I was wondering, Do the VEEC have a certain ID line or is it the same as the one like the VE today. I was just going through the VEEC comnet and started wondering about that. It's not anything big just a question I found myself wondering and now asking. Anyway if anyone could let me know about this that actually knows what they are talking about that would really be great.

I actually got to thinking about that right after that post. I was wondering if we could change the structure of it. Although I don't know how exactly. I think it would be cool to have different ID's for the different sectors of VEEC and then a formal and official ID for the VEEC itself. I also kind of think it would be cool to have some graphics for the different sectors. On another note does the VE Today have a wiki page? It would be cool to start one if not. We could post active members with their profiles and their ranks and stuff. Maybe even add a section where they could post links to their articles for an archiving effect or something. It would be something I would do too.

Tal approved the VET... restructuring a while back, so I think we can go ahead on that Cosmic

Not yet released to publics

Not entirely what I meant (didn't make myself clear).

The VET was already restructured (new rank system basically) with the help of Kadann.

However, activity was always a problem. People weren't even able to maintain a 1-article/week standard.

There's another proposal going through that will hopefully change the way things work (in terms of article writing). That proposal would include the termination of the VE Today.

So why not just pay by the article?

That way, nobody is on the roster, but if people want they can get an article published and make a quick 1000 IC's if they want? 

In my opinion the same type of thing should happen in the VEEC.  The projects should be open to the public. 

A purchaser should come up with some kind of project.  Let's say a graphic for a burger joint.  Bids get made on that project.  The person that requested the project should have the ability to say, I want this person to do it for me (just like any other company would do) and that person either delivers or not.  If that person fails to deliver then they get fired and the person goes to someone else for his burger graphic? 

If the project is for something that the VE wants (let's say a new flash intro (MAJOR HUGE [insert colorful metaphor here] HINT ON WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE!!!!) then Kadann or Talon or whoever has to come up with some criteria and contract out to a person that is going to do the job.  Once the contract has been awarded, then the negotiations on what is needed can become secret, but at least give everyone a chance to work on a project.  You may find that the VEEC won't scratch someones itch, but publishing some random project may spark some random interest in a person.

This has the added benefit of not having people on the pay roll that are not contributing.  Accountability must be maintained in order for the VEEC to work.

In this system you would only have a board of directors that would collect a regular salary.

A COO, (Chief Operations Officer) to make sure that the facilities are maintained and that people are given the area to work in that they require.  This means that if a person needs 2 megs of webspace, the COO will be able to help them find that.  Will have the added benefit of having to maintain the forums as well.

A CFO (Chief Financial Officer).  This person is there to make sure that the VEEC gets their cut of the profits based on the services/infrastructure that the VEEC as an organization provides.  This person will be there to make sure that reporters in the VET get paid.  The people that will be hosting radio shows (read podcasts) get paid etc.  This person may also be the party responsible for collecting payment on goods delivered. 

A CLO (Chief Legal Officer).  This person is responsible for the negotiations between parties.  To make sure that a contract that states what kind of payment would be made for exactly what kind of service. 

VE members would still be able to work on the side if they want, but then there will be absolutely no help/or official stance by the VE if a deal goes bad.

It would probably be safe to then consider the VEEC to be a Union of workers, and not an engineering firm.  It exists to make sure that both parties (the customer and the producer) are treated fairly.

I'm sure that this is all circumstantial, and will have absolutely no bearing on any decision on what is done in the VEEC.  But, seeing as how I'm not happy with the things currently are, I've decided to throw my 2 cents in and give a plan on how things might be made better.

As long as this process remains open and fair, I don't care what you do.  But, if you want people to participate in this subgroup of the VE, you need to stop keeping secrets.  Secrets only attract the power hungry.  Transparency will help you accomplish something with the least amount of hassle.

I've always liked the VEEC thats why I joined . By the way Kipper Riq's right we already have a ranking structure and thats how we get paid (even if it might be changed soon.) If it was open to the public in my opinion then anybody without any creativity or writing experience could wright. The VET needs fairly good writers to keep people interested in the articles. If people are bored in our articles then they won't care about the VET which overtime will just kill it. Thats my opinion though. By having people seek us out and then joining you know they want to at least try to write those articles and will give their best, they won't just be doing it for the money. They will be doing it for the writing and maybe for the money too . Again just my opinion.