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Skarr
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  New ID Line Format
January 8, 2016 6:26:55 PM    View the profile of Skarr 
Can we perhaps put some thought into a new ID line format? I wanted to update my signature and realized that I both forgot/had no desire to use the old format, haha.
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  RE: New ID Line Format
January 9, 2016 9:27:21 PM    View the profile of Trykon 
This is another topic that's been discussed various places, at various times, but I think ID Lines comes squarely under Talon's jurisdiction, ultimately.  It's big-picture, overarching club organization stuff, larger than any one division.

What say you, Tal?
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  RE: New ID Line Format
January 12, 2016 11:42:34 AM    View the profile of Talon 
I kinda like the old setup for that. It made a certain kind of sense and you could figure out exactly where someone is based from their signature line in the middle of the story. As for forgetting how to set one up, they are in the respective divisions' academies.

Let's get some other input, people. What are your opinions?
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  RE: New ID Line Format
January 12, 2016 12:19:58 AM    View the profile of Sniping101 
Eh, 80% of the information in an ID line is pretty unimportant most of the time. A big pile of my ID line is completely useless structuring that, well, has never done anything. There's brigades and battalions in there and all that crazy stuff when, at least when I was in the STC, most of the time everyone was in the same platoon. All the rest of the information was universal. So maybe we could do something simplified that gave the important info in an easy and concise way. Dunno, I got so tired of trying to figure out ID lines that I never had one for Hond and Snipes Osk ID Line is mostly just an inside joke.
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  RE: New ID Line Format
January 12, 2016 1:50:46 PM    View the profile of Trykon 
History question: Did the ID Line concept grow out of clan tags, in multiplayer video games?  Just curious.  It has that acronym prefix feel to it.

I know some people find the ID Lines contain more information than is typically needed, Snipes, but I also understand the point Talon makes, that they're concise, comprehensive descriptions of a person's sort of role, within the club.  They help readers quickly identify a poster they don't know well, in a story thread.  One thing that occurs to me, though, is that a lot of the NHC and AHC members are considering writing multiple characters, as we move forward.  One character will match their OOC role, as is traditional hereabouts, but they'll have the option of writing a (likely lower-ranked) second POV, so they can more easily participate in stories.  Easier to jump into a dogfight when you aren't limited to the POV of the Chief of Naval Training, for example.  Should probably make sure all regular POV characters are afforded ID Lines (of whatever form is ultimately decided) in a member's signature.

As for opinions: Although I can't help but agree that the inclusion of "VE" at the end of every ID Line is redundant, at this point, I don't think the two letters are such a burden.  One thing that's always bugged me a bit, Talon, is the VEN/VEA acronyms: why isn't that SFC/STC?  In the VE, in-story, are our stormtroopers part of the Vast Empire's Army?
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  RE: New ID Line Format
January 12, 2016 2:40:06 PM    View the profile of Tetrarch 
Just on that last point, I'd admit to being confused myself.  From my understanding of canon the Army are a separate entity while the Stormtroopers fill the role of marines in our world, naval infantry. The army get the big operations while the stormtroopers are rapid deployment, used for boarding actions, raids e.t.c. I understand VE canon is a bit different too so that might just be it.
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  RE: New ID Line Format
January 12, 2016 2:59:24 PM    View the profile of Drac 
I agree with both of you guys on that point. The division segment of the ID lines could do with some updating. I'd suggest STC/SFC/VEN as the options (plus DJO, etc where applicable). The lines are blurry regarding SFC vs VEN, of course, but for characters like Drac, Trick, Slasher, and Stormz SFC doesn't make much sense- none of those toons fly starfighters except on very rare occasions.

In the navy, the ID lines do pretty regularly differ among personnel all the way up to the Fleet level, though at present we're not quite as spread out. The STC has a few more middle layers, but I don't know at what point those become universal for STC members.

To expand on what Trick said regarding secondary POV characters- my understanding of it, at least, is that the opportunity to do so includes writing in either division. That would make the division sections of the ID lines relevant for anyone who runs multiple toons.

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  RE: New ID Line Format
January 12, 2016 6:55:14 PM    View the profile of Talon 
I like the fact that they are fully detailed to show where you belong. Even the VE at the end marks that you are a part of the fleet known as the Vast Empire.

I had a thought about multiple characters. Why not have a list of your characters in your ComNet signature that each name links to their wiki page. You could even build an ID line for them based off of how they would fit into the VE, posted on the wiki.
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  RE: New ID Line Format
January 12, 2016 7:21:50 PM    View the profile of Trykon 
That's basically exactly what we ended up going with, over at the EE: multiple ID Lines in the forum signature, linking back to wiki pages, so everyone could keep the various characters straight.  Helpful for folks who have multiple OOC roles in the club, too, regardless of whether or not they choose to roll more than one character.  My present (outdated) ID Line is a good example: my role as CNO was largely administrative, while the main way I was entering stories was in my capacity as a ship captain.  Having both indicated in my sig was hopefully useful, for people following along.

I agree with you, Talon: despite the learning curve involved, I like that the ID Line system is detailed and complete, and I think there's utility in using it.  I was more wondering if re-examining it now might pay dividends on settling minor points of order, like the Stormtrooper-versus-Army question.
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  RE: New ID Line Format
January 13, 2016 12:41:29 AM    View the profile of Talon 
VEA is still correct. The STC is more of a general statement of what part of the Imperial forces they belong to.
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