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Raigen
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  RE: Shatting Fate: General Wing Discussion
May 4, 2006 3:17:48 PM    View the profile of Raigen 
I have a request. I'd like my astromech R3K3, my dark eye probe droid, or my prowler 1000 on board the bomber if possible......and are we asigned to the coruscant now instead of the atrus

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  RE: Shatting Fate: General Wing Discussion
May 4, 2006 4:29:52 PM    View the profile of Shazam 
*Inhales sharply*

Might as well make an explanation for my exhaustion with that idea...  Simply put, most imperials hate droids or atleast ones that have any kind of outside function and can roll around on wheels   You'll notice that basically every TIE isn't compatible with droids if it can help it.  Their only purpose it to help bring ships back to order.  The prejudice against droids is somewhat similar to the one they have against alien species- of course, the VEN is an exception.  We rely on the abilities and aptitudes of pilots from all over the galaxy and of various races so we can have that one up- we aren't exactly 'The Empire.'  We are, after all, just a faction.  However, the group shows some significant prejudices still, so you'd have a bit of trouble getting the techs to side with you- that is, allowing you to put a droid on board.  Besides their contempt for droids- it's just not practical.  Are you going to strap an R2 and Prowler 1000 in the cramped compartment of a bomber when you are under intense fire?  If those things come loose, to say the least- you're going to have some problems

So my answer- No, unless you have an extremely good reason.  Let me know that reason and make sure it bypasses the ligitmate ones I've set before you. 

Now, the reason our pilots fly solo is because most of our equipment that is usually covered by an R2 is built into the ship.  For instance, the transparisteel of a TIE's cockpit darkens when their is an explosion to sheild the light from the blast.  Yes, we have our own lenses to protect us from similar things, but they are mostly an auxillary function in case there is a malfunction or you choose to switch off the light dampener device...  Or, for a more specific reasoning behind not needing an R2 Unit- most of the information that it will be relaying to you or anyone else can and will be done by your craft or the support craft you are assigned to.  You have an onboard computer that can do minor task like following com conversations and recording them as well as converting power to sensors for long range capabilities...  Peripheal systems really, but they can be useful. 

Now, those are just reasons why we don't have them, but the main reason is- they aren't meant for long term service.  TIEs were actually created in mind of the fact that they would probably be destroyed soon enough, so they were created as cheaply as possible.  That's why they normally don't have sheilds and practically never hyperdrives (with the exception of Vader, of course.)  The VEN has been fortunate enough to make sheilding a constant in all their craft, so anything we'll be flying is shielded. 

Anyways- there's my ramble on random information for ya   Hope that was significant.
 
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  RE: Shatting Fate: General Wing Discussion
May 5, 2006 9:26:12 AM    View the profile of templar 
Actualy that was significant. That wasn't even aimed at me but it answers a few questions of mind. And by the way the only one that had a prejudice against Aliens was the Empror, and he's dead. This is the Thrawn era, so by now the Emperors been dead for about 10 years.
 
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  RE: Shatting Fate: General Wing Discussion
May 5, 2006 10:53:17 AM    View the profile of Raigen 
what about the lttle bitty dark eye probe droid?
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  RE: Shatting Fate: General Wing Discussion
May 5, 2006 9:05:34 PM    View the profile of LoneWolf 
True the Emperor was one of the main causes behind the prejudices however many hardcore imperials have fallowed in that example of xenophobia.
 
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  RE: Shatting Fate: General Wing Discussion
May 6, 2006 12:01:40 AM    View the profile of Shazam 
The VEN is still Imperial for the most part- we picked up most of their customs
 
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  RE: Shatting Fate: General Wing Discussion
May 8, 2006 3:39:43 PM    View the profile of Raigen 
There were droids aboard the death star. And just one thing






PROBOTS answer that!!!
 
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  RE: Shatting Fate: General Wing Discussion
May 8, 2006 5:40:55 PM    View the profile of Shazam 
MMmkay- as far as I know, people don't use probe droids as personal companions   My word stands- no droids. 
 
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  RE: Shatting Fate: General Wing Discussion
May 8, 2006 6:07:31 PM    View the profile of Zharyn 
"We don't serve their kind in here!"
 
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  RE: Shatting Fate: General Wing Discussion
May 9, 2006 3:05:27 PM    View the profile of Raigen 
Ok, here is the deal:

dredj goes to my school. We are both in ROTC and use the same computers. He left his name signed on and I mistakenly thought it was my name that was signed in. I went to post on the shattering fate board and my post was posted under dredj's name. Is there anyway I can have the post switched to my name?
 
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  RE: Shatting Fate: General Wing Discussion
May 9, 2006 4:02:37 PM    View the profile of Japheth 
No, you can repost it with your account and we, the moderators, can delete the other post, but there is no way to switch who posted a post.
 
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  RE: Shatting Fate: General Wing Discussion
May 9, 2006 5:00:25 PM    View the profile of Shazam 
I was wonderin bout that- I was like: you have two accounts?  Uh...  Can't do that...

But yea- let us know what you want to be ridded and we'll fix it up for ya. 
 
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  RE: Shatting Fate: General Wing Discussion
May 10, 2006 10:28:29 AM    View the profile of Demonic 
Demonic has no hate for droids, because he wasn't raised imperial, having joined the empire after living his life with droids.
 
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  RE: Shatting Fate: General Wing Discussion
May 10, 2006 10:46:02 AM    View the profile of Raigen 
My charicter likes droids because he was stuck with some r3's and got used to them. plus battle droids have saved his life countless times. which is why he owns 30!
 
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  RE: Shatting Fate: General Wing Discussion
May 10, 2006 4:27:11 PM    View the profile of Shazam 
Does your character belong to a wealthy family?  Anywho- despite indivual difference, just the Empire as a community as well as it's constituents frown upon working with droids in a personal manner.  Even the rebellion has it's reaches- Luke Skywalker was an exception- he liked to let R2-D2 fiddle with his craft and the information he obtained from battles was not deleted afterword, thus, the craft was fully integrated into the unit.  Which is really another reason why we don't use droids, particularly ones that can control so much- the ships can become dependent on them and only with those droid's clearence can the ship be accessed.  What happens if they're destroyed?  A lot of trouble.  That's just history- no need to argue with it, just lettin ya know.  Aiight- lets see some post from eveyone, I beleive we'll post the next stage now.  Rock on.
 
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  RE: Shatting Fate: General Wing Discussion
May 11, 2006 10:56:59 AM    View the profile of Raigen 
.....well,  have 30 droids because my charrie bought them with his salary and they are antiques so. anyway, he needs them for security(ull figure that out later)
 
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  RE: Shatting Fate: General Wing Discussion
May 11, 2006 8:09:02 PM    View the profile of Zharyn 
I understand where you're coming from, Raigen, but Shazam said no, so well... I guess you can't.  Besides, none of us have them, and we seem to get by fine :P
 
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  RE: Shatting Fate: General Wing Discussion
May 13, 2006 7:15:41 PM    View the profile of Willtconq 
a couple of points. according to the info site provided my art, Agressors and Scimitars are 105 and 95mglt; the three different classes of enemy fighters are all around 100mglt.

You guys need to know what you guys are writing about. From what i can see, many of you don't even know what one can or can't do in a Tie. Ties only have forward and top viewports. Nazguls, you guys should use your advantage of rear auto guns more often. Kaphs, besides the fact that we need to post much more than we are, you guys need to put the fact that we're the fastest object in battle. We have more than twice the transport's speeds, utilize it.

As for the overall battlefield, when did the Kaph vs. Preybirds get into the same battle as Nazgul/Aegis vs. the new arrivals? the two separate battles are completely on two different sides of the transports.

there are also a few points that i'm not going to bother cause they don't really make a difference to the story.

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  RE: Shatting Fate: General Wing Discussion
May 13, 2006 9:50:07 PM    View the profile of Jaden 
This is what is really starting to get on my nerves.  All of this detail with the fighters and where the hell everything is in the battle.  When Shazam and I joined the vast empire, I joined about a few years after he did, we just wrote what we wanted about how we flew, and no one really cared.

Just let some people do what they want, and if you are going to critisize them, make sure that it isn't offensive, because the things you are saying will, offend me greatly.  I write what I want to write, and if it is wrong, don't tell me.  If it is really bad though, tell me, but the things you are saying don't really affect anyone in the story.

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  RE: Shatting Fate: General Wing Discussion
May 13, 2006 10:42:59 PM    View the profile of Shazam 
Good point- thus I don't shut things down when someone misinterprets something or says things are a little off.  However, I see where Will is coming from and thus-

Order of Events: (Slash Maps...)

*See Willtconq's post for links to the pics*

(Take them and zoom in on them some how- then you'll get it   Not working quite right for some reason.  Anyways, that last one I gotta post yet...  Probably tomarrow...)

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  RE: Shatting Fate: General Wing Discussion
May 13, 2006 10:56:30 PM    View the profile of Willtconq 
shaz, they're not gonna work. the resolution's too low to see anything. try uploading them to the info site on freewebs with the original resolution.

I uploaded the original pics onto the kaph site with the original resolutions. Now you can actually see the words writen on them.

Before the battle, original formation.
Before the battle, with enemy formations.
So far, during the battle.

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  RE: Shatting Fate: General Wing Discussion
May 14, 2006 12:19:36 AM    View the profile of Jaden 
Just save the image to your computer, and look at them through paint.  You can crop the image so that it is bigger, and then everything is seen.

Thanks for the maps shaz.
 
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  RE: Shatting Fate: General Wing Discussion
May 15, 2006 10:56:49 AM    View the profile of Raigen 
Yes, i understand the viepoint thing. now, let's change the subject!
 
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  RE: Shatting Fate: General Wing Discussion
May 15, 2006 3:41:46 PM    View the profile of Jaden 
It seems as the only Nazgul's that are posting are me, Dar, and Shaz.  Art, you haven't been posting, and gunnay won't be posting until after the mission is done.

What happened to all of the activity?
 
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May 15, 2006 4:26:54 PM    View the profile of Shazam 
Hmm- Time we got the squadron straightened out, eh?  Although Art is pretty busy, we'll see about Trevor and Gunnay.  Rock On.
 
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  RE: Shatting Fate: General Wing Discussion
May 15, 2006 5:20:20 PM    View the profile of Willtconq 
many of us are having finals these weeks, things should get back into the swing once we're in mid June.
 
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  RE: Shatting Fate: General Wing Discussion
May 15, 2006 8:21:48 PM    View the profile of Darius 
Comment on one problem we might have here.  I was looking around the the force.net's encyclopedia thing, and it says that the TIE Scimitar requires two men to pilot.  I know it's a little late now, but I thought you'd like to know.  (it also mentioned it handling light a TIE interceptor too.)
 
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  RE: Shatting Fate: General Wing Discussion
May 15, 2006 8:37:12 PM    View the profile of Willtconq 
aha, finally someone brings it up. Scimitars have a bombardeer in the back, and a pilot in the front. but i thought someone mentioned that those Scimitars could have been, doesn't mean it has to be, modified so it wouldn't require a second personel. I'm not sure what you meant by the Int. line. Did you mean that it handles like an Int?

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  RE: Shatting Fate: General Wing Discussion
May 15, 2006 9:44:47 PM    View the profile of Darius 
I'll just quote what it says:

"one of the first new starfighters commissioned by Grand Admiral Thrawn, the Scimitar was developed by Captain Tomax Bren. It had the maneuverability of the TIE Interceptor or the X-Wing, the armament of a TIE bomber, and the ability to fly in an atmosphere. It was a dedicated bomber designed with the help of the Scimitar Assault Wing, from which it obtained its name. It had a long, central tube for a hull, and was the first TIE-like craft to be a two-man ship. The pilot and bomber sat in the forward section of the hull, which could be jettisoned in emergencies. This forward section was situated in front of the wings, providing enhanced visibility over most TIE designs. The middle section of the hull contained the power generators, sensors, and targetting computers. The rear section contained the bomb bays and engine. The Scimitar was different from the TIE Bomber in that it had only a single ion engine - paired with two interlocked repuslorlift engines - to propel it. It was armed with two racks of eight concussion missiles and two laser cannons. Proton grenades and free-falling thermal detonators can also be carried for deployment via the bomb bays. Roughly 13.8 meters in length, the Scimitar bomber has been rated at speeds of 850 kilometers per hour in atmospheric conditions. By introducing thrust from the repulsorlift engines, speeds of 1,000 kilometers per hour can be sustained during bombing runs. Note that the Star Wars Databank indicates that the Scimitar could attain speeds of 1,150 kilometers per hour in atmosphere, and 1,250 kilometers per hour on bombing runs. The Scimitar was protected by additional hull plating and the introduction of shields. The Scimitar was manufactured by Seinar Fleet Systems for several years after Thrawn's death, but it was eventually phased out of production."

the Aggressor:

"this experimental variant of the Imperial TIE Fighter was derived from the TIE Advanced x1. The wings of the TIE Aggressor were bent at the front, but tapered down to a single panel at the rear. The rear deck of the TIE Advanced was reduced in width to save weight, but provided the ship with enhanced maneuverability. A pair of chin-mounted laser cannons complimented two missile launchers, and a gun turret was mounted at the rear, giving the TIE Aggressor more firepower than its predecessor. Military experts categorized the TIE Aggressor as neither a fighter nor a bomber, but rather something in between that could accomplish the mission profiles of either type of vessel."

the Razor:

Class:      Starfighter - Independent
Corporation:     Sienar Fleet Systems
Hyperdrive:     x1
Sublight:     98 MGLT
Weapon(s):     2xLaser cannon
2xIon cannon
1xProton torpedo launcher    
Length:     13.6 m
Hull (RU):     20
Shields (SBD):     38
Crew:     1
Passengers:     -
Cargo:     80 kg

I don't have anything special on this one.

the Preybird:

" a rare form of SoroSuub combat starship, the Preybird-class fighter was produced in extremely limited quantities. SoroSuub shut the project down after producing only a few production models. The smuggler Mazzic owned two of these ships. The design was eventually picked up by the remnants of the Empire under Moff Disra, who turned the plans over to Zothip and the Cavrilhu pirates. The Cavrilhu then began mass-producing the ships for Disra, who bypassed normal Imperial channels to fund the ships. Over time, the Preybird eventually replaced the TIE fighter, because it was cheaper to obtain them from pirates that from official Imperial channels. The twenty-meter-long Preybird had a long, central hull with a forward-situated cockpit. The wings were attached to the rear of the hull, rising up slightly before levelling off. A single laser cannon was mounted at the end of each wing, and the primary engines were located at the bend in the wings."

The R-41 Starchaser:

"an outdated form of starship, often found in pirate fleets. These insectile ships are sleek, 15-meter-long fighters armed with 2 laser cannons and 2 ion cannons, with minimal 30-SBD shields protecting a 15-RU hull."


All of this, except for the Razor, is from the Unofficial Encyclopedia from www.theforce.net
 
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  RE: Shatting Fate: General Wing Discussion
May 15, 2006 10:16:08 PM    View the profile of Hunter 
Yeah, I realized that as well, but I figured I'd just run with what Shaz and Art said. I normally find what I can about what I'm piloting... I just figured Shaz and Art meant for it to be understood in the story? If not, I can always just edit my first post to have some tid-bit about it being modified.
 
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