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  The Role of Gaming
December 18, 2015 6:46:26 AM    View the profile of Japheth 
So, the topic says it all - what, if any, role will gaming play in the club?

In the distant past, gaming was an active part of the VE, but times have certainly changed, and so has the focus of the club. The role play of writing now overwhelmingly dominates, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. While gaming attracted a lot of new members (myself included, for some X-Wing vs TIE Fighter action), the gaming selection isn't what it used to be - which is to say, its different and/or quite old.

I started the Marine Corps as a failed attempt to organize VE members for the purpose of playing SW: The Old Republic. Ultimately, we didn't really get enough people active, or recruit successfully enough in-game, to get anything of note done. I stopped playing the game close to a year ago (except a little on and off last summer).

Ordinarily, I'd move to entirely shut down the Marine Corps, except that I don't think it is currently possible to entirely remove a division from the VE's roster structure. I therefor suggest that it be mothballed and all current members set to retired status (since I'm also fairly sure it isn't currently possible to actually remove people from divisions). It was a worthwhile experiment, but ultimately not a successful one, in my opinion.
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  RE: The Role of Gaming
December 18, 2015 7:56:31 AM    View the profile of Aeos 
Well, I suspect there is going to be a whole revitalisation of the gaming potential of SW, if not already. It's worthwhile to keep our options open for the future. 

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  RE: The Role of Gaming
December 18, 2015 8:57:45 AM    View the profile of Drac 
Agreed on both counts. I've been mulling over much the same opinion myself. Since the limitations that Japheth mentioned exist (or at least seem to) the measures he's suggesting would do nicely to clean the slate there and make any future revitalization of the gaming side of the club just that much less work-intensive.

In practical terms of approving that, I believe you're still the head of the VEMC, Japheth, with Stormz as XO... and there're only six members on the "active" roster for it anyway. There's little reason for you to not just go ahead and do that if you wish. And if Stormz agrees, then it's at least half the division in agreement on it...and 2/3 of the other half are folks I don't think we'll ever see again anyway.

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  RE: The Role of Gaming
December 18, 2015 9:12:14 AM    View the profile of Trykon 
Everything in this thread so far makes sense.

Let's clean slate this whole place, as much as possible.  We can re-activate and un-archive things, if/when we need them.  In the meantime, it's basically clutter.
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  RE: The Role of Gaming
December 18, 2015 1:17:42 PM    View the profile of Havock 
I think removing it is a positive idea for now. I think just an area you can announce interest in a game and possibly organizing groups to play rather than a whole separate division is the way to go for now.
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  RE: The Role of Gaming
December 18, 2015 3:30:11 PM    View the profile of StOrMz 
Whilst it saddens me, I agree.

P.S. Japh, if you haven't played through the Knights of the Fallen Empire....I HIGHLY suggest you resub for a month and check it out. Most definitely worth your time, as it's on par with the best story lines I've ever seen.
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  RE: The Role of Gaming
December 18, 2015 3:55:26 PM    View the profile of StarFruit 
Keeping the gaming off the table for the club right now is a good idea. We are just getting started again and people are still making their way back in a slow trickle. Right now, we focus on rebuilding, cleaning up, and getting interest back in the base of the club. When interest for gaming starts showing its head then we just have a place for people to be like "Yo ya wanna game or make a clan or go bust some scrubs?". No separate division, as Hav said, but somewhere to just pick up a group and go in the interests are aligned.

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  RE: The Role of Gaming
December 18, 2015 4:46:14 PM    View the profile of Mongrel 
Yeah, mothballs. Most of us know each other and if we have the same games and similar schedules, we'll play together anyway.

Sure, we have Battlefront now, which I'm going to assume is as bad as the other two were, but really there's not a ton in the Star Wars gaming department right now anyway.
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  RE: The Role of Gaming
December 18, 2015 5:42:16 PM    View the profile of Japheth 
StOrMz wrote:Whilst it saddens me, I agree.

P.S. Japh, if you haven't played through the Knights of the Fallen Empire....I HIGHLY suggest you resub for a month and check it out. Most definitely worth your time, as it's on par with the best story lines I've ever seen.

I've heard that. My main problem currently is actually monetary. Maybe I'll get a bit of cash for Christmas I can use toward gaming, but for the most part, I have to survive off my pay as a TA (and I'm not being paid for a month since school is out :P).

In general, gaming before the VEMC was done on a pretty ad hoc basis. Nominally the Army played things like JK2, and other FPS type games and the Navy played the flight sims, but really people played both whenever there were opportunities to do so. The VEMC was intended to provide an organized back-end specifically for a SWTOR guild, except we never really got it off the ground enough to function. Oh well.
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  RE: The Role of Gaming
December 18, 2015 6:37:13 PM    View the profile of StOrMz 
SWTOR is F2P as well, you don't get the XP bonus, but it's still fun!

As to your other part, yeah, I originally joined because of the VE group that played JK and XvT. I would love to get a group together for Star Citizen, but it doesn't warrant it's own division until there's like 20-30 active people in my opinion.
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December 19, 2015 4:23:39 PM    View the profile of Drac 
I'm awaiting Star Citizen as well. Looks like it will be incredible...IF they can realize the vision for it. For now, Elite Dangerous looks really cool.

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December 19, 2015 10:09:56 PM    View the profile of StOrMz 
I backed for it a year ago and follow it avidly.

Alpha 2.0 is amazing and they've got a lot coming out in the near future to make it even better.
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December 19, 2015 10:23:02 PM    View the profile of Gurlanin 
Don't get me started on Star Citizen. I have spent far far far too much money backing that game XD It's going to be amazing.
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December 20, 2015 12:21:11 AM    View the profile of Trykon 
I finally got Elite: Dangerous like a week ago!  I'm super excited to check it out next week, when I get back home!
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December 20, 2015 9:32:57 AM    View the profile of Mongrel 
I refuse to participate in the shit show that is Star Citizen. Elite: Dangerous looks interesting and I may pick it up next time I have money.

I love how in Star Citizen you can pay 80+ dollars for a ship in a game that doesn't, and probably won't ever, exist.
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December 20, 2015 10:03:30 AM    View the profile of Gurlanin 
Come on, Mongrel, don't start. You're entitled to your opinion, but the fact remains that a lot of people who are interested in VE are also interested in Star Citizen. They all run in similar circles.
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December 20, 2015 12:38:39 AM    View the profile of Gurlanin 
Just realised how aggressive that sounds. Sorry Snipes, I didn't mean to come across so strong. We're far enough off topic as it is, lol.
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December 22, 2015 2:28:20 AM    View the profile of Mongrel 
All good, I just have a very dismissive, if not angry, opinions towards some of Star Citizen's monetization methods.
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December 26, 2015 10:06:17 PM    View the profile of Valthir 
It's probably good to at least have a general thread for gaming discussion. I've never really enjoyed focusing solely on Star Wars games (although I see where the idea behind doing that lies) when there were so many other games to enjoy, play, and discuss.

So maybe a thread to at least get some discussion off the ground. I don't see the need in having a completely separate area right now, but at least a thread.
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December 26, 2015 10:25:18 PM    View the profile of Trykon 
Be the change you want to see in the world, Val.  Start a thread!
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