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Mandor
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  RE: Arc Unit
January 13, 2004 10:21:38 AM    View the profile of Mandor 
Hey all. I thought it would be really cool do have a super elite unit of 6 men chosen by High Council and Prefect of the Army. The men would be ones who have shown the most skill in battle and have the most activity. It would be the "Arc" unit but the name could be changed if you all saw fit. i have a patch in design. That would be the sign of an Arc trooper just a patch.

the unit would consist of

1) Elite pistole user
1) Elite Sniper
1) Elite "heavy weapon" user [ rockets, ewebs]
3) Elite E-11 storm troopers

I just thought it would be cool.
 
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  RE: Arc Unit
January 13, 2004 12:39:17 AM    View the profile of Rizzit 
Wouldn't that be something like the elite squad that we're SUPPOSED to have?
 
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  RE: Arc Unit
January 13, 2004 1:13:16 PM    View the profile of Mandor 
Well i know were all elite and all that, but im talking mythical type good. Like the kinda good that people tell their children about. The kinda troopers that just having the other soldiers see them can raise their moral so high to make them belive the battle is won. So i know we are good, but it would just be cool to have those 6 "god like" characters.
 
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  RE: Arc Unit
January 13, 2004 2:15:44 PM    View the profile of TK-112 
"Prefect's Guards" maybe...

A group of elite handpicked troops serving in his/her current squad and the Guard.

???
 
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  RE: Arc Unit
January 13, 2004 2:25:01 PM    View the profile of FlyingKnight 
That really does sound cool I can picture it.
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  RE: Arc Unit
January 13, 2004 2:41:46 PM    View the profile of Rema 
God-Like soldiers? Like the Mandalorians perhaps? While the idea is interesting i believe a more "realistic" view of how we do things would be better off. Perhaps for the next competition, the winner will be given the "Elite" status. That would give us our "super-soldier" kind of squad.
 
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  RE: Arc Unit
January 13, 2004 2:42:01 PM    View the profile of TK-112 
*farts in the picture*
 
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  RE: Arc Unit
January 13, 2004 3:05:12 PM    View the profile of Cosmic 
I have a couple statements and questions of my own.

First off, I'm just wondering what the "Arc" means?

Second, I don't know about having "god-like" troopers. I could see the possibility of having something like the Prefect's Guard or something similar to that. We do have the Iron Horse squad which was elite, but as we have it right now (if nothing has changed) no squad is currently having the Elite title.

The idea is certainly interesting, but I don't even know if we have enough active people to take on those roles. :P
 
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  RE: Arc Unit
January 13, 2004 3:23:40 PM    View the profile of Mandor 
Right. The Arc doesnt have any signifigant meaning, thats why i said it would be up to the high council and the Prefect to decide what they want to name it. It wouldnt be a "squad" all the members would remain in their own squad, but certain sensitive missions would be given to this "Elite" group. And certainly it wouldnt be "GOD LIKE" i was just using that as a description to give you an image. It would kind of be similar to the Rainbow 6 squad. They are the best of the best all that, but they still work for their own squads.
 
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  RE: Arc Unit
January 13, 2004 10:45:57 PM    View the profile of Hashi Shiyun 
ARC stands for Advanced Recon Commandos, an elite unit of the Kaminoan clone troopers. More details about em here.

Anways, I do find the idea of an elite unit interesting, but right now we're so small that taking away active members from the normal squads to fill up an "elite" squad can be harmful to the the activity level of those normal squads oO'

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  RE: Arc Unit
January 13, 2004 10:56:28 PM    View the profile of Cosmic 
Unless a few of you guys started on a regular basis. If thats the case, you would be placed on the Recruiting Staff and be earning yourself an extra 7k a month.
 
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  RE: Arc Unit
January 13, 2004 11:04:18 PM    View the profile of Hashi Shiyun 
"Perhaps for the next competition, the winner will be given the "Elite" status."

I think that's a good idea. Perhaps the winning squad of the next ESC/HSC can have a honourary title like Prefect's Honor Guard or something sexier. They get to keep that title until the next ESC, where they have to defend that title or give it up if they fail.
 
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  RE: Arc Unit
January 14, 2004 12:03:19 AM    View the profile of Fury 
That actually was an idea pondered by us when planning this latest competition.  Unfortunately, activity was so low overall that we couldn't honestly grant a whole squad elite status when no squad had its entire membership participate.

To be sure, certain individuals did perform very well and they have been singled out because of it.

As for an ARC status, I'm still not sure what to think of it.  I'll get back to you.
 
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  RE: Arc Unit
January 14, 2004 2:54:35 AM    View the profile of Raziel 
"Unfortunately, activity was so low overall that we couldn't honestly grant a whole squad elite status when no squad had its entire membership participate.

To be sure, certain individuals did perform very well and they have been singled out because of it."



I think what you just said Fury makes a case for his idea of picking out individuals and letting them stay in their squad. The rewards being to get to do some special missions.

Although someone would have to work quite hard to give this group of people things to do and it would take up some of their time and poossibly lower activity as a whole.
Then again if you only picked the very very most active 5-6 then it would probably work

btw i think Mandor did specify that they would stay in those squads for those of you arguing against moving people around.
 
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  RE: Arc Unit
January 14, 2004 6:53:18 AM    View the profile of Rema 
If thats the case, you would be placed on the Recruiting Staff and be earning yourself an extra 7k a month.

oO? I thought it was 7.5k?

/me shrugs

I like it no matter what.

 
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  RE: Arc Unit
January 14, 2004 8:32:57 AM    View the profile of Mandor 
Ya i understand what all of you are saying. I got the idea from the clone wars cartooon micro series. Yes they would stay in their own squad. They would just be called up for about 3 days to do a special mission whereupon on the finish of that mission they would return to normal activity with their primary squad. Im glad you all are taking interest, im trying my hardest to boost activity, so if these "elite" soldiers where created all the members on VE would strive to get that. Maybe a bonus in pay or special new weapons would be given to them. just a thought.
 
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  RE: Arc Unit
January 14, 2004 9:39:43 AM    View the profile of Fury 
Actually, that could be fun as I have a tiny list of items that need accomplished in fairly short spurts.

I'm kind of warming up to this.
 
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  RE: Arc Unit
January 14, 2004 10:33:15 AM    View the profile of Mandor 
Wonderful. I honestly dont care if im in ARC. I just want something out there that everyone strives for so activity will jump. Im just happy i had an idea to possibly spark activity.
 
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  RE: Arc Unit
January 14, 2004 11:36:02 AM    View the profile of Rema 
Dont we have Elite Trooper and SL's mentioned somewhere? I thought i saw it on the payscale area in the roster.
 
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  RE: Arc Unit
January 14, 2004 12:56:43 AM    View the profile of Mandor 
I didnt see it anywhere. But back to the topic if the highcouncil and Prefect see it fit i will send the rough draft of the patch to whoever needs it so it can be takin under review.
 
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  RE: Arc Unit
January 14, 2004 1:29:26 PM    View the profile of Afyon 
Ilike the idea of picking a select few from the squads and making an elite unit while also keeping these ppl in their squads.  Might give an incentive for others to work to get into the squad.  An idea might be to have some sort of proving ground competition every 4 months in which they have to fight to keep their spots against a field of those wanting to get in.

Just a thought...might work and it might be fun and help activity....who knows...i doubt it can hurt much.
 
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  RE: Arc Unit
January 14, 2004 1:41:26 PM    View the profile of TK-112 
Four months is too long... maybe every month to keep up the competition level....
 
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  RE: Arc Unit
January 14, 2004 1:59:40 PM    View the profile of Afyon 
sure something like that, 1 month, 6 weeks, 2 months. Somewhere in there.  Need enough time to write a good story.
 
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  RE: Arc Unit
January 14, 2004 2:29:08 PM    View the profile of Mandor 
So as far as im reading its a go with the whole deal? well if thats the case the patch will be done either tommarow or the day after so you can tell me how you want it refined. Just a sugestion, when the people are in they get the patch and you should give it a name for the ID tag like [ARC] and when they lose their spot they have to take it out.
 
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  RE: Arc Unit
January 14, 2004 3:22:50 PM    View the profile of Rema 
His holyness...err Fury hasnt spoken yet. But i do think that this could be a good thing for activity. To bad i didnt think of it.....
 
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  RE: Arc Unit
January 14, 2004 3:29:25 PM    View the profile of Mandor 
  <---- thats me <----- thats me laughing at rema from behind my helmet
 
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  RE: Arc Unit
January 14, 2004 5:47:30 PM    View the profile of Cosmic 
Nothing is official.

Now, as far as the short spurt missions go, I think that's an interesting idea. Have a mission that hasa small, but challenging amount of objectives, and have the story done in a week. If not, the mission has failed. It'd be nice to see that happen because then the ARC unit would have an actual timeframe to work with, and a deadline to complete their mission.
 
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  RE: Arc Unit
January 14, 2004 7:58:06 PM    View the profile of Rema 
Ya that sounds good Cos. Seems like it would be fun.


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  RE: Arc Unit
January 15, 2004 12:32:29 AM    View the profile of Mandor 
Well good news. I have finished the patch and will be emailing it to Fury in about 10 seconds. Well i hope he likes it.
 
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  RE: Arc Unit
January 15, 2004 1:55:11 PM    View the profile of Rema 
Perhaps the kind Prefect could post it somehow so all could see?
 
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