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Arturus
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  Shatting Fate: General Wing Discussion
April 30, 2006 3:34:58 PM    View the profile of Arturus 
Please use this area for any questions you have regarding the story, it's background information and how it is proceeding.  Also use this thread to coordinate action with the other squadrons.  Each squadron has a separate discussion area for internal coordination with this to be used for general coordination.

Thank you.

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"The way of war is a way of deception. When able, feign inability; when deploying troops, appear not to be. When near, appear far; when far, appear near. Lure with bait; strike with chaos. If the enemy is full, be prepared. If strong, avoid him. If he is angry, disconcert him. If he is weak, stir him to pride. If he is relaxed, harry him; if his men are harmonious, split them. Attack where he is unprepared; appear where you are unexpected. This is victory in warfare; it cannot be divulged in advance. Victory belongs to the side that scores most in the temple calculations before battle. Most spells victory; least spells defeat; none, surer defeat. I see it in this way, and the outcome is apparent." -- Sun Tzu

"Ultimate excellence lies not in winning every battle but in defeating the enemy without ever fighting." -- Sun Tzu
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  RE: Shatting Fate: General Wing Discussion
April 30, 2006 5:30:50 PM    View the profile of Than Sion 
I can't get onto that site you told us to look at, it says not found.
 
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  RE: Shatting Fate: General Wing Discussion
April 30, 2006 5:36:35 PM    View the profile of Arturus 
Sorry my mistake, link fixed.
 
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"The way of war is a way of deception. When able, feign inability; when deploying troops, appear not to be. When near, appear far; when far, appear near. Lure with bait; strike with chaos. If the enemy is full, be prepared. If strong, avoid him. If he is angry, disconcert him. If he is weak, stir him to pride. If he is relaxed, harry him; if his men are harmonious, split them. Attack where he is unprepared; appear where you are unexpected. This is victory in warfare; it cannot be divulged in advance. Victory belongs to the side that scores most in the temple calculations before battle. Most spells victory; least spells defeat; none, surer defeat. I see it in this way, and the outcome is apparent." -- Sun Tzu

"Ultimate excellence lies not in winning every battle but in defeating the enemy without ever fighting." -- Sun Tzu
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  RE: Shatting Fate: General Wing Discussion
May 1, 2006 3:32:50 PM    View the profile of templar 
A couple problems...

1. This isn't a problem really, more of a question: How come for every flight one person's name is listed twice?

2. Our second PO, Gemini, is dead. She died in our last mission.

Also, this isn't really a problem but again a question: How come we're are using WORSE fighters for such an important mission? I'm at school right now, so I can't check to make sure. but aren't our gunboats actually BETTER than these bombers? Our gunboats are faster, carry a bigger pay-load, and are equipped with hyper-drives.

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FM/LCR Templar/Aegis2/Phoenix/mSSD Atrus/DEF/VEN/VE/(=A=)
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  RE: Shatting Fate: General Wing Discussion
May 1, 2006 4:08:05 PM    View the profile of LoneWolf 
its more of a challenge that way thats why just be thankful their not making us fly z 95's and regular tie bombers.

On another note i thought Rath Thinner was declared Awol in Kaph?
 
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  RE: Shatting Fate: General Wing Discussion
May 1, 2006 4:27:43 PM    View the profile of Shazam 
As for the roster: that's still being figured out because I think it'll be changing pretty constnatly through the story- people will be joining squadrons at which point NPCs will be killed off.

Templar- The Roster is fixed, but the equipment stays the same.

Why use what we use?  Yes, it is more challenging, but is also more reasonable.  This plan that is created is really made out in about a day, so supplies were gathered rather quickly and allocated to what was thought to be most suitable.  You can't just send a fleet to one spot- everything else becomes exposed.  Plus, these will get the job done as well as everyone else does there job.  For instance- why the heck would we need hyperdrives if we have so many cruisers?  You could say- unless it got bad...  No offense, but the VE is still Imperial- they'll use the cheaper end if they think it'll get the job done so "just in case" won't cut it in this situation.  The plan isn't perfect right now, but it's shaping up pretty darn well, so you'll see.  Rock On.
 
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*Flash Was Here...*

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  RE: Shatting Fate: General Wing Discussion
May 1, 2006 5:39:45 PM    View the profile of templar 
Thanks Shazam for the explanation.
 
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  RE: Shatting Fate: General Wing Discussion
May 1, 2006 6:34:47 PM    View the profile of Willtconq 
i'm just happy that i get to fly my signature fighter ^^.
 
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  RE: Shatting Fate: General Wing Discussion
May 1, 2006 8:34:08 PM    View the profile of Arturus 
Templar, on the surface Gunboats might be better but consider this.  This mission (which will be posted shortly) is not a space mission entirely.  You will be performing ground support operations.  The Scimitar has a bomb bay for ground strikes making you extremely useful.  Also,read the website link I posted, your bombers are faster than Gunboats.
 
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"The way of war is a way of deception. When able, feign inability; when deploying troops, appear not to be. When near, appear far; when far, appear near. Lure with bait; strike with chaos. If the enemy is full, be prepared. If strong, avoid him. If he is angry, disconcert him. If he is weak, stir him to pride. If he is relaxed, harry him; if his men are harmonious, split them. Attack where he is unprepared; appear where you are unexpected. This is victory in warfare; it cannot be divulged in advance. Victory belongs to the side that scores most in the temple calculations before battle. Most spells victory; least spells defeat; none, surer defeat. I see it in this way, and the outcome is apparent." -- Sun Tzu

"Ultimate excellence lies not in winning every battle but in defeating the enemy without ever fighting." -- Sun Tzu
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  RE: Shatting Fate: General Wing Discussion
May 2, 2006 12:15:51 AM    View the profile of Gunnay 
Touche senor
 
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  RE: Shatting Fate: General Wing Discussion
May 2, 2006 2:01:45 PM    View the profile of Zharyn 
Any idea when all of the info will be posted?
 
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  RE: Shatting Fate: General Wing Discussion
May 2, 2006 4:12:19 PM    View the profile of Shazam 
Yep- that's Art's territory.  He's got those first couple post then I'll do some character and story creation so you guys start getting a feel for it.  Rock On.

(Btw, post that on the site and the story thread, Art- soon as you can: later.)
 
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  RE: Shatting Fate: General Wing Discussion
May 2, 2006 8:47:15 PM    View the profile of Arturus 
Yep, I lost two days cleaning the house for my grandparent's arrival.  I'm working to get back on schedule now.
 
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"The way of war is a way of deception. When able, feign inability; when deploying troops, appear not to be. When near, appear far; when far, appear near. Lure with bait; strike with chaos. If the enemy is full, be prepared. If strong, avoid him. If he is angry, disconcert him. If he is weak, stir him to pride. If he is relaxed, harry him; if his men are harmonious, split them. Attack where he is unprepared; appear where you are unexpected. This is victory in warfare; it cannot be divulged in advance. Victory belongs to the side that scores most in the temple calculations before battle. Most spells victory; least spells defeat; none, surer defeat. I see it in this way, and the outcome is apparent." -- Sun Tzu

"Ultimate excellence lies not in winning every battle but in defeating the enemy without ever fighting." -- Sun Tzu
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  RE: Shatting Fate: General Wing Discussion
May 3, 2006 8:55:08 AM    View the profile of Raigen 
This has probably been asked, but can I use my cloakshape...its faster.
 
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  RE: Shatting Fate: General Wing Discussion
May 3, 2006 9:00:53 AM    View the profile of templar 
Prepare for the ultimate beat down


*Laughs evilly*
 
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  RE: Shatting Fate: General Wing Discussion
May 3, 2006 9:37:28 AM    View the profile of Willtconq 
Raigen, no, everyone uses the fighter they are assigned. unless it's a modified version of the assigned fighter.
 
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  RE: Shatting Fate: General Wing Discussion
May 3, 2006 10:01:04 AM    View the profile of Arturus 
Most fighters already have some basic alterations.  Therefore, all are to use the assigned fighters.
 
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"The way of war is a way of deception. When able, feign inability; when deploying troops, appear not to be. When near, appear far; when far, appear near. Lure with bait; strike with chaos. If the enemy is full, be prepared. If strong, avoid him. If he is angry, disconcert him. If he is weak, stir him to pride. If he is relaxed, harry him; if his men are harmonious, split them. Attack where he is unprepared; appear where you are unexpected. This is victory in warfare; it cannot be divulged in advance. Victory belongs to the side that scores most in the temple calculations before battle. Most spells victory; least spells defeat; none, surer defeat. I see it in this way, and the outcome is apparent." -- Sun Tzu

"Ultimate excellence lies not in winning every battle but in defeating the enemy without ever fighting." -- Sun Tzu
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  RE: Shatting Fate: General Wing Discussion
May 3, 2006 12:15:57 AM    View the profile of Raigen 
*Raigen died a litle inside*
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  RE: Shatting Fate: General Wing Discussion
May 3, 2006 2:10:34 PM    View the profile of Zharyn 
Oh, come on, you get to fly bombers like the rest of Aegis :P
 
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  RE: Shatting Fate: General Wing Discussion
May 3, 2006 2:53:46 PM    View the profile of Raigen 
..........  it's nt the same......sigh
 
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  RE: Shatting Fate: General Wing Discussion
May 3, 2006 3:15:26 PM    View the profile of Zharyn 
Get over it :P If it's good enough for the Squadron, it's good enough for you.  Besides, does a cloakshape have a bomb bay with bombs that can demolish most things below it?
 
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  RE: Shatting Fate: General Wing Discussion
May 3, 2006 3:41:10 PM    View the profile of Raigen 
They have virtually no shields. For this mission, modified gunboats with 100kg bomb bays installed would work better. you'd still have 90 sublight speed and you'd would have 100 shield instead of 30. it would still be faster, stronger, and have more weapons. they would be better than the cloakshapes.

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  RE: Shatting Fate: General Wing Discussion
May 3, 2006 3:46:13 PM    View the profile of Zharyn 
Dude- we were assigned Scimitars and you need to capitalize on that instead of asking for better ships, because you are most likey not going to get them.  Take advantage of the situation instead of thinking about flying better craft- we got what got.  Not trying to quash you or anything, but sometimes we have to work with what we have. 
 
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  RE: Shatting Fate: General Wing Discussion
May 3, 2006 5:53:43 PM    View the profile of Willtconq 
if you want fly better fighters next time, Raigen, maybe you can buy the 36 fighters for everyone.
 
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  RE: Shatting Fate: General Wing Discussion
May 3, 2006 6:55:23 PM    View the profile of Zharyn 
I hate that saying- "Do you have enough for everybody?" 
 
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  RE: Shatting Fate: General Wing Discussion
May 3, 2006 7:17:13 PM    View the profile of templar 
Me to..but i have like 50k in money because in my entire time on this site I have NEVER bought ANYTHING...heh.

And Reigan cloak shapes probbaly wouldn't be that good for the role we're playing. We're basicly the Y-Wings of the VEN. Slow but very, veyr powerful. I think this is okay..
 
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  RE: Shatting Fate: General Wing Discussion
May 3, 2006 9:10:28 PM    View the profile of Trevor Evenson 
*wants to use his Y-wing*.....


It`s tempting to ask for a temporary transfer to Aegis just to fly bombers....

But then again......That would mean being with Raigen...And I`ve heard he smells funny....

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  RE: Shatting Fate: General Wing Discussion
May 3, 2006 9:19:18 PM    View the profile of Arturus 
Alright people, this is off topic.

Back on topic now, please post any questions you might have.  Take the time to really read what we are posting.  It is being posted in manageble chunks for a reason.
 
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"The way of war is a way of deception. When able, feign inability; when deploying troops, appear not to be. When near, appear far; when far, appear near. Lure with bait; strike with chaos. If the enemy is full, be prepared. If strong, avoid him. If he is angry, disconcert him. If he is weak, stir him to pride. If he is relaxed, harry him; if his men are harmonious, split them. Attack where he is unprepared; appear where you are unexpected. This is victory in warfare; it cannot be divulged in advance. Victory belongs to the side that scores most in the temple calculations before battle. Most spells victory; least spells defeat; none, surer defeat. I see it in this way, and the outcome is apparent." -- Sun Tzu

"Ultimate excellence lies not in winning every battle but in defeating the enemy without ever fighting." -- Sun Tzu
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  RE: Shatting Fate: General Wing Discussion
May 4, 2006 10:45:09 AM    View the profile of Raigen 
When do we get to post?
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  RE: Shatting Fate: General Wing Discussion
May 4, 2006 2:25:41 PM    View the profile of Arturus 
Final background post going up tonight.  After that either SLs or their XOs much make the first post for their squadron and then you're free to go except for when Shazam or I interject.
 
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"The way of war is a way of deception. When able, feign inability; when deploying troops, appear not to be. When near, appear far; when far, appear near. Lure with bait; strike with chaos. If the enemy is full, be prepared. If strong, avoid him. If he is angry, disconcert him. If he is weak, stir him to pride. If he is relaxed, harry him; if his men are harmonious, split them. Attack where he is unprepared; appear where you are unexpected. This is victory in warfare; it cannot be divulged in advance. Victory belongs to the side that scores most in the temple calculations before battle. Most spells victory; least spells defeat; none, surer defeat. I see it in this way, and the outcome is apparent." -- Sun Tzu

"Ultimate excellence lies not in winning every battle but in defeating the enemy without ever fighting." -- Sun Tzu
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