Talon
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RE: Clarification. Read At Your Own Risk
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January 30, 2009
7:29:15 PM
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That has actually been the topic of many, many conversations between AHC and myself. A simple answer to your question is yes, I have talked with Angel about being more... professional while in public. It was a semi-unrelated matter, but the same issue really.
As for the intention behind the razor blade comments... Rizzit and I have gone back and forth with this a lot. I hate to bring out more dirty laundry, but Darr seems to have been manipulating people with threats of suicide. He actually posted a suicide note on ComNet at one point. I don't think anyone got a screenshot before he took it down, but the sources I heard it from are very credible. I have also heard accounts of at least 3 other threats through MSN/IRC/whatever private messaging system he used. I don't want to outright discredit his depression.. but at what point is enough enough? I don't want to have an atmosphere of hate in the VE, but personally I was tired of getting yanked around about that stuff. Maybe I'm just an asshole, I dunno.
Anyone have 2 cents worth on that topic?
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Japheth
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RE: Clarification. Read At Your Own Risk
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January 30, 2009
7:37:25 PM
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I know I'm sort of an ass about things like this, but here's my 2 cents, since you solicited it.
I, personally, could give a crap less about whether or not people want to kill themselves. That's their own thing, and it does not - SHOULD not - concern me. I have basically no respect for someone in that state of mind because my own self-preservation instinct makes the very thought of suicide the most abhorrent thing I can imagine.
Threatening other people with the fact that you will kill yourself is about the lowest thing I can imagine in any context. If someone on the internet provokes you to that point, please, prove Darwin more correct.
I know that's probably harsh. I know it makes me seem very callous, but that's my stance.
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RE: Clarification. Read At Your Own Risk
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January 30, 2009
7:52:43 PM
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Personally that mentality doesn't agree with me anyway. Always despised it. If they're so weak and stupid that they believe that's their only out let them do it. Hell, encourage them. They'll either snap out of it and solve the problem or off themselves and solve the problem. Well, that's my opinion anyway. Life is full of choices and if that's theirs so be it. I won't forgive anyone that takes that path and there are more than a few people from my life that remain unforgiven for that ultimate act of stupidity.
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Hashi Shiyun
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RE: Clarification. Read At Your Own Risk
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February 5, 2009
1:05:05 PM
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Few things will move me to post on the comnet; this is one of them. This is dumb. The whole thing. I have my two cents to add, even though I have been away for a very long time. Do you know who my favourite member in the VE is? It's Snipes. He's carefree, fun and most importantly, I have never seen Snipes taking the VE so seriously as to be embroiled in the petty little power struggles that has always been a constant feature in every single online Star Wars club from Emperor's Hammer to our Vast Empire. Never. To me, though he cannot match the sterling contributions of newer members of the club such as Riqimo, he is my VE hero. On the surface he looks like the guy most likely to be checked into a nuthouse but I consider him the sanest guy in here. I do not know a single thing that's been going on about Darr, but from my cursory glance, I can only roll my eyes. You may dismiss me with a you-don't-know-what-are-you-talking-about. I will dismiss you with you-need-to-keep-a-fricking-sense-of-perspective-with-real-life. Let me remind all of you why we came to this club. We wanted to pretend to be Stormtroopers. Or TIE Pilots. Or Sith Lords. Repeat that aloud. I want to pretend that I'm a Stormtrooper in a Star Wars universe. We came here because we were so impressed by that opening battle scene in A New Hope where the Stormies duked it out with those pesky Rebels. Because of the TIE vs X-Wing dogfights. Because Carrie Fisher gave us a goddamn hard-on with her whole slave and metal bikini combo when we were hitting puberty. Look at yourselves. You all immersed yourselves so totally that you are concerned about faceless people hiding behind silly aliases reeking of purile fantasy like Angel, Talon, Darr-Rann, Snipes, Cosmic, Fury, Kadann not to mention Hashi Shiyun and so on and so forth and what they might do to you. You allowed yourselves to become so emotionally engaged that issues like who has ops, who got that stupid virtual medal, who has moderator status, is he abusing it, is this guy fit to be my virtual Stormtrooper squad leader and etcetera. I joined back in Sep 03. In my years here I have seen constant silly little quarrels over status that looking back, I am ashamed of them. If I were to take my girlfriend and point out to her all the silly little internal power struggles going on here, the grudges, the friction, she will laugh her head off at these silly little Star Wars nerds who seem to have lost all sense of manhood. She'd think the VE is a club made of junior high pre-pubescent bitches. It's just freaking Star Wars. Nothing more, nothing less. You don't need to get pissed even if you think someone is being mean to you, even if he is abusing ops. You don't need to get pissed if someone climbing over your head. Jesuuuuuuus Christ. Go out, get laid or something. It's just Star Wars man. Do you ALL mean to tell me that such issues carried so much emotional weight to you that a comnet topic needed to be opened up by no less than Talon for this? We're all nerds. Playing Stormies, TIE pilots and Jedi. Writing about how cool we are. End of story and get a grip. Jesuuuuuuuus Christ. You should be worried whether Obama gets his stimulus package through. Damn Republicans and their obstructionism. End of my incoherent rambling.
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RE: Clarification. Read At Your Own Risk
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February 5, 2009
1:08:53 PM
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Thanks Hashi for setting everyone straight. I think we collectively earned that rant.
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RE: Clarification. Read At Your Own Risk
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February 5, 2009
1:15:54 PM
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RE: Clarification. Read At Your Own Risk
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February 5, 2009
4:52:58 PM
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Don't mind me I'm just here to obstruct this thread.
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RE: Clarification. Read At Your Own Risk
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February 5, 2009
7:46:17 PM
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Hashi, someday, somehow, I am going to buy you a drink.
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RE: Clarification. Read At Your Own Risk
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February 5, 2009
8:09:56 PM
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Talon
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RE: Clarification. Read At Your Own Risk
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February 5, 2009
8:14:13 PM
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Every line of that post needed to be said, Hashi. Bravo.
Snipes, I do see how carefree you are about things around here and I'm a bit jealous. Unfortunately with my job a lot of times I have to do my best to remain impartial when I just want to backhand the person being stupid. I guess I'll just live vicariously through you. Drinks are on the house tonight for you.
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Sniping101
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RE: Clarification. Read At Your Own Risk
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February 5, 2009
9:56:43 PM
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We know, and it's much appreciated Tal. I'll throw one back for ya, I promise.
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RE: Clarification. Read At Your Own Risk
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June 26, 2009
12:18:22 AM
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Haishi, couldn't have said it better myself
Wel done
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RE: Clarification. Read At Your Own Risk
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June 26, 2009
12:29:21 AM
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And Snipes, your.............i don't know how to put it but I'll just say "ethics", are very amiable and people should at least make an attempt to achieve such conduct. Along with Talon, I envy that.
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RE: Clarification. Read At Your Own Risk
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June 26, 2009
1:58:49 AM
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Needless bump was needless.
The topic is 4 months dead. Why?
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Kanderin Draken
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RE: Clarification. Read At Your Own Risk
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June 26, 2009
8:19:42 AM
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Dammit Soccer, you just made Hashi's words burn all over again.
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RE: Clarification. Read At Your Own Risk
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June 26, 2009
9:35:42 AM
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This thing needs to be locked and cast into the bowels of Hell.
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RE: Clarification. Read At Your Own Risk
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June 27, 2009
7:44:08 PM
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I left this open to allow for more questions on the topic if any came up, but I think it's been long enough. Locked.
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