terrible motives.  Soon the Sith-filled MMO The Old Republic will be released, as will novels based on Darth Revan and Darth Plagueis.  We are about to be up to our eyeballs in Dark Lordy goodness!  With that in mind, I want to know.  Who does everyone think is the best Sith of them all?

Here is my personal top 5:

Number 5: Darth Sidious.  From the moment he first appeared in Empire Strikes Back, played by a woman with the eyes of a chimpanzee added (seriously, look it up!) he cast a shadow over everything.  A silver-tongued master manipulator, Sidious is the true villain of the Star Wars movies.

Number 4: Darth Caedus:  If you don’t know who he is, I won’t ruin it.  Suffice to say that he has been in dozens of Star Wars novels, told over some fifteen years.  As such his fall to the dark side has been played out wonderfully, ever so gradually, and frankly done with more believability than Anakin’s fall.  Truly an icon.

Number 3: Darth Traya: One of the rare female Sith Lords, Traya is simply the most intelligent and wise of all characters in Star Wars.  She views the galaxy in shades of grey, not light and dark, and has controversial (and fascinating) views on the Force, the Jedi, and the Sith.  More than a Dark Lady, she is also a supreme philosopher.

Number 2: Darth Revan:  In the words of his teacher, “Revan was power.  Looking at him was like looking into the heart of the Force.”  Awesome though his legend is, and tempted as I was to make him my number 1, he regrettably turned from the Sith and rejoined the light.  A sad end to an otherwise brilliant career.

Number 1: Exar Kun.  Back before every Sith was adding ‘Darth’ to their name, Kun was an awesome villain who did next to nothing wrong in his quest for power (I won’t say how he was beaten, but it was not his fault).  Envisioned by his writers as someone so dark “he makes Darth Vader look like a nun,” he is pure cool.  His achievements are many: the inventor of the double-bladed lightsaber, nuked whole star systems, corrupted dozens of Jedi, murdered his own Master in the Senate Hall with the whole Senate watching helplessly, the list goes on.  If you don’t know him, think Palpatine’s cunning and lust for power, combined with Maul’s physical abilities and lightsaber skills.  Yes, he was that good.

So, who does everyone else like?  Any Darth Talon fans want to air their views, or maybe someone confused that I did not mention Darth Bane?  Anyone want to speak up for Darth Tyranus?  Let me know!
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August 11, 2011 10:27:18 PM    View the profile of Echelon 
Psh. Who needs Sith when you can blow people up with the Death Star?

P.S. I only like Revan because of his mask. Which I think is a female Mandalorian mask.
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  RE: Who is the greatest Sith EVER?
August 11, 2011 10:50:22 PM    View the profile of Garryll Gates 
There's no difference between Male and Female, Human or Nonhuman Mandalorian armor. That being said...

Bane, as followed by his story arc, is just utterly badass. He created the Sith's Rule of Two, managed to trick his peers into their own destruction and kill hundreds of Jedi Knights and Masters, then single-handedly fought three more Jedi Masters in single combat and killed all of them. His combination is often forgotten because he wasn't ever in a game or the movies.

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August 11, 2011 10:54:05 PM    View the profile of Fyston 
I honestly think Bane deserves a mention in your list. 1k years before the movies was a time when the Sith were both enlisted foot soldiers and actual Force Sensitive Dark Lords. He had a natural talent in the Force, just as Skywalker did. However, instead of using it as a petty podracer, Bane led the Gloom Walkers to victory when death was expected.

He surpassed the other students at Korriban and got over his withdrawal from the Dark Side with the cunning and guile that we have come to expect from the Sith. At this point, like I said before, the Sith used mass strength of both foot soldiers and Sith that were less than capable. I mean, they even had huge academies and split them up based on the strength of their students. During this time, cunning and stealth were ignored, as Kaan and the Brotherhood favored brute strength to conquer the AoL.

Bane single handedly destroyed the Brotherhood and lulled the Jedi into a sense of false security. In a time where nothing short of brawn over brains was encouraged, Bane broke free and used the skills that would lead the Sith to victory. He instilled a sense of cunning, strategy, and passion that ensured that the Sith would focus power in two individuals that could handle such power. Sidious and the Sith before him learned these critical traits that led them to victory.


Of course, Bane learned from Revan's holocron on Lehon. I'm unsure what, as I haven't read the Bane series in forever. However, he used the Dark Side to survive Synox long enough to get to Caleb, even killing scavengers to fuel his anger and passion.

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  RE: Who is the greatest Sith EVER?
August 11, 2011 11:43:21 PM    View the profile of Fain 
I agree with Fyston and Garryll. Darth Bane is probably one of the greatest Sith of all time. Orbalisk Armor was amazing until it almost killed him, though. If it wasn't for Darth Krayt, the Rule of Two would've gone on until the end of time. Though he was killed by his apprentice, that just proves that his system works.

Naga Sadow for pure precedence.

Darth Zannah because of her mastery over Sith Sorcery, and she beat Bane for the struggle for control. Only drawback is that she needed the help from that one Dark Jedi and his flambiontness.
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August 14, 2011 11:47:03 PM    View the profile of Kami 
Pfffft...Sith.

I'm throwing a vote in for Aleema Keto and the Krath.
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August 14, 2011 11:51:09 PM    View the profile of Serpent 
I was expecting a lot of support for Darth Bane, but for Aleema Keto!  Now there is an icon!  Back when I played the Wizards of the Coast Star Wars RPG, I did a whole campaign about the Krath and the lead villain was a rip-off of Aleema.  Good times, and glad to see I'm not the only fan of hers!
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  RE: Who is the greatest Sith EVER?
August 15, 2011 12:39:40 AM    View the profile of Fain 
Ah, but you have to remember; Keto was oen of Exar Kun's lackies. Bane on the other hand, has no master.
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August 15, 2011 12:46:49 AM    View the profile of Drac 
I'm not really sure who I'd list as my favorite Sith Lords...if I could throw out a retcon on a possible Sith Lord, I think Corran Horn would have been hell on wheels. He knows the side of law and order like the back of his hand and could predict most any Lightsider's actions pretty accurately. His original Sith master would have been Exar Kun, given that's the most likely point for his fall to the Dark Side, which would've been invaluable to him. Combine that with one of the strongest talents for illusion in the SW universe and he could give just about anyone a really bad day. Given his talent with Energy Absorbtion as well, I don't think it's too far a stretch to say that he could possibly make himself completely invulnerable to any and all energy-weapon based attacks, so long as he could anticipate them. How freaking scary would that be? Stab the dude with your lightsaber and it just goes out. Then he grins, unhurt. Then you die. Eep.

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