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LoneWolf
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  RE: Aegis needs pilots
March 17, 2002 3:30:23 PM    View the profile of LoneWolf 
Aegis is in need of pilots, i would of rathered talked to DH or kain first bout this but i havent seen them around much. getting to the point, any new ( or old) pilot who wishes to join The Elite Aegis Squadron plz give me an email at [email protected]  what im looking for right now is any new pilot who is showing a steady intersest on the Comnet and IRC. if you prove to be active enough to me or anyone elses in Aegis we'll pull some strings to get you placed in there soon. thank you for your attention and may the force be with you.
 
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Darkhawk
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  RE: Aegis needs pilots
March 17, 2002 10:19:15 PM    View the profile of Darkhawk 
Lonewolf, I really don't like the idea of newbies being placed in the Elite Squadron, but I also see the need for compromise. So... Any pilot who wants to be transferred to Aegis should be welcomed to it. And any new pilots that a member of Aegis personally recruits may be placed into Aegis, but those are the only trainees who will be considered. That's because I hope you could keep your own recruits in line after they graduate from the academy. Let's try this for a week or two and see how it works, okay? Thanks for your interest and hard work, LW. /me salutes
 
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Bear
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  RE: Aegis needs pilots
March 18, 2002 12:46:44 AM    View the profile of Bear 
** TOTAL RUBBISH DELETED BY BEAR **
[This message has been edited by Bear (edited March 19, 2002 12:23:11 AM)]
Darkhawk
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  RE: Aegis needs pilots
March 18, 2002 2:45:05 PM    View the profile of Darkhawk 
Bear, that is just about the stupidest and most childish thing I have ever seen you type. Almost. And here I had come to the level of having some respect for you. If you can't decide when to run your mouth and when to be quiet, I guess I can't do anything about that. But I believe you have the common sense enough to know fact from fiction and suggestions from orders and commands. If you have a problem with either Riel or Japheth, you may deal with them. If you have a problem with me - THEN DO IT IN PRIVATE, OR DON'T DO IT AT ALL. I have just about had it up to here with you being nice to me to my face and talking crap about me behind my back. I'm very tempted to delete anything you post these days, Lieutenant Commander. You're gone from the Navy, Bear, so get over it. If you have something you want to say to me, then say it to my face. No more of this behind-the-back stuff that you tried to pull on Riel. I've already admitted that what I did was wrong and asked forgiveness from every pilot in the Navy and also am working on fixing the situation. It's people like you - who retire and then try to undermine the actions of the Navy as a whole - you are the scum of the VEN. /me salutes
 
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LoneWolf
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  RE: Aegis needs pilots
March 18, 2002 3:57:58 PM    View the profile of LoneWolf 
CUT IT OUT BOTH OF YOU! listen both of you are not in Aegis ,its aegis that got lost in this promblem, and its aegis who will get out of it. i understand your all worried bout us but you cant hold our hands the whole time. Viper got newbies when it was elite and i dont want any new treatment that they did deserve as well. elite is elite but the remanders of Aegis desereved it and well find ppl who do deserve it as well. i think its been known long enough too that if someone wanted to be placed in Aegis we woudl of known by now wouldnt we?  Im taking the ignitiative to do some work for aegis because its what i see. and im taking an action because thats the ELITE thing to do. Im trying to do a solution not discuss it, so if you have something you want to try then plz try it right now. Any newbie who wishes to join give me an email if you dont prove yourself you will either get a depromotion or be removed from Aegis.
 
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  RE: Aegis needs pilots
March 18, 2002 9:13:18 PM    View the profile of Darkhawk 
I realize that anyone in another squadron who wanted to move to Aegis would've asked by now. I never intended to go around stealing pilots from the other three squadrons to place into Aegis. Unfortunately, Lonewolf, you aren't in charge of training - I am. But I understand your desire to help the squadron, so I guess I'll just start putting newbies in Aegis once they graduate the academy. The only problem is that, well, there hasn't been a new joiner to the Navy in three or four days. I can't place people if there's no one to train . . . recruitment is as much a key here as training. So, I'll go back to the old divide-and-conquer method of training and split all newbies up evenly. Sorry for causing such a big problem. You're right, Viper didn't get an special treatment - in fact, before I was TO, they were probably getting just the opposite - a majority of the worst and crappiest trainees. I feel sorry for Piett for having to go through all of that. So I just hope the same thing doesn't happen with Aegis. Good luck with recruiting and with getting your new pilots active and elite.
 
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Bear
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  RE: Aegis needs pilots
March 19, 2002 12:41:09 AM    View the profile of Bear 
I will try to keep this as mature and sensible as is possible (for me).. This is politics. DH is bickering because he thinks hes right. I am bickering because I think I'm right. Gravin is, Piett is.. even Riel is. We all think we're right. But who is? Instead of bickering about whos right and whos wrong, perhaps we should be asking the flight members what they want to be done? Everyone is going around saying "oh, do this, do that and it'll all be ok", and someone else is saying the opposite. But its the ordinary, normal members who hold the real power here. Without them, none of us would be here. DH would be off doing a law degree and earning millions of dollars, and I'd be in bed with a dozen lesbians. Ok, that may be our personal fantasies, but would we be enjoying ourselves? Well, I wil.. erm.. no. We're in the VE to enjoy ourselves; to have some fun; have a laugh. Theres enough beauracracy already.. lets get back to basics. Thats what I propose. May I offer my suggestions? Because DH and LW are not here to say yes, I'll offer them anyway I think we should all shut up, for a start. Thats all the Nazgul, Viper, Venom and Aegis hippies. Oh, and the NHC. Oh.. and me Then I think we should actually look at whats going wrong. And not Riel saying to Japheth "Hmm, whats going wrong?". I think we should ask the members what is going wrong.. arturus, Lonewolf, JMac, Chaos, MegaDeath etc etc. There is a fine line between offering input and complaining needlessly. Obviously, I have crossed it (and thats an understatement). I think a lot of us have crossed it.. I think thats one of the reasons we saw command changes on Sunday. I'd say we make a topic on the comnet where CoC's do not apply, but they should be followed (so nobody says things like "Break the CoC one more time and you're out of here"), and tell everyone to give their input on what needs to change. Then, read it all. Every single one of us should read it. There will probably be something about LW, DH and me on it.. things we need to change about ourselves. And then.. perhaps work on what everyone says needs to be changed. See how it turns out, yes? Darkhawk, I have not you apologise for what you said about not putting newbies in Aegis.. or whatever it was you apologised about. I shall assume that you have, and apologise myself for not having seen it, and having ranted on and on like I did yesterday. I would also like to apologise to the rest of the Navy for certain acts of sheer stupidity which I have been the cause of. I know that several people have done pretty stupid things, but as stupid things go, mine were.. pretty stupid. They were pretty stupid pretty stupid things. Still with me? I'd also ask forgiveness from the people who put their time and effort into this Navy - Riel, Darkhawk, Kain, and, of course, all the members. I've put my time and effort into it, and I have no right to trample on your work when you're obviously working as hard as is possible. Heres a little smiley to cheer us all up..
 
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Darkhawk
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  RE: Aegis needs pilots
March 19, 2002 9:37:38 PM    View the profile of Darkhawk 
Well said, Bear. I know that I have been acting a bit childish lately, too. I think I let my problems in real life affect my attitude toward the Vast Empire, and I'm sorry. It's apparent (at least to me) from reading my posts from the past month that I haven't been myself. I totally agree that it is best for the NHC to make its decisions and suggestions in private and let only members debate things out on the ComNet. And I am 100% behind enforcing the CoC on all posts. Which means showing respect to your superiors, equals, and inferiors. I know I have been out of line lately - especially toward Bear and Arturus - and also have made some biased comments lately. But I'm going to try and keep my outside feeling away from VEN business. All of the squadrons need to work together, not against one another. I'm eagerly awaiting Riel's return and I look foward to working with Japheth in the coming weeks. Thank you all, sorry for being a @$$, blah, blah, blah. Now, a round of drinks for us all, on me.
 
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  RE: Aegis needs pilots
March 24, 2002 1:21:55 AM    View the profile of Lord_Devi 
Hrmm.. Were to begin. Well I'll be honest, i wasn't expecting political... red tap and beuarocracy like this when I first signed up to VE and found this particular post to be rather shocking. So what I'll do is ignore that bantering as I really have no idea what it's about anyway. However I will address that "Suggestions part". I'm not making a suggestion, merely asserting a view from an unbiased and completely neutral new comer. I do personally think that if Aegis is an "Elite" squad, newcomers like me really shouldn't be dropped into it like that. However, there always are extenuating circumstances, it loses some presitge with that tact, however if the other option is it's demise.. than perhaps it's not entirely unreasonable. If a pilot proves to be a worthy combatant, keep them in Aegis I think, if not, transfer them. I was pleased to find out myself that I was put into Aegis... and I can tell you that I am anxious to prove to all of you that I deserve the placement, and will do my best to earn the position and follow in the steps of it's previous wingmen. Unfortunatly, as I've mentioned to some people outside of the boards, my HD has died and I can only really use linux realibly.. as such XWA is unaccessable to me at the moment, and I don't know how long it's going to stay like that(could be a month god****it.) but no more than that for sure. I look forward to serving with fine pilots like Lonewolf, and most importantly i look forward to teaching the ribils why Imperials are the most feared pilots in the galaxy, Han Solo had nothing on a rookie from the Imperial acadamies ; ) Lasers at Full, and Engines at 33% lads, then blast those red coated, yellow goggle wearin buggers into undeserving blessfull oblivion!
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  RE: Aegis needs pilots
March 24, 2002 2:37:45 PM    View the profile of Darkhawk 
Welcome aboard.
 
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