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  Knights of the Vast Empire
April 7, 2008 4:30:17 PM    View the profile of TX-47 
We need Dark Jedi!  I'm developing a story arc for the StoryNet and would like to have 1-3 Dark Jedi PCs in the group which is thus far mainly Stormtroopers.

Policy of Secrecy will be strictly enforced, as per Kadann's orders.  The DJO is aware of other Force-users out there; some work for our enemies.

Please respond by 10 AM thursday if you are interested.

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April 7, 2008 4:50:42 PM    View the profile of Alater 
I'mma go ahead and say this probably won't fly.
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  RE: knights of the Vast Empire
April 7, 2008 5:46:52 PM    View the profile of Decembrist 
Posting about Jedi, the Force, and everything related is strictly prohibited outside the DJO.
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April 7, 2008 6:58:34 PM    View the profile of Kami 
Won't happen TX, sorry
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April 7, 2008 7:11:07 PM    View the profile of Alater 
/me sighs and brings out the Nub Beater

He's in my squad, I'll do the honors.
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April 7, 2008 8:25:43 PM    View the profile of Cosmic 
I'm on the Dark Council, so I'm hoping my voice holds a little weight:

Essentially, any Force/Jedi (Dark/Light) related writings is authorized only for those who are in the Dark Jedi Order (and they must stay within the DJO's private boards).

There was only one DJO story that was released to the public, and that was the first 25 pages or so of Talon's Dark Jedi Master journey. There has not been another public viewing since then.

If you want to make "rebuttal argument" or petition, that's fine, but the person to bring that to would be Kadann, as he has the last word on these things.

(Even those who are in the Order do not post/write about their Force sensitivity or draw their lightsabers out in the open)
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  RE: knights of the Vast Empire
April 7, 2008 9:15:06 PM    View the profile of Dante 
the DJO is very secretive, and they tend to keep their lightsabers to themselves

Still, the DJO posted in the StoryNet for the last chapter, so you might want to check that out...
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  RE: knights of the Vast Empire
April 7, 2008 9:26:47 PM    View the profile of specter1000 
I understand not letting people know or talk about the DJ but do you have to do private boards? I for one would like to read the stories of them for personal interest and fun. I mean is there real reason to hide the fourms away and not let anyone read them.....besides I hear they are very well thought out and there is a lot of work put into them to keep them hidden away.
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April 7, 2008 11:06:09 PM    View the profile of Gimp 
Spec, I'm not (obviously) in the DJO but I bet I know why they keep their stuff hidden.

They are the cool kids.

Think back to your high school days, if you are past those days, and recall the cool kids. They all hung out together in their own segregated area and did things that everyone else wanted to be a part of. But only the cool kids got to.

Fast forward to life in the VE and very little has changed. Cool kids are still segregated and doing stuff the rest of the populace wants to do, but here, cool kids write collaborative stories on the internet.

For only being one difference, it's a pretty drastic one.

EDIT

I forgot, I have a question for you TX.

I have seen you in here reviving the old thread about Lightsaber colors. That combined with how many posts you've amassed leads me to believe you've read a few of these DJO threads. I've also seen many folks talk to you about your persistent lust for Jedi avatars.

So with all that in mind my question is this: What the hell made you think this pig was gonna fly?
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April 7, 2008 11:21:08 PM    View the profile of Anden Beliam 
I am not sure for all the reasons as to why the DJO boards are kept private, and I feel the same as Specter does and would LOVE to read the stories of the VE DJO.

However- at the same time I understand that we don't always get everything we want to have.
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April 8, 2008 1:09:32 AM    View the profile of Ken Alibek 
A friend told me they use something called the force, but then a policeman heard us and we got to watch some fun movies... for forty-eight straight hours...
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April 8, 2008 1:41:18 PM    View the profile of Cosmic 
In my own personal opinion, the DJO boards were kept hidden for one primary reason: to have something to look forward to - something to work for/towards.

This strategy worked well several years ago when activity was at its peak - people posted like mad, and those that were chosen by the Order got to read the works from the VE's superior writers. It's different nowadays because things have changed, although I believe the DJO boards are still kept hidden for that same reason.
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April 8, 2008 1:47:51 PM    View the profile of Alater 
Always was an incentive to me.
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April 8, 2008 2:56:31 PM    View the profile of TX-47 
So DJO & Grunts can't play together?  Even if the rare situation in which the DJO member uses the Force or a lightsaber there are no witnesses [or none left alive] it's a no-no?



Can't even have Jedi kills a Dark Jedi [not DJO's] only to have the platoon C.O. stab the Jedi in the back with a vibroblade?

If the StoryNet is not Official VE Continuity, then why does it matter?
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April 8, 2008 3:31:48 PM    View the profile of Aeos 
Heh, I'm not bothered with the DJO crap really.
I dont like popularity cliques anyhowz:P

My main concern here is, from the PM you've sent me earlier, you need to have Kadann, Fury, Tal and prolly Japheth okay it, because its not in our hands to work so directly with the plot.

Anything concerning the Force is handled by the DJO.
Whether its a light Jedi that stumbles upon the VE or a Dark Jedi looking for trouble. The DJO Intel works with it and sends out for someone to dispose of it before any Imperials stumble on these characters.

Well, correct me if I'm wrong.
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April 8, 2008 5:08:11 PM    View the profile of Dante 
And what of "Down in Utapau"?
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April 8, 2008 6:22:55 PM    View the profile of Garryll Gates 
I'm fine with the grunts and I'll stay there even if I amass 2000 posts (unlikely in this life) and my writing if fabulous. I mean, cum'mon, who wants to play with the guys whose forum is so incredibly secretive and stuff?
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April 8, 2008 6:35:36 PM    View the profile of Aeos 
what about it dante?
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April 8, 2008 7:32:48 PM    View the profile of Dante 
EDIT: MY memory tricked me. Still, I clearly remember a squad story with a Jedi, and a lightsaber duel. I'd better go find it...
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April 8, 2008 8:10:09 PM    View the profile of Aeos 
It would most likely be a raider mission it think, and its most likely to have happened beforE DJO members were not allowed to use it in the army or navy.
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April 8, 2008 8:25:20 PM    View the profile of Decembrist 
How the hell do you know about Down in Utapau? Geez man, go outside once in a while.

At any rate... what's final is final: no Jedi/Force outside of the DJO. Let's drop it, kthx.
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April 8, 2008 8:29:09 PM    View the profile of Jegora Fal 
I hate to go and spark a big argument, but I have to put in my two cents here.

I understand about the secrecy policy, and I completely agree with it. You'll get no argument from me there.

However, the side of me that has to be fair also needs to speak, unfortunately. If the storyboard is considered un-offical, then theoretically he could write about whatever he wants to there. It just wouldn't count for anything, or towards anything.

Thats what I think, anyways. Someone more important than I am may correct me, but again...my conscious was bugging me.
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April 8, 2008 8:52:42 PM    View the profile of Dante 
I was flicking through the old stories/last chapter. Standards really have changed, haven't they?

The problem is, I have a feeling TX's story is going to be at least ambiguously canon so there is going to be a problem...Guess that idea's gone down in flames.

You know all this talk about Utapau has got me thinking. Utapau is a sinkhole planet with vast deserts. RAIDERS specializes in varied terrain. Why not have a RAIDERS mission on Utapau and call it "Up in Utapau" to dispel any notions that this is a repeat of the DD mission?
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April 8, 2008 9:18:52 PM    View the profile of Tanus Solvona 
I truly think that is the most idiotic notion I've ever heard in my life.
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April 8, 2008 9:46:31 PM    View the profile of Dante 
You have all of the sense of humor of a battle droid, Tanus.

P.S. http://comnet.imperialnetwork.com/topic/3949/page/1/
Look at Vox's last post.
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April 8, 2008 11:54:07 PM    View the profile of Kairo 
For the secrecy part, I was never a big fan about it, but not for the same reasons as most of you have which is the viewpoint of a middle-high school student who feels left out of the "cool" clique. Really though, if you want to see what's on the boards, work hard, get a lot better at writing, and you'll eventually get into it... probably. I agree with Cosmic as it being a thing to look forward to if you want to get in, and if you don't want to even join, then stop being a little nancy and complaining about something you don't even care about.

If your main reason for wanting to see it is to read some good Force material, go read the books. There is plenty out their by really good authors to satisfy any person. Authors that aren't just SW fans that happen to write really well.

As for writing on the storyboard, here is my bit.
I) If it is with completely made up characters that are not your VE characters in a totally different non-VE-Canon universe, go ahead and write it. Knock yourself out. Who cares? It doesn't relate to anything and won't impede anything. It will probably just be ignored by those that aren't participating in it. No offense meant by that. People just don't tend to read every random storynet story.

II) If it is with VE characters, then it gets really tricky. From my point of view, a storynet story with your VE character is considered part of what your character has done in the VE universe. So if a DJO member randomly goes and does something and stumbles upon a situation that needs the Force, it would be considered part of what his character did in the VE-canon. Thus, it would have to be approved by Kadann, Talon, and the rest of the DJO HC. In the end, it probably won't happen.

III) If you want to make the complete distinction that this is just a possible story in another alternate universe where it does involve the VE character name and traits but doesn't have anything to do with what your "real" character is doing, than again, I'd say sure, whatever. Though I don't have the final word in any sorts. But most DJO members are probably not going to take the time to bother writing on such a story due to their other duties, busy lives, and actual VE-canon DJO stories they are working on.

This is all just my thoughts on this. But really, there is no one stopping you making up a completely random alternate universe with made up characters that are Force sensitive and go and fight a climatic Force battle with some other made up person and posting it on the storynet, as long as you make it completely obvious you just wrote it for fun and it is entirely non-VE-canon. I may be wrong about this, but I'm sure I've ran across a few stories like this. They are all horrible and badly written, but they are there.

Now, I have spent far too much time writing this. If I offended anyone, oh well. I didn't mean to do it.

/me mind wipes himself, so he doesn't have to remember reading this topic...
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April 9, 2008 12:37:18 AM    View the profile of Dante 
Wow...this topic is attracting an incredible amount of attention. Hopefully Kairo's post will be the final word on this kind of thing.
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April 9, 2008 2:23:59 PM    View the profile of Otto Vox 
I knew someone was going to bring up one of my old posts. And Dante, you've been here way too short of a time to know about that story. You need to get out more.

Anyway, in response to it. That was FOUR years ago. The policy was a little different at that time, only those that were members of the DJO could post about their Force powers. I was even pushing the line a little bit there, and in the future was asked to stop posting about Force powers in regular squad stories. So obviously the policy has changed since then. I have not posted about my Force powers in any other forum than the DJO forums in years.
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April 11, 2008 2:44:12 PM    View the profile of Ibram Tyrol 
Damn, i always miss the really cool debates. Not even worth throwing my pence in now
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Once I get the DJO's decision I'll make a final post here with regard to the stories.  With the issue settled this thread will be closed at that time.

This wasn't the response I was looking for, but it has been enlightening.
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